Neozionists prepare for victims' outrage.

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    Another person that doesn't understand what fascism means. Sigh.
     
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    Spoken like a untrue expert.
     
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    Paxtons definition is apt.
     
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    Are there any other truths you are in denial of.....AGW perhaps, or maybe the moon landings?
     
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    In other words, expand the definition to anything you want it to cover. Guess that means it has no definition so you are just trying to use it as an epithet without meaning.
     
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    Paxton's definition is consistent with Israel.
     
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    Sorry but even Paxton would not agree with you:

    If anything, it applies to Israel's enemies.
     
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    Israel's 'enemies' are the very people they are oppressing. So you are wrong.
     
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    Oppressing by trying to keep them from shooting rockets into their country and killing them?
     
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    The reason they fire rockets is due to the said oppression. It's called cause and effect.
     
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    Um. Seems to me that the opposition wants to wipe Israel off the map which has always been the goal. Even when they capitulate, the rockets keep coming. There is no agreement that the enemies of Israel will ever accept. You probably don't believe they should have a chance to live either.
     
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    The Hamas Charter is an irrelevant 24 year old document. The propaganda doesn't work anymore. This is 2012.

    The rockettes rarely kill anybody. Israeli's have more chance of being run over by car then being killed by a rockette. Check out comparable death rates of Israeli's killed by rockettes against those the Zionist fascists have killed, and then get back to me.
     
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    LOL, so it is OK to shoot rockets because they are not as accurate as you think they should be. Wow. Guess building those concrete desks for their children is just silly nonsense then eh?
     
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    No occupation = No resistance to occupation. It's not complicated. Homemade rockettes firing into mainly wasteland is no match for a high-tech militarized fascist entity backed to the teeth by the US....All rational folks understand this, it's only Zionist boot-lickers and their apologists who don't.
     
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    You mean no Jews = no resistance which is the object of the so called resistance. Your hate for Jews is palpable.
     
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    Reported for slander.
     
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    You are a child. You slander calling people Zionist bootlickers that do not believe in your hatred for Israel. Your hatred is something you are displaying so it is not slander to point out the truth.
     
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    I was going to respond in a completely different fashion.

    While researching the covenants status, I came across this fascinating paper.


    Hamas Debates the Future
    Palestine’s Islamic Resistance Movement Attempts to Reconcile Ideological Purity and Political Realism


    Its 5 years old, but still..... I was pleasantly surprised by the political posture vis a vis the conflict, even if they still demand complete "victory" on all demands for
    "conditional" peaceful co-existence.

    Some very interesting thinking.
     
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    You've made the erroneous connotation conflating my hatred of Zionism understood as a fascist political ideology on the one hand, with Judaism on the other. I hate fascism, whereas you are an apologist for it. That's the difference between me and you.
     
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    I'm familiar with the paper and its contents but thanks for posting it anyway.
     
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    January

    In January, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary, Palestinians fired 9 rockets and 7 mortar shells at Israel in 14 separate attacks.[1]

    January 1

    Palestinians fired two mortar shells containing phosphorus into Eshkol Regional Council. The shells landed in open fields, causing no injuries or damage.[2] The Eshkol Regional Council filed a formal complaint with the United Nations, noting that the Geneva Conventions prohibit the use of phosphorus against civilians.[3]

    January 19

    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[4]

    January 21

    Overnight, Palestinians fired three mortar shells into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage. In response to the attack, an Israeli Air Force helicopter immediately struck a group of terrorists in the Rafah area.[5][6]

    January 22

    Palestinians fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[7] In response to this attack and previous ones, Israel carried out air strikes on a weapons factory in the central Gaza Strip, two tunnels in the northern Strip and one tunnel in southern Gaza, causing no injuries.[8][9]

    January 24

    In the afternoon, Palestinians fired two Qassam rockets into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.
     
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    February

    In February, according to the Israel Security Agency's monthly summary, Palestinians launched 36 rockets and 1 mortar shell at Israel in 28 separate attacks.[11]

    February 1

    Between about 6:30 and 9:16 pm, Palestinians fired 8 rockets into the Shaar Hanegev and Ashkelon Coast regional councils, causing no injuries or damage. Local residents were instructed to stay within 15 seconds of bomb shelters in case of additional attacks. Israeli security officials estimated that the attacks were so timed because of the stormy weather, which limits the effectiveness of rocket detection systems.[12][13][14] Next day, Israeli warplanes struck six targets in Gaza in response to previous rocket attacks, hitting two weapons storage facilities, three tunnels used for terror activities and a weapons manufacturing facility.[15]

    February 6

    Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage. The Color Red alarm sounded near in the area prior to the explosion.[16]

