Ok. GOP what is your solution to the healthcare crisis in the US? Do nothing?

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  1. BuckNaked

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    To keep competition to a minimum. The big pharmaceuticals were the one's who wrote the legislation to begin with. Why would they do such a thing to themselves? Because the best government corporate money can buy, enacted the legislation but also gave tax breaks/loopholes, grants, and exemptions to the big boys to offset the legislation/regulations.
     
    Nothing will be fixed if you continue to elect the best government corporate money can buy/AKA the two party scam.
     
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    It can take more than TWENTY YEARS to go from drug or medical services concept to making it available to the public.

    and you want companies to only profit for TEN YEARS.!!!

    Do you have any idea what will happen in those 10 years? The drugs and medical services that a company can profit on will have there prices hiked many times over so a company can make their profit within the 10 year window.

    And if a company can't ship jobs offshore what do you expect them to do?

    Simply make less money?
     
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    Ohhh, the fallacies!

    First, it wasn't necessarily the GOP that caused the current depression. Most of the governmental policies that caused the housing bubble were of democratic origin.

    You have no knowledge that the market system is a "complete farce." Since there is no market system currently in existence outside the black market (which is doing just fine).

    The GOP has nothing since it's the same failed, corrupt fascist system as the democrats.
     
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    ROMNEY DID NOT SAY THAT.

    HE did say he was going to get the Federal government off the backs of The American people and let the principles that created this Nation FLOURISH once again.
    How YOU choose to participate is up to you..the individual..

    Once the FEDERAL government is back to where they are protecting equally ...but not regulating for political gain..this economy will rebound and grow again.

    There is a HUGE difference of opinion..and the current one aint working.
     
  5. Montoya

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    Yes pretty much. No way around it.
     
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    BestViewedWithCable Well-Known Member

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    Step 1: Boot out all illegals and create jobs building a wall.
     
  7. BuckNaked

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    Why even suggest it? The people you will be voting for in Nov are completely against it.
     
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    Do you have a case in mind where a person died rather than going to the ER, where they will be treated and if they are poor they will be referred to a doctor that will help them?

    Fifteen years ago at a low point in my brother's financial life he got into a drunken brawl and ended up run down by a car and his left ear was ripped off and his shoulder blade was broken. He was taken to the ER in San Antonio where his ear was repaired by a very talented plastic surgeon and he was given a location where a clinic would do the follow up treatment. He went to the clinic once a week, then once a month and had a good outcome.

    In light of your misunderstanding of the difference between no insurance and no healthcare coverage - which the poorest people in the country have - you make a fool of yourself and show your black heart and hatred for people who want you to work and provided for yourself as best you can.
    To do that would step on the 10th A. that gives the states the right to regulate insurance in their state.

    I agree. where I live we have a local clinic that anyone can go to for what I would call urgent care.

    I have sent my plan to the AMA, several Senators with no response. My plan eliminates health insurance as we know it. Every citizen would be treated equally with a few acceptations; the president, active duty military, and some public service employees. The Congress would stand in the same line as the rest of us.

    Doctors would be paid in accordance with procedures preformed, and a respect of peers and patient satisfaction bonus would be the bulk of the health care provider's pay.
    There would be no malpractice insurance because an new malpractice court would mediate complaints of malpractice. In the worst cases the health care provider could be fined, lose his license and go to jail. Further the victim would receive compensation from the health care fund, there by encouraging all healthcare providers to make sure accidents and negligence is kept to a minimum.

    Paying all health care providers from a finite fund the health care provider community would not wrap a small cut with ten feet of bandages like they do now. the HCPs would do everything that the patient needs but they wouldn't order useless tests for the sake of getting a kickback from the MRI operators.

    The plan would require a tax and co-pay based on income and life style.
     
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    There are plans out there. Don't try to sit there and act like there is nothing. stop listening to the media so much.
     
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    Yes, but the difference is, I actually wanna solve the healthcare crisis....
     
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    ...and so much for everybody being treated equally. :rolleyes:
     
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    Well that is one of about ten major things that have screwed it up so far, but electing democrats and republicans are #1 & #2 though.

    Nothing will change as long as a plutocracy rules, and the best government corporate money can buy continues their duties to the rich/elites.
     
  13. Claude C

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    Why not pay Taiwan xdollars and let them bring their people and system here? GOPukes seem to just love outsourcing. Just get Taiwan to do the whole thing. Use our facilities and their people and systems.
     
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    That's right, Claude. The only liberal solution: raise taxes and (*)(*)(*)(*) away the money. Way to go, Claude. And, Claude, you get six kudos from Obama for civil discourse.
     
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    Allow health providers, and health insurance providers freedom of contract.
    Health insurance should be for catastrophic illnesses or injuries.
    If people can afford a $100 pair of Nikes than they can afford a checkup at a doctors office.
     
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    It'd be better if voluntary anti-dysgenics/eugenics were wide spread (as in, not forcing people to not breed, but having the realistic and legal option of inserting/deleting/repairing genes selectively, on eggs and sperm).
     
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    Have you seen GATTACA? A very possible outcome of that type of system. A whole new kind of bigotry.
     
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    So you want to violently eliminate people's right to voluntarily use gene testing companies to select genes to insert/delete/modify on eggs and/or sperm?
     
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    repubs said a health care bill should take years to get right, I say they need to get started, if it's better then what we have now, we can swap them

    but I think it would be much easier to fix what we have now, add a public option, ect...
     
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    What healthcare crisis. Got an emergency go to the emergency room. Don't have an emergency, stop wasting emergency room personals time.

    De-regulate the insurance industry so I can buy insurance across state lines. Allow me to buy cheap prescription medication online from Canada instead of the over priced local (*)(*)(*)(*). And finally kick out the freeloading illegal aliens.
     
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    The best government corporate money can buy will not allow it (AKA two party scam).



    Once again the best government corporate money can buy created the market where foreign companies get a break on medicine while the USA pays the highest rate on the planet to cover the losses of selling their product to other countries for a discount rate. Kinda defeat the purpose wouldn't it??



    You really just don't get it do you? The best government corporate money can buy will not allow it. You want these things yet you vote for 1/2 of the best government that corporate money can buy that keep these policies alive. It's basically your fault these things exist, if you vote the party line in this bogus two party scheme/scam.
     
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    You must be on medicare, or have a really good insurance plan.
     
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    It's called being young with a false sense of invincibility.
     
    Either that or he’s a corporate elite/trust fund baby and doesn’t understand what it is like to actually have to earn your own way, or actually have to live on a pay check.
     
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    Have you ever really seen "Government Health Care" and how it is handled?

    Trust me, if people have "millions and billions", they will not be trying to use this. I have suffered through Government Health Care for almost 30 years, and trust me, it absolutely sucks.

    Because whenever I hear people talk about it, I see in my mind the VA. The "Millionairs" will not be standing in line for this, they will pay for their own health care, even if they have to go to another country to get it.

    Like many that come here to the US now for this very reason.
     
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    OK, and who then is going to pay the R&D cost for new drugs and treatments?

    Like any business, making medical treatments and drugs is expensive. And they were not developed over night. We probably see 1 successfull drug released out of every 100 that are researched. And all that costs money.
     

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