Communism is Everywhere

Maybe run out of rational arguments and want to convince themselves the commie Boogieman is still out to get them? It must be a sick mind which believes all these conspiracy theories.
Or the motivation is venting and trolling, as mentioned earlier.

 

holy schnikey is this thread ripe with crazy...

 

Hi Someone, I don't mean to attest that I know more than Owen... when I refer to what I see as "somewhat" ironic I mean the denial; which - it could at least be argued - is replete in countries which call themselves communist. What we have is purists, (like yourself?) who say that it's not the theory but the application/interpretation. When the experiment failed it is said by historians that he was in denial when he dragged it out for two years. Lenin's gang from what can tell were very much in denial when it came to their ability to run a country... but whatever problems occur, it's not the system to blame but the application/interpretation/people involved. As you say the countries who purport to be communist are in denial when claiming to be democracies etc. So I think there is something to look at... which is why I ask the question does it work in practice? And the answer, in short, is it depends. It's the same with religion, purists won't blame the doctrine but the interpretation/application, which holds some weight but to expand on this I would have to further study the shadow between the dream and reality as it were.

Yes, but they call themselves communist, whether you or anyone says otherwise, so I guess you should tell that to them. Again there's something to look at there... why is it that in practice pure communist theory is poluted beyond recognition?

That's fair enough, hence why I started the statement with "it is said". Of course when I say extreme left I refer to communism and not anarchy. Orwell hated these types of regimes because of the bad reputation it leant to his socialist cause. So the question is, if the communist revolution had spread throughout the world, would it be inevitable to see more and more realisations of 1984 despite the good intentions meant by purists?

I don't have the answers but these are certainly things I would like to look into, whatever you say about it, it's fascinating and important.

Well, thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

i don't think there were any "socialist regimes" during Owen's time?
I understand he was a predecessor, a pioneer if you will, of socialism.
His major work "Plans for alleviating poverty through Socialism" appeared in 1817, a year before Marx was born.

 

Has anyone seen a communist or a zombies today?

 

Sure...communism is inspired by theology...

Ya know what? Keep on. Ignorance is funny.

 

You have this reversed. He's saying that a certain theology was inspired by communism.

 

which is equally ridiculous. A Christian theology inspired by a guy who believed that religion was the opiate of the people.

 

Wasn't Scientific Socialism of Engles and Marx, designed to address the problematic violence of revolution, and still usher in the desired communism?

It's been a while, refresh my memory on this.

 

We can only wish that is true. Wouldn't it be great if the other 99% had a say or at least some other 1% of the population were in control. Where can I join up?

 

The OP hasn't returned to debate his opening post. It appears he's hiding with embarrassment.

 

well actually ... liberation theology is somewhat inspired by Marxism ... but it uses christian teachings (Jesus was also a socialist ... a man before his time)


But liberation theology has been around for decades ... and is basically a catholic movement originally based in south america, so I am not quite sure what the connection with an american evangelical pastor is.