    February 10

    After nightfall, Palestinian terrorists fired a rocket into a community in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. The rocket exploded between two homes, sending shrapnel that penetrated one of the homes while civilians were sitting in the living room. The rocket also damaged an electrical pole, cutting off power. No injuries were reported.[17]

    February 11

    Palestinians fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[18] Israel responded to the attack and to the previous one with air strikes on three tunnels used for terror activity – in the south, center and north of the Gaza Strip – and a weapons manufacturing facility in the north. Officials in the Hamas-ruled territory said that one civilian man was killed and another was wounded.[19]

    February 15

    Palestinians fired five rockets at Israel. Two rockets exploded in the Sdot Negev Regional Council, two more fell in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council, and a fifth fell in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. In response, the Israeli Air Force struck two targets in the Gaza Strip: a Hamas militant site in Gaza City, and a Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant site in Nuseirat.[20][21] France condemned both the Palestinian attacks and the Israeli response.[22]

    February 17

    Palestinians took advantage of the stormy weather, which hinders Israeli rocket warning systems, and fired two rockets into Israel. One landed in the Eshkol Regional Council, and the other hit the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council, south of Ashkelon. Later, Palestinians fired an additional rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported in any of the attacks.[23][24]

    February 18

    With the stormy weather continuing, at about 11:30 am Palestinian terrorists fired a Grad rocket at Beersheba; the projectile landed outside the city. Sirens sounded in Beersheba and the Bnei Shimon Regional Council, and residents entered shelters.[25][26]

    Palestinian terrorists later fired a rocket toward Israel, but it exploded instead on a Palestinian home in the Gaza Strip, causing no injuries.[27]

    Israel responded to recent attacks with an air strike on a weapons manufacturing site in the Gaza Strip.[28]

    February 19

    After nightfall, Palestinians fired two Qassam rockets into the Sdot Negev Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[29]

    February 21

    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a mortar shell into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[30]

    February 23

    Palestinians fired two Qassam rockets into the Sha'ar Hanegev and Eshkol regional councils, causing no injuries or damage. Residents of the former said that the Color Red alarm sounded only seconds before the rocket exploded, and some did not manage to reach rocket shelters in time.[31][32][33]

    February 24

    At about 1 am, a Palestinian terrorist cell attempting to fire rockets at Israel was thwarted when an IAF jet fired at it. Palestinian sources said that two people were injured.[34] At about 2:30 am, Palestinians terrorists fired two rockets into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage. Israel responded with air strikes on two terror targets in the northern Gaza Strip.[34][35][34][32][33]

    February 25

    In the evening, Palestinian terrorists fired two Qassam rockets at Ashkelon. One landed in an open area within the city, and the other landed in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. After nightfall, a third Qassam rocket landed in the southern Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported in any of the attacks. In response, IAF aircraft targeted a weapons-manufacturing site and a smuggling tunnel in southern Gaza Strip, causing no injuries.[36][37][38][39][40][41]

    February 26

    In the morning, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[42]

    February 28

    Palestinians fired a rocket into the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council, near Ashkelon, causing no injuries or damage. The Color Red alarm sounded in the region.[43][44]

    Israel sent a demonstratively terse letter of protest to the United Nations, saying: "Ten days, ten rockets and not one condemnation"
     
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    March
    [edit] March 1–8

    March 1

    Palestinians fired three rockets toward Ashkelon. The projectiles landed in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[46]

    March 2

    Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[47]

    March 3

    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[48]

    March 8

    On the morning of the Jewish holiday of Purim, Palestinians fired a mortar shell into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[49]
    [edit] March 9–15
    Main article: March 2012 Gaza-Israel clashes

    Palestinians fired over 300 Grad missiles, rockets and mortars deep into Israel. Three civilians were wounded directly by the fire, one of them seriously. Additionally, 21 people suffered from shock and 11 were injured while fleeing for cover. Israel's Iron Dome missile defense system intercepted many of the Palestinian-launched projectiles aimed at large cities, shooting down 56 rockets in 71 attempts.[50][51][52][53][54][55][56][57]

    Most of the attacks followed an Israeli air strike on Zuhair al-Qaissi, commander of the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees, a terrorist group with close ties to Hamas, and Mahmoud Hanini, a top field commander in the group. Al-Qaissi had overseen the 2011 southern Israel cross-border attacks, which killed eight Israelis including six civilians.[58] Israeli officials said that he was preparing the final stages of a new mega-attack that could have claimed multiple lives.[59]

