mainline Protestantism gone from Christianity?

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Is mainline Protestentism gone from Christianity?

  1. no - mainline Christianity is not Christian

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  2. yes - mainline Christianity is certainly Christian

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  3. undecided

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    If the Mormons do believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the Begotten Son of God, the Saviour then they are Christians.
     
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    From what I have read they do, also they believe in the laying on of hads, babtism, and the remission of sins, but they do not believe in the trinity.
     
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    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    IMO this is how to spread it out:

    Catholic is 100% Christian
    Protestant is 80% Christian
    Mormons is 50% Christian

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    Well, Rick is a Roman Catholic, so of course he's going to at least quietly bash Protestantism. I'm hard-pressed to find any Christian denomination that is largely biblical with little left for dispute. As a student of the Bible, I find that Catholicism follows dogma and man-made statutes more than biblical mandate. A few Protestant denominations do this as well, such as LDS and Jehovah's Witnesses. These comments are not meant to offend; they are merely facts if one is willing to do the research and seek the truth.
     
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    But the Church compiled the Bible to stop heresy. The Church and its traditions and doctrines came before the Bible. Sola Sriptura is kind of like the tail wagging the dog. The Bible is divinely inspired and is the true guide for the Christian faith. But it can be misinterpreted and it is not completely literal. That is why tradition and the Church Fathers are so important.
     
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    Basically they compiled the New Testament and (apart from that peculiar document Revelations, whose anti-Roman meaning is lost to us) did it well. The problem is their acceptance of the old tribal Palestinian scriptures, whose inheritors wisely moved on to Christianity and Islam.
     
  8. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Rick Santorium bashing of Protestantism is mainly political nothing to do with religion IMO.

    The Catholic church trace it's roots to Apostolic succession, to St. Peter just like the Coptic Christian church trace their Apostolic lineage to St. Mark. Both churches possess the complete Books of the Old and New Testament and have dedicated individuals that spend their whole life studying it and interpreting it those individuals are technically married to the church and to God only, they have gave up all their earthly families, friends and possession to devote their body and spirit in studying, understanding and researching the Words of God as written in the Holy Bible.

    The dogmas are define and explored from the Bible with one purpose only to prevent the mis-interpretation of the Bible that has seen an increase in the early 2nd century especially after all the Apostles and 1st generation Christians have passed away. Before that all Christians were united with the Bible especially the identity, nature and deity of Jesus Christ, thousands of Christians died for that, they were burn at the stake, crucified, fed to wild beast and they did not fought back because they accept and believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

    Majority of anti Catholics will never cover want to cover or accept that all the Apostles including the 1st generation Christians such as St. Paul, Luke etc. all are in unison in the deity of Jesus Christ.

    It will be the succeeding generations that will start to question and change the nature of Jesus Christ and deny the historical fact that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified because he refuse to deny he is not God, he was accuse of blasphemy.

    Protestant main concern are the adoration and praying to Saints and Mary, Purgatory and what they term as sola scriptura in other words they only accept what is written in the Bible. And yet, they do accept the Trinity, the Trinity is not written but is imply many times in the Bible and the Catholic church spend years trying to understand why God has mention many times the Holy Spirit and Son of God until finally it is understood and define to mean that God is One with Three nature and Protestant accept that.

    Praying to saints and Mary for intercession; Protestant don not believe this and yet they themselves will always ask their followers to pray for their sick relatives and friends in other words to intercede in their behalf.

    Protestant do not believe in purgatory and yet they believe that not all souls will immediately go to heaven or hell that they will be judge according to the degree of their sins, they don't have an answer how that is done where does the soul of a less sinner goes?

    Of all the heretical denomination or sects Islam, Mormon and LDS are the worse because they openly deny the very nature of Jesus Christ and they have change the entire story and history to distort and corrupt the very essence of the Bible.
     
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    Yep, I'm agree with Santorum, the mainstream Christianity is indeed far away from God. Only very few small churches still follow the Commandments of God.
     
  10. WanRen

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    The Catholic church has remain united with the Bible for thousand of years, while Protestant church is so fragmented with thousands of denomination all having their own interpretation of the Bible, that is how shamble the Protestant church is. Unfortunately, R. Santorum forget that there are more protestant then there are catholic voters, by saying what he said will only alienate Protestant voters against him.
     
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    First, you need to correct your question because your parentheticals are reversed, so I guarantee some people chose unintended answers. If christianity is "gone" then yes, it is not "christian" anymore, but if you disagree with Santorum, then no it is not gone but remains.

    Anyway, as far as his opinions are from mine, I can't help but think he's correct on this one---most christianity does almost nothing to imitate "christ", which is what the word is supposed to mean. He went around helping people, hanging out with lowlifes, and lambasting the religious leadership. I rarely see "christians" doing this.
     
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    I think Santorum is creepy.. and his wife appears to be beaten down mentally.

    I always get tickled with Christians who think they are holier than thou or have the only right interpretation of scripture.

    That must have been going on since the time of Christ.
     
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    Christianity is in decline throughout the world, not just Protestantism. People are throwing off the shackles of religion and embracing humanism, atheism and agnosticism.
     
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    It's okay if Christianity is in decline, just like back then when there was only Noah and his family who were saved because they were the only "Christians" while many others who did not believe in the Christian God perish in the great floods, same will happen again. That is why it is not easy to be a good Christian it is easier to be a none Christian.:pray:
     
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    unfortionatly the loss of faith is a natural progression towards Christs return. The world will be at its darkest before the dawn of the new age.
     
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    There will be no need for Christ to return if the world is in order where majority accepts and worship Jesus Christ. The only reason Jesus Christ will return and the world will end is when 90% of the population has turn away from Jesus Christ.

    The combination of Muslims, Mormons, and other anti Christ religions accounts already about 55%, Hindus, Buddhism and other none Abrahamic religions reserve some exemptions because they do not teach anti Christ compare to Islam, Mormons and other so called Christians who openly teaches do not worship Jesus Christ and deny his deity.
     
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    I disagree it is pretty much preordained that he will return. I do not believe that there is any mention of a percentage of believers in any scripture. If there is please show me so I may read it. I am always interested in such things.
     
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    Yes, it is preordained Jesus will no doubt return, but Jesus return will depend on two conditions,these conditions were not exactly said word by word or mention but were implied:
    1. The world has fully accepted him (90%), his return will not be about the end of the world but about the final transformation of the world that we know it to become an earthly paradise a glorious return of Jesus Christ finally revealing to all who is God.

    2. The world has rejected him 90%+, under this condition, Jesus Christ return will mark the end of this world and the final battle between good and evil or the anti Christ and the followers of Christ, both angels and men will be part of this last battle the battle that was fought back then between Lucifer and his rebel angels against God's arch angels led by Gabriel and Michael will continue and decided, the world will be destroy and a new earth will begin just like what happen in Noah's time.

    The Bible have talk about the coming of Jesus Christ, why we must worship Him, and why God reveal Himself through Jesus Christ.

     

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