Geraldo: ‘The hoodie is as much responsible for Trayvon’s death as Zimmerman

I dont know anyone who would even disagree with that

problem is nobody can figure out how you can follow someone and NOT be the aggressor

 

Bogus.

Someone wearing a hoodie doesn't automatically make one look threatening any more than someone with a Geraldo style mustache makes them look like a dooshbag.

 

Police follow people all the time. We once followed a drunk driver around with 911 the cell phone until the police got there. Store owners sometimes pursue thieves. Is it really inconceivable that a neighborhood watch guy followed a guy?

 

Following a guy no problem. Getting out of your car and confronting him while you are armed which is against Neighborhood watch policy, no.

The case was poorly handled by the police department and this is the reason why we have this uproar. If they had done a complete investigation they would have discovered many of the facts that have become uncovered. I'm shocked they let him go home with the clothes and weapon until a full investigation had been done. You are supposed to treat every homicide as a murder, you let the complete facts decide whether or not a crime has been committed. They just did such a (*)(*)(*)(*) poor job that it leaves room for a lot of reasonable doubt to Zimmerman's story and that needs to be looked over in a trial.

There are people who wrongly want to see the guy hanged or whatever but most just want the justice process to at least begin.

 

police.....and if a store owner chase a thief down you dont get to kill him out of fear either.

 

poor analogy, as that mustache just screams (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bag

 

Is that what happened? What is your evidence? If it is, then fine. Why not wait until you know before drawing a conclusion?

How do you know it was poorly handled? Did they lie about something?

And you are among the former.

 

The fact that the calls from 911 and Martin's GF confirm that Zimmerman initiated contact, which points the glaring hole in Zimmerman's story that he was attacked out of nowhere.

 

Initiated contact? It's not a crime to initiate contact. It's a crime to attack. Yes, there may indeed have been an attack on Zimmerman's part. We just don't know. I want there to be an investigation.

 

It was raining when Martin was shot.

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Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing kidding me? He was walking in the (*)(*)(*)(*) rain and wearing his hood. It just goes to show how far (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) bags will go to defend a guy who was specifically told to leave the kid alone and wait for the cops.

 

So does everyone, so why are people so against there even being an investigation?? Do people not understand the guy was free for almost a month before media attention even brought light to this case?

 

Not to most but that was his point, there are idiots out there, and we found one but it cost a life to point him out.

 

Had the retard Zimmerman listened to the operator, the cop would have stopped the kid, found skittles, and called zimmerman a dumb-ass.

Zimmerman decided to be a vigilante. Some of his past history is starting to come up that he's been involved with domestic violence, and what happened then? He blamed the woman he was with at the time.

I am starting to think this Zimmerman is nothing but a punk who hits women and picks on people smaller than him. Because the kid was obviously no physical threat.

It wasn't the gun that killed this kid, and it wasn't the defend yourself legislation, it was Zimmerman's poor decision to continue to follow the kid despite the requests of the 911 operator to leave it to the cops.

At a minimum, he should be charged with manslaughter for gunning down a defenseless kid.

I'm a firm believer in having personal defense, and have been working on getting my CCW permit in Ohio for myself and my wife.

But this wasn't defense, this makes anyone who carries a weapon for personal defense look barbaric when they defend this retard.

 

What I find appalling is everyone assuming on here that this guy deserves to go free because he was defending himself. What about Martin? Perhaps he felt he was defending himself against an unknown male following him in the middle of night. So because he possibly felt he needed to defend himself he deserves to die? Why?

 

Far from it. I don't assume he was innocent. I just want more facts. There needs to be an investigation and a trial. No question about it.

 

No one disagrees.

No evidence for this at all. My suspicion is he overstepped and tried to detain the kid to make sure he didn't get away. Then he got beat on, and shot him. He does deserve to go to jail if this happened.

 

I said to my hubby the other night, the police ought to charge Zimmerman.

Then I read this. It's written by my friend Minty on another site...

Now I don't know what to think. What a mess.

 

I don't really know much about this case but I will say this: this 'Geraldo' joker, does he actually believe that the clothes are "as much responsible" for the killing, as the actual killer was? That's just INSANELY stupid. He is literally out of his mind if he really believes that. Sure, dressing like a thug might not be a good idea, and maybe he should bear SOME of the responsibility, but the killer pulled the trigger. NOTHING is "as much" responsible as that.

Simples.

 

I know that if "Minty" is friend of Trintity's, I don't believe a word he/she/it said.

 

Does the kid have a right to defend himself against someone he feels threatened against and does Zimmerman have the right to use deadly force? Also there where stories early of police leading witnesses but that may be unfounded.

Also I take exception to people saying the way the victim was dressed lead to his death or profiling, on the same token does a woman who dressed somewhat provocatively asking to be raped? She has just as much right to wear what ever she wants, the whole appearance thing doesn't hold any water IMO.

 

Yo, I hail from Detroit originally and work for a criminal firm now...so allow this soccer mom to weigh in with some "street" knowledge.

1) People wear ski masks to commit crimes.
2) People generally speaking use guns, as well
3) No self-respecting criminal would commit a crime and then attempt to beat someone bigger than them rather than shoot them UNLESS they were pistol whipping them with the gun, cuz like...you just make them madder, mmmkay

Hoodies are a style that EVERYONE has latched on to because hoodies are awesome. Wearing a hoodie no more makes you look like a criminal these days than a baseball hat fools people into thinking you pitch for the Yankees. It is THAT proliferated across the country.

If you think that you certainly don't get out much.

I dare say that a black kid who jumped the gate of a gated, mostly white community to cut through probably raised alarms to this dude without said hoodie. He was obviously trespassing, but not necessarily a gangster.

Geraldo is a s--t stirrer and a fool.

 

Interesting. Thanks for posting. Still don't think hoodies are responsible, tho. I've got a stash of them in all colors.