I just cannot understand the conspiracy

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  1. Riffer

    Riffer New Member

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    That doesn't imply foreknowledge, it implies intent to film what they saw.


    Many non-Jews "documented the event" too, are they equally as guilty in your opinion or is being Jewish some kind of qualifier for you?
     
  2. Riffer

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    Actually, I believe what evidence can support.

    You believe anything that satisfies your hate filled ideology and the veracity of your sources is unimportant.
     
  3. Riffer

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    Still waiting for you to support your claim that removing materials from ground zero was illegal.

    You keep running away from discussing that claim to its fruition for some strange reason.
     
  4. SkyStryker

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    That is not true as much of what happened in the OCT has been speculated. To this day we don't know who financed the attacks.

    I watched some of the video and it makes some good points. The most reliable eyewitness testimony is the earliest. You cannot deny the multitude of of onsite statements that do not support the OCT.
     
  5. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    or the laws of physics,or BLD 7 which they ALWAYS ignore and make fools of themselves in the process by doing so,or firefighters experienced in the sounds of explosives and most importantly,that NIST publicly lied about there being no pools of molten steel.They ALWAYS ignore these facts to try and save face in their posts when defeated.
     
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    there are TONS of them in this section as you can tell.:D

    Hey,since you brought up the mossad connection,here is some more excellent good undebunkable stuff you can have comedy gold with them on watching the shills and frady cat deniars afraid of the truth,fling crap like monkeys in defeat like they always do here.:D

    there is multiple TONS of truth in there as you clink on many of the links as well as read that article there that they can only only run away from by denying it in their posts that they always do.I just came across it by accident.i wasnt looking for anything on the mossad as well just the familys stories.

    Have fun with the shills watching them make fools of themselves ignoring all of this .:D you know thats a given.:):D
    the only thing I dont like about it is they so much talk about the zionest agenda on it that they ignore that Bushs cousin Wirt walker the third also was a major part of the security team as well all the way up till 9/11.

    Many will say Marvin Bush resigned from it in 2000 or so which is true,but they then ignore you when you point out the OTHER fact that his other cousin Walker,WAS there till 9/11 though.they conviently choose to talk about only THEIR facts such as that one as you already know.lol
    https://wikispooks.com/wiki/9/11:Israel_did_it

    all of that is nothing though compared to the 9/11 missing links video you showed.Ony a retard would say there was no mossad involvement aftere watching that.None of the shills ever watch that video or admit defeat cause their handlers would not pay them anymore if they ever did that.:mrgreen:
     
  7. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    1:explosives aren't the only thing that explodes and makes 'sounds of explosions'
    2: NO laws of Physics were violated by building 7 on 9/11,and you have zero proof to say otherwise
    3:There were NO 'pools of molten steel' at the WTC site, and you have nothing proviong there was...

    Another massive fail.
     
  8. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    OK. Fine by me. You want to play games? No sweat off my brow. You're the one who looks bad, not me.

    So lets take the most common. Remote control planes hit the towers, which were rigged with explosives. WTC 7 was also rigged with explosives. No plane hit the Pentagon and it was a missile. Flight 93 was landed elsewhere and Shanskville was faked.

    Planning
    Lets say 20 guys. Could be more. Could be less. Then they're going to need experts in things like demolition and remote control planes. Say another 10

    Prep
    Towers
    Need to buy out the entire security detail in order to plant the explosives without question and get the explosives past the dogs. Say 20 people
    Need a competent crew to wire 2 110 story buildings in a very short amount of time. After all, you only have 9 months. 50 minimum
    Need people to install and test the remote hardware in the two planes. This has to be done with the knowledge and cooperation of the maintenance crews, the flight crews that use the plane, security at whatever airport they made the modifications at, and United security. 100 for each plane if one assumes United management wasn't in on the scheme as well.
    Need to research all people on all flights including other flights close to the target flights, obtain voice recordings of them, obtain stress patterns and idiosyncracies to fool loved ones, find out the numbers and locations of where loved ones will be. 50 people minimum.
    WTC 7
    Need to buy out the security at WTC 7. WTC was a private tower and security was not handled by the port authority. 20 people.
    Need another competent crew to wire up the 47 story WTC7. 25 people.
    Pentagon
    Need to secure a fighter pilot, a missile, a plane, and nobody ask questions. That includes everyone from the people who fueled the plane, the armorers, the flight crew, ATC, the commanders, the maintenance crews. Everyone. Planes don't just take off with live ammo on a day like 9/11, come back missing weapons and nobody asks questions. Figure 300 minimum.
    Need to have a crew plant plane parts in the Pentagon, cut light poles and plant explosive charges to make the poles appear to be hit.
    Need people to install and test the remote hardware in Flight 93. This has to be done with the knowledge and cooperation of the maintenance crews, the flight crews that use the plane, security at whatever airport they made the modifications at, and American Airlines security. 100 for each plane if one assumes American management wasn't in on the scheme as well.

