Hitler on the Atomic Bomb

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    Hitler on the Atomic Bomb

    This is what Hitler said to colonel Skorzeny, the man who rescued Mussolini from Gran Sasso:
    "When Dr. Todt visited me I read that the energy set free by such a bomb could destroy an area as large as the state of Arizona or make as big a crater as the meteor had caused in Siberia. That means that all life within such an area would be destroyed, not only humans but all life, but animals and plants would not be able to live within a radius of 40 km for hundreds of years due to radiation. That would mean an Apocalypse. No land, no group of civilized people could bear the responsibility for such a slaughter. In battle after battle human beings would destroy themselves if such a bomb were used."


    http://www.thenewsturmer.com/Histori...d_not_want.htm

    Because it is the Atomic Bomb that threatens all life on Earth Hitler refused to use it. But the jew has no problem with destroying all of mankind.

    Jews & The Atom Bomb
    An extraordinary number of 20th century Jewish scientists were drawn into the field of nuclear research. As the Nazi dragnet tightened, dozens of them fled Europe and joined the USA's Manhattan Project, which built and detonated the first atomic bomb in July 1945.


    Albert Einstein in 1921 Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity paved the way for investigation into nuclear fission. In 1939 he urged President Roosevelt to build an atomic bomb before Nazi Germany. In later years he opposed the use of atomic weapons.

    Leo Szilard (1898-1964), born in Budapest, helped Enrico Fermi conduct the first controlled nuclear chain reaction. He later demanded curbs on atomic weapons.

    Niels Bohr (1885-1962) was the first to apply quantum theory to explain nuclear structure. Born in Denmark to a Christian father and Jewish mother, Bohr worked with Ernest Rutherford in Britain. He won a Nobel Prize in 1922, and narrowly escaped Denmark in 1943, pursued by Nazis. He worked on the Manhattan Project with his son Aage, yet also sought to limit the spread of nuclear weapons.

    Lise Meitner (1878-1968) was born in Vienna and became a pioneer of research into nuclear fission. She analysed the results with her nephew, Otto Frisch.

    Enrico Fermi (1901-1954) was born in Rome. With Walter Zinn Fermi directed the first controlled nuclear chain reaction in 1942 at the University of Chicago.


    J Robert Oppenheimer J. Robert Oppenheimer (1904-1967), US-born theoretical physicist, was chosen to direct the Manhattan Project at Los Alamos in 1942. On July 16, 1945, his team exploded the world's first atomic bomb. Three months later he resigned as project director and opposed development of the H-bomb. Oppenheimer was accused of Communist sympathies by the McCarthyites, but was exonerated.

    Hungarian-born Edward Teller led the US team that developed the first hydrogen bomb. Considerably more powerful than the atomic bomb, the H-bomb uses nuclear fusion rather than fission. The first H-bomb was exploded in 1952. Teller later strongly advocated the need for Western nuclear superiority.

    In the late 1950s and early 1960s the Labor politician Shimon Peres launched Israel's nuclear energy (and arms) program near Dimonah in the Negev Desert. In the 1980s, Mordechai Vanunu, a Moroccan immigrant working at Dimonah, told British newspapers about Israel's secret nuclear arms capability. He was abducted by the Mossad (Israeli intelligence service), convicted of treason and incarcerated in Israel.

    Joseph Rotblat (b. 1908), a Polish-born British physicist, won the 1995 Nobel Peace Prize for his continuing work with the anti-war Pugwash Conferences group. He had quit the Manhattan Project in 1944, and in 1955 joined Bertrand Russell and Einstein in advocating nuclear disarmament and world peace.

    Jews have played a disproportionately large role as pioneers of atomic weaponry, and advocates of disarmament.
     
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    Jews are smarter than nazis? it's about time you admitted that.
     
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    The Manhattan project cost us $30 billion to achieve the atomic bomb by 1945, it involved 125,000 people in that project. There is strong evidence to support the Nazis achieved almost the same thing earlier on with a fraction of the cost and a small number of scientists. The evidence points to tests they did from 1944-45.

    As to why they did not use it is uncertain. I personally find it hard to believe it was for humanitarian reasons. I think the initial tests simply did not do enough damage and they were still not "fully thee" though they certainly achieved a monumental point at a fraction of the cost and a hand full of people involved. To say the Nazis were not smart enough is a major mistake imo.
     
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    We should pause for a moment and be grateful they came to the US when they did.
     
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    The bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was against civilians, you jews obviously have no problem with that. Most of the Japanese military was in China at the time and survived. It is ashamed that through the jew controlled media dragged us to that level. You are the reason we went to war with Germany in the first place. Just see what Henry Ford, Charlse Linbergh, George Patten Walt Disney and so many other Geat Americans had to say.

    Truth about fluoride doesn't include Nazi myth.

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    Still, do an Internet search for "fluoride" and "Nazis," and you'll find articles such as "Nazi Connections to Fluoride in America's Drinking Water." The text appears on various sites, and includes the citations "Stephen 1995," and "Bryson 2004."

