Gang rape video goes viral, shocking South Africa

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    Without whites SA is going to became an average African Banana state like Zimbabwe and Nigeria. The case of degraded SA is one of numerous proofs that the Race theory is right and only very naive people can believe that an African tribe can be equal to an European folk.
     
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    Many blacks in SA want apartheid again because they had jobs, money and country was lesser criminal.
     
  3. fiddlerdave

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    Oh, pul-leaassse! :roll:

    The white minority committed atrocities against the blacks everywhere there EVERY DAY!

    EVERY white person was a CRIMINAL.

    The backs who got to be strawbosses and overseers and never tried to obtain freedom from their enslavement did OK.

    All others were tortured, humiliated, jailed, starved, beaten, raped, and murdered, usually slowly. Of course, since the victims were black, that is NO crime in the mind of White Nationalists.
     
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    Apartheid was wrong and should never happen again. i have family in africa., they been there for decades and even with the british rule and modern hand over they kept their farm and many of their workers.

    They did not agree with it either but it was the state of the society at the time. Now a slow process to something different and in many cases, more equal for all.
     
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    Absolute balderdash.
     
  6. Man on Fire

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    Please provide some evidence of that claim?
     
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    nope, this girl is stil worse off.
     
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    gang rape-still worse...and it's not from being from the deep south or being confused. it's from living in a country where the government treats everyone like slaves.
     
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    Rubbish.The gang rape of one woman is not worse than treating the whole coloured population of a country as slaves. You are off in some dream world.
     
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    it is for that one woman.
     
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    I think the point is that under apartheid, this offense against this young black girl would not have been investigated or even considered a crime. Today, the act is just a vile, but there is hope because the SA law recognizes the humanity of whites, blacks, and colored equally. Hopefully with the capture and prosecution of the rapists, this new reality will penetrate deeper into the psyche of the South African citizens.
     
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    You had to change your argument. Fail.
     
  13. mikezila

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    there is no change.
     
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    Ah the guy who thinks that a gang rape is worse than Apartheid where people were rounded up by the security forces and murdered on a regular basis,where coloured people were treated as slaves.Where they were tortured and raped. You certainly have a lot of learning to do.
     
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    good point.

    When I first came across this one, the article talked about how many people viewed it, and also said that 25% of South African men admitted to having raped a woman.

    apart from what happened to the individual woman (and I agree with Mikezelia that for that one girl, the experience definitely IS worse than apartheid) I find that I am wondering why so many people watched it, and why so many men think rape is acceptable in that society - and I think you are onto something here.

    when we dehumanise people, we teach them that empathy for others is not valued. even decades after apartheid has ended, events like this are still the scars of that system.

    apartheid taught generations of black and coloured south africans that they were worth less than others. institutionalised racism and a brutal regime taught people that being powerful was about having no regard for others.

    South Africa still has a long way to go before the wekest and most vulnerable members of the society no longer bear the brunt of the anger and resentment that decades of apartheid created.
     
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    do you have any links to support your claims?..thought not. just more liberal fantasy. :no:
     
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    Are you really trying to deny that coloured people were rounded up by security forces,murdered on a regular basis,treated as slaves,tortured and raped? Really? You do not know that this happened? You were living in a dark room for all those years? You call it a liberal fantasy. You should really read up on this fact of history before posting such utter crap.

    You can start here.

    Triumph Over Torture by Michael Lapsley
    Michael Lapsley, himself a victim of a parcel bomb from the apartheid regime.

    First Experience of Torture

    In 1975, I was a student in Durban. The brother of a friend of mine was detained . He was physically tortured including electric shocks to the genitals. Another woman was detained with the brother of my friend. In her case her parents were brought to see her in detention. The parents told me what considerate and kind people the security police are. As soon as the parents left, the security police told the daughter that if she did not tell all, she would not see her parents again. She did tell all and they did not lay a finger on her.


    Torture in South Africa

    Sad to say torture became a normative part of the South African way of life especially during the 1980s when repression and resistance was at its strongest.

    Like so many other struggles, as the years passed, we kept crossing thresh holds of what we were prepared to do to each other. Those involved in the struggle against apartheid became progressively younger as the years passed.