    Shanksville
    The owner of the land has to be in on it or he would have reported the people on his land.
    A competent crew to dig a trench, plant tons of debris, cover it up, plant explosives and incindiary devices in the woods. 20 people.
    Need people to install and test the remote hardware in Flight 93. This has to be done with the knowledge and cooperation of the maintenance crews, the flight crews that use the plane, security at whatever airport they made the modifications at, and American Airlines security. 100 for each plane if one assumes American management wasn't in on the scheme as well.

    Attack
    Towers
    2 remote pilots plus the tech staff to support the remote equipment. Figure 15 people total
    Demolition crews to man the explosive charges. Figure same people who set the charges.
    People to fake the calls to United headquarters and pretend they are the flight attendants. Must route signal through United's own private network and know the lingo, numbers to call, etc. 4 callers and 20 support people.

    WTC 7
    Demolition crews to set fires and set off explosives. Same as who set.
    Fire department heads who declare WTC 7 is going to collapse and clear people from around WTC 7. ~15 reported first hand knowledge of the pending collapse. Assume all are guilty in the conspiracy.
    BBC staff to report WTC 7 collapsed early including writers, reporters, on air staff, editors, directors, and management. Rough guess would be 50.

    Pentagon
    Minimum of 100 fake witnesses who claim to see plane but really see missile.
    Enough people on the freeway to keep every other eyewitness as far away from the Pentagon as possible so they can't see the missile. How many would you say? My guess is you couldn't do it with less than 300 people because you can't time the entire flow of
    traffic that precisely.
    People involved in the landing of flight 77, killing the crew and passengers, chopping up and burning the body parts, destroying the plane, faking the FDR data and transporting it all to the Pentagon. 100 minimum

    Shanksville
    People to set off explosive charges and set fire to the woods. 5.
    First responders who "see" evidence of a crash. 50
    People who were involved in landing flight 77, killing all crew and passengers, faking the FDR, transporting all the chopped up and burned body parts to the shanksville crash site and planting the evidence. 100 minimum.

    Coverup
    Towers:
    The entire FDNY who was present at the towers on 9/11. They would know if it was a controlled demolition. Not one of them claims it was a controlled demolition. 600 minimum.
    The entire Port authority as they too would know it was a controlled demolition and would have to be kept quiet. At least 100.
    Every member of the NIST who worked on the tower report. 85 NIST experts and 125 outside experts according to the NIST Source. One would have to believe management was in on it as well.
    The thousands of workers who cleaned up the tower debris. Many were experts at controlled demolition and know the signs of controlled demolition because they have to look for charges that didn't go off. Over 40,000 people worked the tower cleanup. Lets say 2000 of them would have to be in on it to not say anything about the obvious signs of controlled demolition. How many of them would you make sure were not going to talk if your life depended on them not discovering the controlled demolition?
    People at the following firms who helped with the NIST investigation.

    Pentagon
    The 8000 people who worked the Pentagon scene who would have noticed the damage was consistant with a missile and not a plane, the initial lack of plane parts, and the initial lack of body parts.
    ATC at both Reagan International and Dulles International that would have noticed no plane flying into the Pentagon. 50 people
    FAA people in charge of radar faking records to show Flight 77 from takeoff to crash. 10 people
    NTSB investigators. 50 minimum

    Shanksville
    1500 people worked the Shanksville crash site. Since not one of them has come forward to claim there was no plane, it is safe to assume they were all in on the conspiracy.
    NTSB investigators. 50 minimum

    Investigation
    9/11 commission. Truthers are just sure the entire 9/11 commission report is fake, so wouldn't they all be in on it?
    FBI. 7000 agents were actively investigating 9/11. You're going to need just about every one if you're going to insure none of them stumble on the truth and do their job.

    I don't need to total them up to know you have more than a couple thousand no matter how you slice it. So, unless you can show where I am wrong or can show how it can be done without ANYONE figuring it out, concede that it would take thousands. You already had your opportunity to claim which conspiracy theory to use, so don't go pretending you were really thinking about some different scenario. :lol: Truthers are so predictable.
     
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    Not one of those statements refutes the OCT. Truthers have to be completely and totally without morals and honesty when they pretend the fire fighters "REALLY" meant explosions caused by explosives or didn't mean to use the word "like" when describing the explosions. Do you have someone who claims to have actually SEEN the explosives? And if what you're trying to claim is true is true, why hasn't a single FDNY fire fighter stepped forward to claim they thought it was a controlled demolition and the explosions they heard were cutter charges? Don't you think at least ONE of them would be brave enough to tell the truth? Or do you always go around demeaning people with more bravery in their little finger than you will ever have period?
     
  10. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    We HAVE looked. Not one shred of evidence supports your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims. Not one. Yet you want people to ignore all other evidence and just believe you and a bunch of POS skinhead (*)(*)(*)(*)s? :lol: I don't think so. I've asked you several times to post one shred of evidence. All you could do was post lameassed videos. I rest my case.
     