    To protect students from the rockets, Israeli officials cancelled classes in all schools in the cities of Ashdod, Ashkelon, Beersheba, Netivot, Kiryat Malakhi, Kiryat Gat, Gedera, Yavne, Lakya and other southern communities, as well as in Ben Gurion University of the Negev, Ashkelon Academic College and Sami Shamoon College of Engineering.[60][61][62][63] The Home Front Command barred all mass gatherings in southern Israeli communities.[64] The Israel Police raised the level of alert around the country.[65]

    Israel responded with air strikes on weapons storage facilities, rocket launching sites, weapon manufacturing facilities, training bases, posts, tunnels and terror operatives, killing 22 militants, mostly from Palestinian Islamic Jihad and the others from the Popular Resistance Committees. Four civilians were killed as well,[66][53][67][68][69] though some died of causes unrelated to Israeli actions.[70]

    The United States, France, and an official from the United Nations condemned the Palestinian attacks, and the US stressed that Israel has the right to defend itself.[71][72] The Organization of the Islamic Conference, the Arab League, Syria , Egypt and Iran condemned Israel's responsive air strikes on militants.[73][74][75][76][77][78]

    Details of individual attacks follow:

    March 9

    Palestinians fired two mortar shells into the Eshkol Regional Council.[79]
    In the early evening, at least four Grad missiles fired at Ashdod, Gan Yavne and Kiryat Malachi were intercepted by Iron Dome.[80]
    Late in the evening, several rockets were fired at Beersheba. Some landed on the outskirts of the city, and at least one was intercepted by Iron Dome.[80]
    Six Qassam rockets were fired on the Shaar Hanegev, Sdot Negev and Eshkol regional councils.[81]

    March 10

    During the night, a rocket fired at Beersheba damaged a building and activated air raid sirens. Residents fled to shelters. A second rocket fired at the city was intercepted by Iron Dome.[82]
    Two rockets fired at Ashdod were intercepted by Iron Dome.[83]
    A rocket fired at Beersheba from the northern Gaza Strip landed in an open area.[84]
    Two rockets exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[85][86]
    A rocket exploded near Sderot. The Color Red alarm sounded in the area.[87]
    A Qassam rocket exploded in the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council.[88]
    Two rockets fired at Ashkelon were intercepted by Iron Dome.[89]
    Two rockets exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[90]
    A rocket exploded near Netivot, while another landed near Sderot.[91]
    Shortly before 2 pm, a Qassam rocket exploded in a farm in the Eshkol Regional Council.[92]
    Two rockets hit the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council within the space of an hour.[93]
    Two rockets hit the Eshkol Regional Council.[94]
    Two rockets fired at Ashdod were intercepted by Iron Dome. The Color Red alarm sounded in the city.[95]
    After nightfall, shrapnel from a rocket intercepted over Ashkelon by Iron Dome fell on a home in the city.[96]
    A rocket landed near a farming facility in the Be'er Tuvia Regional Council.[97]
    A Qassam rocket hit a stable near Kiryat Malachi, killing a horse.[98]
    Two Grad rockets were fired at Ashkelon.[97]
    Five rockets exploded in open areas in the Eshkol Regional Council.[99]

    March 11

    Palestinians fired at least 39 rockets into Israel.[100]

    In the morning, two rockets were fired into Israel, one into the Eshkol Regional Council and one at Ashkelon.[101]
    Later in the morning, several rockets were fired at Ashdod, at least one of which was intercepted by Iron Dome.[102]
    Shrapnel from a rocket fired at Beersheba and intercepted by Iron Dome fell on the city. A vehicle and a sewer pipe were damaged and several residents suffered from shock.[103]
    A rocket hit a school in Beersheba[104], exploding in its courtyard and damaging its outer walls and disconnecting parts of the neighborhood from landlines [105]. A second rocket landed in the middle of a residential neighborhood in the city; fifteen homes were damaged and several residents suffered from shock.[106]
    Two rockets were launched at Ofakim.[107]
    Three Qassam rockets exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[108]
    Two rockets fired at Ashkelon were intercepted by Iron Dome.[109]
    Two Qassam rockets landed in the Eshkol Regional Council.[110]
    Late at night, four Grad rockets were fired at Ashkelon. Some were intercepted by Iron Dome.[111]
     
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    March 12

    Palestinians fired 42 rockets into Israel.[113]

