7 killed in terror attack on Israeli tourists in Bulgaria

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  1. OJLeb

    OJLeb New Member

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    Please somebody explain, in what way Iran benefits from killing innocent tourists? How does that help the nation at all? Even one way?

    Who does this attack really benefit?

    Definitely not Iran. Despite Netanyahu blaming Iran prematurely.

    Meanwhile, Barak the little monkey is blaming Hezbollah.

    I love how Hezbollah officials responded to the accusation.

     
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    Instigated by whom?
     
  3. JewishIsrael

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    http://www.latma.co.il/Image/large/6135-1.jpg

    still think im lying?
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep, this is why I'm inclined to interpret the blame thrown at Iran as propaganda meant to prepare us the readers for planned future warfare against Iran. By the time it starts, we'll have it firmly implanted in our minds that Iran's regime is dangerous to everyone and plainly out of control.

    Ahmadinejad often provides necessary theatrics for this scenario in his speeches, of course.
     
  5. JewishIsrael

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    when did ever any attack benfited with terrorists? almost never, but they keep doing it, because they simply hate us.
    Narak didnt blame the hezbula, he said it could have been hezbola, hamas or Iran, but belive me, Israel have one of the best intelougence services in the world, Israel is not the only who has reported that Iran had sent the terorists, yet you keep all looking up to us.
    Ofcurse you love the hezbula, who wouldnt love a terror organization sent from Iran to sit in Labanon and make peopls life missrable?!
     
  6. OJLeb

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    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4257492,00.html

    http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...-attack-against-israelis-in-bulgaria-1.452013

    http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=277989

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/explosion-rocks-israeli-tour-bus-in-bulgaria/

    Somewhat. Maybe you had good intentions, but were fed false information. I find it curious you post a picture rather than links.... But whatever.

    The 4 English "Israeli" news websites I know of are above, with articles on yesterday mornings attack. None mention the death of an 11-year old or the ages of those on the buses. Tell me why that is?
     
  7. happy fun dude

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    Don't worry about those people on the bus that got blown up. They were all working on illegal nuclear weapons. This makes them enemy combatants.

    Suicide bombers never kill innocent people. They only kill zionofascists. Somebody's gotta do the heavy lifting.

    [/justify murder]
     
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    Can JewishIsrael or Borat or anyone please explain why they have a problem with these latest events?

    Surely, if it was Iran lets say, then its only a fair response to the terrorism against Iranians in Iran that Israel was blamed for?

    So now some Israelis die and Iran gets blamed too. Its just the other side of the coin, so what is the problem here?

    Come on be fair. Lets just be happy that both sides have made their play.

    Agreed?
     
  9. OJLeb

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    Both Iran and Hezbollah denied the accusations. Terrorists do not deny when they kill innocent people. They take pride in that.

    Besides, Iran is not a terrorist group. It is a sovereign country, bound to international law, meaning the consequences of being guilty of such an act would be more extreme than if a group did this.

    And the hatred is not "simple" nor unjustifiable.

    Yes, he did.

    "The immediate executors are Hezbollah people, who of course have constant Iranian sponsorship." - Baraks comments.

    But it was obvious who would be blamed seconds after it happened. Apparently the Mossad is not that great, considering Bulgarian officials got no warnings prior to the bomb detonation.

    Actually, I think they are the only ones blaming Iran and Hezbollah.

    Bulgarian officials have not completed their investigation yet.

    Sent by Iran? My God, the lies don't stop?

    Hezbollah was formed in Southern Lebanon, by Southern Lebanese, during the "Israeli" occupation of Lebanon.

    Iran supports them, thats about it.

    And their job is to protect and defend Lebanon. Yes, that made the IDF's lives miserable in 2006 as well as the Knesset :-D
     
  10. Nikolaos

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    I seriously doubt any of those Israeli tourists were guilty of any crime warranting the death penalty. In this case I'm going to say it's almost certain they were innocent of any crime demanding such an extreme punishment and even in the unlikely scenario they were not they still deserve a fair trial.
     
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    So now they are saying the suspected bomber had a fake Michigan DL.

    How do they know that? At what pt did they determine it was fake and why didn't anyone question him about it?

    Or are we to believe they found a fake Michigan DL amongst the debris and attributed it to the attacker?

    :eyepopping:
     
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    Mossad assassinates scientists, politicians, the IDF shoot and beat children, bomb civilians, illegally administer foreign land and force its inhabitants to comply with their administration, these are all facts. Even if Iran was behind this attack, (which I highly doubt) Israel would be getting a taste of its own medicine.

    The bomber suspect is caucasian, I find it extremely difficult to believe Iran or Hezbollah would be able to hire caucasian suicide bombers, what I find more believable is that this apparent suicide bomber is more likely to be a Mossad agent carrying fake American ID planning to detonate explosives at a specific time and place in which Israel has prepared planted evidence pointing at Iran however the agent bungled the attempt and instead set off his own volatile concoction of explosives prematurely due to incompetence, failing plan A, the Zionist regime jumped to plan B and blamed Iran anyway.
     
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    First ever Suicide Bomber was a Jewish Young Lady!

    Female Jewish Bomber Murders 12 in Jerusalem

    "Girl in Red" in Bomb Horror
    Jerusalem, Thursday
    31 October 1946






    Forty minutes after a telephoned warning, the Jerusalem Railway Station was blown up yesterday. Agency reports say that at least twelve people are missing, and the station will not be able to be used for a week.

    A young Jewess described as the “Girl in Red” slipped past Arab police, held up the railway clerk at pistol point, and planted three suitcases, containing bombs, in the waiting room.
    Troops and police were rushed to the station to try and locate the bombs and a constable managed to remove one. A second exploded in his hands while he was trying to get it out of the building, wrecking the loading room and the waiting room. The police constable was killed instantly.

