Gay people's opinion should not be taken into account in the marriage debate

But those restrictions are not relevant, they do not reflect purpose of regulation and licensing.

 

It's illegal to drive without a drivers license. It's not illegal to procreate without a marriage license. You're confused about the purpose of a marriage license.​

 

NO They are not!
In case of heterosexual sterile couple you have to determine first whether they are legally sterile, i.e. it requires special law.
In case of homosexual couple no special law is required.

 

No it isn't. that's why the ability or intention to procreate is not required.

irrelevant to the topic.

not everything is incoherant, just the majority of your posts.

 

No it is perfectly LEGAL to drive without license if you are no your private territory. You have confused yourself.

 

this is called a circular argument.

 

If this were true, than there would be no reason to prohibit gays from marrying because they cannot procreate. But sadly this isn't true as much as I'd like it to be.

This is by far the worst analogy ever. You need a drivers license to drive. You don't need a "sex" license to procreate.

When did I say the purpose of a driver license is to promote driving? Where did I say the purpose of a marriage license is to promote marriage? You're pulling all of this incoherent nonsense out of your ass and none of it makes any sense.

 

It is relevant because it demonstrate absence of your basic thinking ability.

 

The purpose of requiring someone to demonstrate they are marrying of their own free will, is to regulate procreation? The purpose of denying a marriage license to a 4 year old, is to regulate procreation? Can you offer any evidence of these assertions?​

 

Translation: You won't own your previous comments and explain them like an honest debater would. I will be the one who decides whether or not to consider you an enemy. What I require to make that decision is for you to explain what you meant. If you won't do that, then guess what my assumption will be, "good luck" wishes notwithstanding.

 

But there is no special law in place to corroborated your claim that marriage is about procreation. So I don't see how you think this lends any credence to your argument.

 

I just proved that they are.

no such determination is required, because the ability or intention to procreate has never been required in order to marry. that's why your argument is self defeating.

this is incoherant.

 

No one prohibit gays from marrying. Marriage has nothing to do with gays.
You can drive without license in the privacy of your home the same way as you can procreate.

 

Actually, there are laws in some states that expressly prohibit gays from marrying.

And you cannot operate a motor vehicle ANYWHERE without a permit or license.

 

I was viewing a documentary about rome. Ironically on subject with this topic. nothing has changed in thousands of years. The homosexual need was there but at the side of society. they proberly had citizens asking the same. To make it legal in glorified democracy. And banged their heads to that brick wall.

I do find it wonderful. That some people want to go against the tide of history and fight a life long battle with legal marriage. Or maybe they are just fired up on forums.

 

You are so filled with misconceptions and myths that anything you have to say on this subject is meaningless. Educate yourself and then get back to us.

 

No, it's not relevant.

and my thinking ability is perfectly fine. your ability to make a coherant post however.................

 

I have never understood that logic since most gay people are born to "straight" parents, and straight (and/or macho) behavior didn't turn gay kids straight, so why would gay behavior turn straight kids gay?

 

That is obvious isn't it.

That parents want their children to provide grandkids. And no matter how tolerant someone is. To learn their child is gay. Will sting. And will have to deal with that natural realisation.

The view of the fear of turning kids gay, isn't so knee jerk. It is based in natural evolution. Ie to protect offspring. Which is why even in our modern age. The view of homosexuality is so complicated.

 

44 states currently prohibit gays from marrying.

dozens of countries have gay marriage. including six states in this one.

meaningless statement.

 

4510.12 Operating a motor vehicle without a valid license.
(A)(1) No person, except those expressly exempted under sections 4507.03, 4507.04, and 4507.05 of the Revised Code, shall operate any motor vehicle upon a public road or highway or any public or private property used by the public for purposes of vehicular travel or parking in this state unless the person has a valid driver’s license issued under Chapter 4507. of the Revised Code or a commercial driver’s license issued under Chapter 4506. of the Revised Code.

 

OFFICE OF THE WAYNE COUNTY CLERK
Coleman A. Young Municipal Center
2 Woodward Avenue, Room 201 Detroit, MI 48226 (313) 224-5515
MARRIAGE LICENSE APPLICATION INFORMATION
Please Print At least one of the parties must appear in person to apply. You must pay in cash when you apply.
Cathy M. Garrett
Wayne County Clerk
A Marriage License is Good For 33 DAYS ONLY From The Date of Application
____________________________________________
Telephone # Wedding Date
Full Name of Male (first, middle, last)
Street Address
City, State and Zip Code
Residence County
______________________
Present Age Date of Birth
_________________________
Times Previously Married Social Security Number
Birthplace - City and State
Father’s Full Name
Father’s Birthplace
Mother’s Full Maiden Name Before First Married
Mother’s Birthplace
MALE
Full Name of Female (first, middle, last)
Female Maiden Name Before First Married, If Different
Street Address
City, State and Zip Code
Residence County
______________________
Present Age Date of Birth
_________________________
Times Previously Married Social Security Number
Birthplace - City and State
Father’s Full Name
Father’s Birthplace
Mother’s Full Maiden Name Before First Married
Mother’s Birthplace
FEMALE

That's it. That is all the is required by the government. From that come over 1000 government benefits, family security, and a term recognizable everywhere.

 

Wayne County??? Gaymom, are you also from the "D"????

Tell you what, you move to my area, get married and I'll help you take it to the courts.

 

Did you even read that? You know? The part about not being able to drive on private property?

 

Also this lack of regulation and legality with gay marriage. Should be embraced for what it is. Ie no messy court problems.

In many regards the historical state of lack of homosexual rights. Seems more appealing than divorce. Simply walk away. No hard feelings.