Why does the Left WANT the Trayvan case to be racism?

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  1. Ex-lib

    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Left accuses the Right of wanting the unemployment rate to stay bad, and this Trayvon thing is the same sort of situation.

    Look at the Leftists on this forum. They're not just saying that racism was involved. The tenor of the WAY THE ARGUE makes it plain that they HOPE racism was involved.

    Now I know that they don't really want there to be racism anywhere, but Liberalism drives them to this point where they actually are feeling in their gut "I hope there was racism here, so I can prove it and beat the Republicans".

    That's pretty sick.

    Same with Republicans. But I don't think it's as bad with Republicans.
     
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    Without 'racism' or the accusation of racism...the left is 'speechless'.
     
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    I'm not speechless.

    Men with guns should not shoot at people without guns, then have the opportunity to claim they did so as a means of self defence.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But that has NOTHING to do with racism.

    Plus, you're wrong. In some situations, you might HAVE to shoot someone in self-defense, even if they aren't potentially killing you with a gun. A gun isn't the only way to kill (or severely injure) someone. Duh.

    Why do Leftists like you even bother to argue when your argument is ridiculous?
     
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    When Zimmerman has his entire history scrutinized by a legal team, we'll find out if it was racially tinged in his mind or not.

    But this case won't turn on race, one way ot the other. The laws will set this case in stone:

    No Conceal Carry Laws, Castle Doctrines, or Stand your Ground laws make it legal and acceptable behavior for a person to chase after people you THINK MIGHT BE up to no good. Furthermore, it is not then somehow legal - upon contact with them - to initiate hostile confrontational activity upon them. Additionally, when your illegal actions blow up in your face and you're about to get/or are in the process of getting your ass beat for illegally interfering in someones business and/or threatening them, there isn't any language in any gun law that says no problem just go ahead and kill the person.
     
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    Because I'm not an American, don't need a gun to defend myself and in 71 years of living in the UK and Canada have never even been threatened by anyone. I guess it's the environment that's the problem with all Americans believing they are macho when it's nothing of the sort.

    It is however an unstable environment where even if crime were on an even par with any other western country, the chances of living through a violent confrontation outside of the US are far greater.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And how nice it would be to know if any of that stuff you just stated is actually what happened or not.
    But regardless, we were talking about the RACIAL aspect when you became distracted with another aspect.
     
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    "Why does the Left WANT the Trayvan case to be racism?"

    The answer to your question is pretty obvious. The left fuels itself on class and racial strife. They need to mobilize the black community over something - anything. They need them votes! It would be interesting if the black community could ever objectively analyze just how effective the left's divisive and inflammatory class and racial tactics have been in improving their condition. Heh - fat chance!

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    The lefts outcries are a bit ridiculous.

    They seem to making it a race issue and a gun control issue. I love the use of "... the shoot first ask questions later law..." comments. Pure ignorance.
     
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    The Left is composed of the "gimmme" generation and it's sad to say that a big part of them are minorities so it plays into Obama's agenda.:confused:
     
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    Game, set, match. You hit the nail right on the head.
     
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    I don't see where racism comes into it.

    But it does seem to me that it's the right-wingers that keep bringing up race on this issue (and a lot of others). But then, each side always thinks it's the other side.

    I do perceive racism in the way that right-wingers try to justify the shooting by saying that it was because the kid was scary-looking or something. There's this sort of, "Well, of COURSE you shoot a BLACK teenager if he's in a neighborhood where you aren't used to black people!" kind of theme running through a lot of the right-wing excuses.

    And then there was that whole "This proves the lesson: Don't mess with whitey!" thread.

    This issue has caused me to rethink my stance on gun control. I've always felt that the second amendment was very important, that guns are a necessary tool of survival in lots of America still, and that the right for people to be dangerous to each other is an important part of independence.

    But if they're going to go shooting every teenager that strikes them as scary, and feel that it's perfectly justified ...? Can people really be trusted with guns?

    I'm having trouble reconciling this.
     
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    "Why does the Left WANT the Trayvan case to be racism?"

    Answer:
    To deflect public attention from Obama's horrendous record.

    A red herring all the way.
     
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    I agree that the far left seems to want political opportunity here to try and discredit republicans, and the lower class ones might just want a reason to be wild, deep down.

    "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin..."
    good point obama!
     
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    The fact that freedom can be abused is no reason to take it away from the general population.
     

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