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  1. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    Either the Islamists have got you fully programmed, or you're one of them yourself. Koan misquoted ? Yeah ? How do you quote sura 4:34 ?
     
  2. protectionist

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    See Americans ? See what the Islamists teach ?

    "Slavery seems to be ok" And why would slavery (one of the most heinous acts in existence be thought to be OK, by these nuts ?) - Here's why > Koran 33:50.

    PS - It's also ILLEGAL here in the USA. Get caught doing it, and you go to prison for a long time.
     
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    It seems to be about what men should do mostly ? LOL. Why is that ?
    Actually, I would guess there needs to be more women divorcing men because of the immoral, illegal, despicable tendency to beat their wives as Koran 4:34 advocates, in addition to all the other male-domination, screwball thing advocated by Islam. All the more reason to keep Islam out of American and ban it totally, by forbidden the sale of the Koran or having it in libraries, and the closing down of all mosques.
     
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    the bible doesn’t exactly crack down on slavery either or champion equality between the genders you can have a holy book and not live its example for better or worse
     
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    If you don't LIVE the example of a holy book, then for you, it's not a holy book. Also, the title of the tread is "Islam thread" not Bible Thread. For those who wish to talk off topic, there is "New Thread".
     
  6. OJLeb

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    [3:26] Say, "O Allah , Owner of Sovereignty, You give sovereignty to whom You will and You take sovereignty away from whom You will. You honor whom You will and You humble whom You will. In Your hand is [all] good. Indeed, You are over all things competent.
    [3:27] You cause the night to enter the day, and You cause the day to enter the night; and You bring the living out of the dead, and You bring the dead out of the living. And You give provision to whom You will without account."
     
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    Islam, the religion that lives by the sword and dies by the sword, and is under the rigid control of misogynist meglomanics.
     
  8. OJLeb

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    Older video, but such a strong message still...

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNGqrzkFp_4"]Why I Hate Religion, But Love Jesus || Muslim Version || Spoken Word || Response - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    Greetings.

    Though I'm not a troll, I have to ask some provocative things which I consider as proofs of Islam's falsity.

    1. Is it true that some Islamic scholars respects men and women as equals? I've heard such things many times. But at the same time they are by no means equal for example in the issues of trial. One man's testimony equals two these of women. Women without a man couldn't by enough with their testimonies even if there are ten of them. But for men 2 witnesses is enough.

    How could you prove that a woman equals only a half of a man in the issues of testimony? Of course I understand that you haven't to prove anything in religious questions but it just makes such views false.

    2. Is it true that there is a hadith which tells to kill black dogs "because there is Shaitan inside of them"? There I'm not sure but have heard several times.

    3. Is it true that drawing of alive objects is banned? If it is so where is the border which organism Muslim could draw and which couldn't? Bacteria are alive, plants are too, as well as hydroid polyps, infusoria and fungi.

    4. Is it true that musical instruments are banned except percussion? Is it true that women singing is banned? Nasheeds are without instruments and women vocal.
     
  10. OJLeb

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    1. From my understanding, a womans testimony is only "worth half" in financial situations.

    2. This is explained here: http://muttaqun.com/dogs.html

    3. Again, instead of giving a watered down explanation: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/365

    4. There is a split here, some say no instruments are allowed, other say some are, and this includes singing for both men and woman. So, it depends on who you ask.

    Since there are two perspectives, I'll give a link for one of each.

    http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/music.html is for it.
    http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=1786&CATE=142 is against it.

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    Sorry to just post links, but I don't have the time to go into very much detail so I thought this would be more helpful.
     
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    [video=youtube;yX3UHNhQ1Zk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX3UHNhQ1Zk[/video]
     
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    File not found Misri.

    I take that as a sign.
     
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    Hi my friend
    I'm so confused about what u said!!!!!!!
    do u know Islam? I mean History or rules or Cults or......
    because it seems your Comments is just for dropping down the Islam.
    please, If you haven't any science about some thing don't talk until learn something.
     
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    LOL , you know if I change Islam with Catholic Church...

    Sorry but all religions and religious groups could be described as that as well as the complete opposite.
     
  20. OJLeb

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    Salam wa'alykum.

    Some people on here spend their time insulting Islam with what they read on the anti-Islamic hate websites, then post it on here unfortunately.

    They would rather stay dumb and blind instead of learn what they are talking about.
     
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    [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

    2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    [2.244] And fight in the way of Allah,...

    [2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

    [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them,
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    That's not a doctrine that's unique to the Koran. The Bible has a ton of exact passages. The main difference is that in the Koran the killing stops once the victim submits. In the Old Testament it continues until every last one has been killed.

    Just be thankful that you don't have to cope with the ancient Israelites and the radical muslims at the same time.

    The main question no one ever answers is why should non-Jews and non-Arabs believe in ethnocentric Jewish and Arab religous fairy tales in the first place?
     
  24. OJLeb

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    That is a number of verses copied off of some anti-Islamic website taken out of context and that I have probably explained all of those verses about a dozen times on this forum, including multiple times to that same user posting them...

    As for your question, Islam is not only for Arabs... Majority of Muslims are non-Arab. So... I guess the answer is because it is not a religion designed for one ethnicity. In fact Islam does a good job removing that barrier to unite people by faith.
     
  25. stig42

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    lots of bad things about islam form the site you lincked to
     
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