    In the late 80s estimates of numbers in detention reached more than 80,000 with more than 10,000 under the age of 18. Evidence suggested that more than 90% had been tortured. Detention, unlike imprisonment, exposed the detainee to a range of horrendous uncertainties:

    For how long will I be detained? (Under apartheid legislation detention without trial was unlimited in duration). Will I be tortured, how long will it last? Will I be able to endure? Will I betray my comrades? Will I die? Wouldn’t it be better to die than to survive?
    Although many have written and spoken about their experience of torture, I am not sure that anyone who has not had the experience knows the full horror and terror experienced by a torture survivor.

    The torturer would say: “Scream for all you like, no- one can hear. Don’t worry we wont leave marks so no one will believe you.”

    During countless numbers of political trials the accused would tell the courts that they had been tortured, often giving names, dates and detailed descriptions of the kinds of torture. The English speaking press recorded these details for the public to know.


    Torture and the Truth Commission

    In his recently published book on the truth commission, its Deputy Chairperson, Alex Boraine writes:

    “From June to August 1997, the TRC analysed a large amount of evidence presented to it concerning allegations of torture committed by the security forces. Our information indicated that the rate of torture increased more than ten-fold after the declaration of the state of emergency in 1986. Furthermore the TRC had received statements alleging that the security forces had been involved in almost 2000 acts of torture in more than 200 different venues around that time.”

    “Torture was not something that took place in a handful of prisons, performed by perverted warders. Torture was endemic. There was no place we visited, no hearing we conducted , which did not contain stories of torture. Thousands were killed, not merely at roadblocks, in ambushes and raids, but also by abduction and design. Those who were seen as a threat to the apartheid regime were in many instances summarily executed”

    Boraine,A. A Country Unmasked: Inside South Africa’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission
    Oxford 2000 p.131


    Triumph Over Torture
     
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    Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa Report

    VIOLATIONS BY CATEGORY

    24. Security force applicants applied for a total of 550 incidents, eighty-six of which
    encompassed a number of separate acts.1 0 Examples of these were assaults/torture
    during interrogation between 1984 and 1989; the arson/bombing campaign by the
    N o r t h e rn Transvaal Security Branch in 1986 to 1988; various Stratcom1 1 a c t i v i t i e s
    between 1977 and 1994; supplying the Inkatha Freedom Party (IFP) with weapons
    between 1991 and 1992, and the intimidation of named civilians from 1974 onward s .
    25. The 550 incidents involved or resulted in the following 1583 acts:1 2

    A b d u c t i o n s 80
    Attempted abductions 2
    Arms caches 9
    Bombing and arson 8 3
    Attempted bombing and arson 4
    C o v e r- u p1 3 8
    Body mutilation/destruction 44
    D i s i n f o r m a t i o n / d i s c rediting actions 21
    Fraud and theft 34
    Attempted fraud/theft 9
    Illegal weapons 4
    I n t i m i d a t i o n 7 2
    K i l l i n g 889
    Attempted killings 1 4 3
    To r t u re / a s s a u l t 9 8
    O t h e r 4 2

    Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa Report
     
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    that was over 5 years...now it's a good weekend. thanks for proving my point. :thumbsup:
     
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    Wow so you read the whole Truth and Reconciliation Commission of South Africa Report that I posted in 5 minutes. You must be a very fast reader as it stretches to about 30 chapters. I guess you are not really interested in learning anything.You were proven wrong anyway. Thanks. Have a nice day.
     
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    1. Don't bother me with the problems of the Western culture, it was forced on Germany by violence, we are not a typical western society, these are your problem.
    2. Don't mix up your problems with that of South Africa under the Apartheid era, cause you were forcing Western culture on the Boers who ran a valid and healthy system.
    3. Despite of all the stinking rotenness of liberalism in a Western society, Western civilizations are modern urban civilizations. As well as non Western Japanese e.g.
    Negroes don't fit in modern urban civilizations,they just cannot handle it. May it be Western or non Western.
     
  22. DonGlock26

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    Bwahahahahah!!!!! Now, that's how it's done!



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    Did you eat something bad? I am worried about you.
     
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    It was a first world country. Maybe you don't know what that means.
     
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    Yes I know what it means. It was a made up name for political purposes in the cold war. I bet you did not know that. It is a term that means nothing really.
     

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