Gay people's opinion should not be taken into account in the marriage debate

No biological requirements of procreation for a civil marriage certificate, required or implied.

What don't you understand about this???

 

That is not true, until liberal extremists took over the power in industrialized countries marriage was always a way to regulate relationship between a man and a woman. It has nothing to do with other types of relationships.
Symbols and promises do not require licensing and regulations, because they do not affect society. Relationship between a man and a woman should be structured and organized by the government since such relationship could lead to procreation. Gay relationship has nothing to do with marriage.

 

You're entitled to hold that opinion, but it is only an opinion. Currently the government claims no authority to structure, limit, license, or regulate relationships between men and women. Kind of scary that you would prefer otherwise.​

 

My opinion is valid because it is supported by the facts. Marriage licenses has restrictions i.e. government DOES claim authority and limitations.

 

I never claimed there was such a requirement. Heterosexual couples arent encouraged to marry because they are required to procreate. They are encouraged to marry because they are the only couples who can procreate. What part dont you understand.

 

Wrong. There is no encouragement behind a marriage license. None. That is the opinion of some people, not reality or policy. Your argument has no legal basis.

 

A marriage license is not regulation of male female relations. A marriage license permits a unique kind of partnership event. Men and women have relations every day, without regulation or restriction by government. Currently the government claims no authority to structure, limit, license, or regulate relationships between men and women.​

 

LOLOLOLOL My arguments have been quite successful in courts of law where arguments are assesed on a "legal basis". My arguments are why you cant marry your girlfriend in 44 states. But of course, we know thats why you can only dismiss it.

 

I dunno, most gay people had fathers and mothers. Not all, but most. You don't necessarily need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows. And by your line of reasoning, George Bush's opinions about invading Afgh. and Iraq should have been ignored because he had no combat experience. Wait a minute, maybe you're on to something.

 

Your arguments are still opinions. There is no basis in law.

 

???? Yes there is. Opinions in court cases become the law.

 

Sometimes, but not in these cases. They simply prevented rights. Different all together. There is no law stating that a marriage license is to promote procreation. Never has been, never will be. Opinion.

 

Promote and regulate are not synonyms.

 

You used promote, not me.

 

Question...this is based off of something Melissa Etheridge said, so...

If you were told that you could avoid paying taxes (since you have unequal citizenship) because you can't get married to your partner/spouse legally but you could still have a ceremony in a church or under the moonlight...would you trade that for paying taxes but being able to get married legally?

 

nope!!!!

 

Because your intent is just to try to normalize your lifestyle and impose it on the rest of us, not to gain any real degree of "equality".

 

because gay people are all the same and are all conniving evil depraved people amirite?????????????

 

Because she said even if she had the same rights she wouldn't be content unless it's called "marriage" - so her agenda goes beyond just having "rights", she wants to force everyone to "like gays" or "accept gays" - aka political correctness.

 

I don't mean to compare the movement for homosexual rights to the civil rights movement, but there were people like you who claimed that Blacks were only looking for rights so they could shove them in white's faces.

 

Thats because laws dont state their motivations, and instead spell out their application.

 

Dont straight people impose heterosexuality? Everywhere you look? If a gay person wants to yell their homosexuality from the rafters, he/she wouldnt be doing anything different than what straight people do all the time

 

The right thrives on scare tactics and irrational fears

 

Yeah, from the California case-

Heterosexual couples for thousands of years have held an elevated status in society because they are responsible for the perpetuation of the human species. They are responsible by law to provide and care the children they themselves create. Homosexual couples DEMAND this status because they rub genitals and bring each other to orgasm, just like a real mom and dad. AS IF the rubbing of genitals and orgasms are why heterosexual couples have held an elevated status for thousands of years.

 

The color of ones skin has no impact upon their ability to vote. No impact upon their need to eat lunch at the diner, their need for an education, housing and the wide variety of discriminations that were in place against blacks. Being of the same sex renders impossible the formation of a nuclear family. Man and woman becoming husband and wife and father and mother to their children.