    In the meanwhile, the “Girl in Red” leapt into a taxi, which tore off through a hail of fire from police. In an attempt to break through the police cordon drawn around the city, the taxi roared through twisting lanes in the Jewish slum quarters.

    It is thought that the taxi must have stopped briefly to let the girl out, because when it was finally cornered near the walls of the Old City, she was not in it. The only occupants were three Jews, two of whom were wounded. There was a quantity of explosives and hand-grenades under the flooring of the taxi.

    Police took in charge the bullet riddled, bloodstained taxi, scoured the adjacent Montefiore quarter, and arrested another Jew who was found wounded in a nearby house. They also held ten other suspects including a girl dressed in red, who is being questioned in an attempt to establish the identity of the girl who planted the bombs.

    Although earlier agency reports mentioned at least 12 missing, the only fatality so far mentioned in the official version is the police officer. He was a demolition expert. Reuters in Jerusalem says that police and troops last night were still searching the debris at the station for further casualties.

    After the explosion, an Irgun Zvai Leumi (terrorist) spokesman, broadcasting over the secret radio “Voice of Fighting Zion”, said: “The Jews are at war. Only arms will decide Palestine’s future, not an election.”

    Final death toll is 12, with 11 injured. The Female Jewish terrorist has been identified as
    Sima Fleishhaker-Hoizman



    Source: The Daily New, Perth, Western Australia
    31 October 1946
     
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    The only muslims in Bulgaria are the Pomaks ( ancient Thracian tribe that speaks Bulgarian ) and i doubt they have the mindset of a Middle Easterner , i have been in the country a couple of times and passed from their villages they don't ask and they don't care.

    Same thing happen to a bus with Greek tourists in Egypt few years ago and more than 20 died yet we didn't start pointing fingers are freedom fighters , terrorists or third countries it was just a lunatic that killed vacationers .
     
  15. Uri

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    Come on..
    I remember debating with you a few months ago, you were a lot smarter then what you are trying to do now.
    You know the differences.
     
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    What do you mean?
    Who started the violence?
    Depends on the views of the person.
     
  17. Uri

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    What did Iran/Hezbolla benefitted from this?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_AMIA_bombing

    (Please don't tell me that It is not certain that both are responsibe. they are.)

    This is war.
    Innocents get hurt.
    Not on purpose by the israeli side, On purpose by everyone else.
     
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    Setting aside the fact that being blamed for and being guilty of are two entirely different things - Israel does not target innocent civilians and the enemy's nuclear weapons scientists working on a clandestine illegal program to build nuclear weapons indended to annihilate Israel are not 'civilians' by any stretch of imagination. You may agree or disagree with these assassinations but murdering innocent women and children is hardly an appropriate retaliation, it's a mere demonstration of the savagery, backwardness and brutality of Israel's enemies.
     
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    Enlarging the text and making it red doesn't help trying to pin suicide on this bomber. Have you totally lost it since you were exposed peddling Islamist hate propaganda?
     
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    Israel has been killing innocent civilians on a regular basis for decades. This is no secret to anyone with eyes and ears.

    Apologists use words like "collateral damage" in order sweeten the bad taste of these actions but it is killing of innocents all the same.

    A large percentage of the Israeli population are against these actions and even those in the military that have to carry out these actions.

    Here is a quote from 27 Israeli pilots who stood up against the extremist policies of the Israeli Government:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/sep/25/israel

    This is a blood feud and both sides are guilty of killing of innocents.

    It is those who try and apologise for these actions that are on the side of the extremists.

    Folks need to stop doing this and start calling a spade a spade.
     
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    Israel has targetted iranian scientists in assissnations.

    That had only one logical or illogical conclusion. That it would be answered in kind and now jews are killed.
     
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    Collateral damage is the term used by the Geneva convention, not by apologists and regrettably it's expected during military operations or wars. The difference is between deliberately targetting civilians and doing everything possible to avoid/minimize civilian casualties while achieving military objectives. But you already knew all that, did not you?

    PS I am glad you backed off your "israel is doing political assassionations" slander although your latest accusation is just as empty. But hey, keep throwing mud at the wall, perhaps some will stick.
     
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    Personnaly, the jews have brought this on themselves. They routinely kill palestine people. And that happens so often, it is part of everyday news. So why feel concerned when jews are killed in response?
     
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    Definitely not, its been almost 20 years and there is still no evidence to prove Hezbollah or Iran had anything to do with this.

    Conveniently the attack yesterday was on the same day as this one. Ironically there is no proof Hezbollah or Iran were responsible for that attack either, and they denied any involvement.

    If this was war, they wouldn't deny such things. After all, what is the point of doing something like this if you are going to deny it afterwards?
     
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    And imprison their children, never let them see their parents again, and have turned Gaza into an open air concentration camp.

    The part I find most disgusting, is that these people are now dead, and the vile Netenyahu just cannot wait to turn it into political capital, for the ends of Jewish extremism, can he? A decent human being would have chosen his words carefully, but this thing is just an insensitive swine, he doesn't really care that these people died, he probably thinks it is a good thing.

    How dare this Jew, a leader no less, accuse a sovereign nation of being behind this.

    Note how Jews going into meltdown if you imply they may be behind ANYTHING. Ever.

    USS Liberty? More evidence of Israel being behind that, than there is Iran being behind these attacks.

    Much more.

    By the same powers of reasoning as Netenyahu, the US should retropsectively seek retribution against Israel.

    Moderate Israeli's really need to get rid of this guy, and all that he represents, and find some better people.

    He is doing them no favours, zero people skills, he just strikes me as a very ignorant and obnoxious man.

    They must have someone more eloquent and less stupid.

    Surely.
     

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