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    I didn't say it refuted the OCT. I said many of the statements do not support the OCT.

    I started reading the crap in post 158 and it was beyond unbelievably stoopid so I stopped about the fifth sentence in.
     
  12. Patriot911

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    If they do not support the OCT, then they support the controlled demolition bull(*)(*)(*)(*) theory, and thus REFUTE the OCT. A couple seconds of thought should have made that obvious. I noticed you didn't try to defend the dishonest tactic of the truthers in pretending truthers can read their minds and tell what they were "really" talking about or that the word "like" can actually change the meaning of a description. :lol:

    Don't worry. We all knew you would run from your obvious bull(*)(*)(*)(*) being exposed as bull(*)(*)(*)(*). So when are you going to present your theory where the attack can be planned, prepped, carried out and covered up from the largest single investigation in US history can be done with less than a thousand people? Oh right. You know you can't. So you run. We know. We know. ;-)

    As for unbelievably stupid, how about learning how to spell stupid? Spelling stupid stoopid is a sure sign of immaturity and ignorance.
     
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    Stoopid:
    Having the quality of being really, really, really, stupid.
     
  14. Patriot911

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    Stupid:

    Making up words to be an ass.

    Still can't come up with a theory involving fewer than a thousand? Not surprised. You were never serious or sincere and your posts prove this. Truthers rarely are. Your posts (*)(*)(*)(*) on the memories of all the people who died on 9/11 because they treat 9/11 like some big joke. And you wonder why people look down on truthers? Seriously? Sometimes I think truthers deserve to live in the twisted, (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up world they pretend exists today. They would never survive in it, but they would at least be right about something for once in their lives.
     
  15. 9/11 was an inside job

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    got news for ya,he has never made a post ever before that WASNT.hahahahahahaaha
    rolls on floor laughing.
     
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    All words have been made up. Tomorrow we discuss tying shoelaces.

    (I love your camp has no doubt it was carried out by 19 guys but anyone else......and it would take THOUSANDS.......lol.......)
     
  17. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    Still can't address the issue or debate the topic at hand. Very telling, SS. Very telling.

    Words make it into general use and eventually become part of the vocabulary. That doesn't change the fact it is stupid to arbitrarily make up a word just to be an ass.

    It is very simple. If 19 guys attack the US, 19 guys attack the US. When your retarded theories have things like remote control planes, controlled demolition, faked crash sites, missile attackes, energy weapons and the like all to FRAME 19 guys and completely get away with it, yes it is going to take thousands. You sit there and whine about the fact it shouldn't take thousands, yet you still have not told anyone about a theory that would not require thousands. Oh right. You're neither serious nor sincere while whining about the lack of sincerity of others. How typical.
     
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    Is Urban Dictionary one your regular sources of information?
     
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    [video=youtube;v1PBptSDIh8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1PBptSDIh8[/video]
     
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    You still haven't shown why it would take "thousands" of people.
     
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    just making sure the audience isn't overwhelmed.
     
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    By "Nazi", you mean all that we were indoctrinated to believe the "Nazi's" were. Which is pretty much the opposite of reality.

    lol That your rebuttal? Just can't help yourself, can you? You simply cannot resist the urge to lash out in frustration, like a 3rd grader, with childish insults. Feel better now? I hope so.
     
  23. Patriot911

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    Sure I have. By your own admission you turned your nose up at it and didn't read it. Not my fault you're not honest or decent enough to actually debate the topic and then whine that people haven't done what they clearly have done. The fact you can't refute the numbers and insist on (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about it only reflects poorly on you and the truthers, not me. Congrats on proving to everyone just why you're here and it isn't to be sincere or serious.

    Now, do you wish to refute my numbers or would you like to submit a conspiracy theory where it wouldn't take thousands to plan, prep, attack and cover up the crime? I didn't think so. Run along. You're good at that.
     
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    What you have done is DEMONSTRATED that you simply cannot rebut a single fact, link, article, video, or quote that I have shared throughout this entire thread.
    "Hatred"? Did somebody mention "hate filled ideology"?

    There is nothing superior to the Holy Talmud. The Talmud holds that ONLY Jews are true human beings and Gentiles are the "goyim" who are on the level with cattle and other animals.

    I guess you have no problem with any of that "hatred"? Yet you have a clear problem with my exposing their genuine hatred, lies. All the while projecting their "hatred" onto me. They can say and do as they please, but my merely reporting on their behavior somehow makes me the "hateful" one? Is that how it works?
    Simple question for you: Why have Jews been expelled 109 TIMES?
     
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    By the likes of you? Not a chance. Who can be overwhelmed by someone who can't even defend their claims or refute the claims of others? Most societies call them eunuchs because they have no balls and aren't good for much.
     

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