    During the night, seven Qassam rockets were fired into the Eshkol Regional Council. One landed in a village and damaged several homes and vehicles.[114][115][116]
    In the morning, three rockets were fired at Beersheba. One was intercepted by Iron Dome and the two others landed outside the city. A warning siren sounded in the city.[117]
    In the morning, five rockets fired at Ashdod were intercepted by Iron Dome. At least one additional rocket landed near the city. The Color Red alarm sounded in the city and surrounding areas.[118][119]
    Two trucks that were transporting goods from Israel into the Gaza Strip were damaged by mortar shells on the Gazan side of the Kerem Shalom border crossing.[120]
    A Qassam rocket landed in the Eshkol Regional Council.[121]
    Two Qassam rockets landed in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council.[122]
    Around 1 pm, two Grad rockets exploded near Beersheba. Air raid sirens sounded in the city.[123]
    Around 1:30 pm, a Qassam rocket fired from the northern Gaza Strip exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[124]
    Around 1:30 pm, one or two rockets landed near Gedera. Two vehicles were damaged, and several people suffered from shock.[125][126]
    Around 2:30 pm, three rockets exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[127]
    Around 2:30 pm, a rocket exploded in Ashdod. Two people were injured by shrapnel, and several other people suffered from shock. Damage was to caused to stores and a vehicle.[128][129] Two other rockets fired at the city were intercepted by Iron Dome.[130]
    Around 4:30 pm, a rocket exploded near Ofakim.[131]
    Around 5 pm, a rocket fired at Ashdod was intercepted by Iron Dome.[132]
    Around 6:30 pm, two rockets exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[133]
    Around 8 pm, two rockets fired at Ashkelon were intercepted by Iron Dome. A third rocket landed in an open area.[134] Air raid sirens sounded in the city.[135]
    Around 9 pm, two mortar shells were fired into Israel.[136]
    Around 10 pm, a Qassam rocket exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[137]

    March 13

    Despite an informal ceasefire, Palestinians fired at least 7 rockets and 10 mortars at Israel.[50]

    Before morning, a rocket exploded in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council.[138]
    In the morning, a mortar shell landed in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council.[139]
    In the morning, a Qassam rocket exploded in the Eshkol Regional Council.[140]
    Around 10:30 am, a mortar shell fired at the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council set off the Color Red alarm in the area, but it apparently landed within the Gaza Strip.[141]
    Around noon, six mortar shells were fired into the Eshkol Regional Council.[142][143]
    Around 7 pm, a Qassam rocket was fired into the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council.[144]
    Around 8 pm, a mortar shell was fired into the Eshkol Regional Council.[145]
    Around 11 pm, a rocket exploded in a parking lot in Netivot. A 40-year-old man was injured by shrapnel, and 20[146] people were treated for shock. Several vehicles were damaged.[147]

    March 14

    Around 7 pm, a Grad rocket fired at Beersheba was intercepted by Iron Dome. A second rocket landed in an empty field. Neither projectile caused injuries or damage.[148] Following the attack, local authorities announced that schools in Ashdod, Ashkelon, Beersheba, Kiryat Gat, Kiryat Malachi, Gan Yavne and the Bnei Shimon Regional Council would be closed for March 15. Some schools had been open on March 14 after the recent escalation was perceived as having ended.[149] Israel responded to the attack with air strikes on an infiltration tunnel and a rocket launching site.[150]

    March 15

    Palestinians fired a barrage of rockets into Israel. The attacks were praised by Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah, who, in a Hezbollah graduation ceremony, lauded that fact that "the resistance was able to force a million and half a million of Israelis to stay in shelters".[151] Details of individual attacks:

    In the morning, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Sdot Negev Regional Council near Netivot.[152]
    Several hours later, a Grad rocket fired at Beersheba was intercepted by Iron Dome. Air raid sirens sounded in the area.[153]
    After nightfall, a Grad rocket fired at Ashdod was intercepted by Iron Dome, and air raid sirens sounded in the area.[154]
    Around 9 pm, a rocket was fired into the Eshkol Regional Council.[155]
    Around 9:30 pm, a rocket exploded in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council.[156]

    [edit] March 16–31

    March 16

    Before morning, Palestinian terrorists fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council.[157]

    March 19

    In the morning, Palestinians fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[158]

    March 20

    In the morning, Palestinians fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[159]

    March 21

    In the evening, Palestinians fired a rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council. Later, a mortar shell was fired into the Sha'ar Hanegev Regional Council. This was followed moments later by a second mortar shell fired at Israel Defense Forces soldiers near the border fence. No injuries or damage were reported in any of the attacks.[160][161][162]

    March 29

    In the evening, Palestinians fired three mortar shells into the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.
     
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    Your denials of anti-semitism would be much more believeable if you stopped equating zionism with fascism/nazism. You insist Israel isn't a democracy, although by any definition including the UN's it is. Even when a line by line dissection of multiple definitions of fascism clearly demonstrate that zionism does not qualify as a fascist ideology, you insist it does by refusing to accept obvious and proven facts.

    Even worse, you don't engage in actually debate wrt to a detailed dissection of any premise, you leave that to moon, while you simply dismiss contradicting claims out of hand.
     

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