    It's called "Fluoridation: Mind Control of the Masses?" And in it we meet government research worker Charles Eliot Perkins, who at the end of World War II purportedly learned from a big German chemical producer that it had developed a plan to fluoridate occupied countries.

    "Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him," says a document quoted in the excerpt. "Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

    "Bryson 2004" is Christopher Bryson, an investigative reporter and television producer who reported on Guatemalan human rights abuses for the BBC World Service, National Public Radio and the Atlanta Journal Constitution in the 1980s, and later wrote a book called The Fluoride Deception. It delves into murky connections between military-industrial fluoride polluters and the early push for public water fluoridation.

    His book mentions Nazis or Nazism less than 10 times, and none of the references discuss water fluoridation. We contacted him.

    "I never came across any documentation or credible information showing that fluoride was used in Nazi death camps," he said.

    • • •

    In 2009, two scientists published a book called The Fluoride Wars: How a Modest Public Health Measure Became America's Longest Running Political Melodrama.

    The hydrologists dedicate more than 30 pages to conspiracy theories and their origins. We contacted one of them.

    "The World War II death camp statement is an absurd lie," said Jay Lehr, who has authored or co-authored more than 30 books, most of them self-described "boring science books for scientists."

    The Fluoride Wars instead presents a lively social history of the fluoridation debate in the United States.

    And it starts with the first large-scale fluoridation in history, not in Europe, but in Grand Rapids, Mich., in 1945.

    • • •

    Given the topic, it seems appropriate to conclude with Wikipedia, where we found mention of Nazis and fluoride — in an article listing conspiracy theories: Fluoridation is alternately part of a "Communist, Fascist or New World Order or Illuminati plot to take over the world." It was "pioneered by a German chemical company to make people submissive to those in power." It was "used in Russian prison camps and produces schizophrenia."

    Our Holocaust historian knew of no such project. Two book authors who researched the topic, one a journalist, the other a hydrologist, found no credible evidence of such a connection. A leading anti-fluoridation activist repudiates the story. The most commonly cited Web source for the story was a 16-year-old extract in a fringe Australian publication. So we can confidently declare this claim Pants on Fire!

    http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...ude-nazi-myth/

    In ancient times the Jews were often accused of "poisoning the wells" of the rest of society.

    The Fluoride Deception is real. It's real purpose is to protect the Industrial War complex from lawsuits related to the production of the atomic bomb. As a side result, it is also responsible for the slow poisoning of millions of people throughout the United States and in other parts of the world, through water fluoridation.

    Since it was jews who were primarily responsible for creating the atomic bomb it is jews who also controlled the media hype on flouride as well as making flouride as a waste product through production of the atomic bomb.
     
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    Werner Heisenberg was in charge of Germany's nuclear weapons programme but his team stopped short of completing the project due to the lack of resources and nuclear physicists and Heisenberg never overcame certain misconceptions about nuclear fission and when he and his colleagues were interned in England and heard about Hiroshima, Heisenberg realised that his calculations were wrong.
     
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    Hitler's sparkling wit and personality drove a large percentage of Germany and Europe's best physicists to Britain and the U.S.

    There the superior industrial nation produced what Germany tried and failed to produce.

    Hitler would have dropped the A-Bomb on London laughing and dancing the jig if he could have done so.
     
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    This is hilarious- a huge fluoride conspiracy.
     
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    You Jews? You are such a sad little man who has absolutely no understanding of history other than your make believe fiction you wish to believe.
     
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    Hitler might have been able to achieve an atomic bomb, given Germany's scientific and industrial base- the thing that prevented that from happening was Hitler's megalomania, racism and idiocy.
     
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    Knowing the character of Adolf Hitler and his love for humanity and animals it is not in his character to want to destroy mankind. He even let the Brits escape at Dunkirk. Hitler will in in the public mind because of this. Also where is the nuclear fallout fom any atomic bomb factories in Gemany. There is none.

    The Hydrogen bomb is over 10,000 times the strength of the bombs dropped on Japan and just one would aniliate eveything in an area the size of Arizona and threaten even the rest of the southwest with fallout. (*)(*)(*)(*) using this kind of weapon is just what the christians and jews always wanted the End of the World.

    Hitler initially did not even want the use of aircraft in warfare. Hitler was a true Aryian Warrior and wanted to fight on the ground.

    I am sure that you could find the "facts" you are looking fo at wikipedia if you really want to persist.
     
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    The birth defects as well as an extreemly high cancer rate in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still going on. The Nuclear problem from the Nuclear testing in the US are still effecting us. Every day there is more and more nuclear waste being dumpted in our country as throughout the world. The jewish curse of atomic energy will eventually end all life on earth. Even without nuclear war the nuclear power plants will all eventually deteriorate and the possibility of us ever going back to a nuclear free world is now impossible because of the constant requirement of maintaing all the (*)(*)(*)(*)en nuclear material can never stop for at least 10,000 years. (*)(*)(*)(*) The Jews have truely screwed this world.
     
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    Yep, after killing all millions and bombing civilians, he stands as a great humanitarian. LOL
     
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    Nice propaganda. To bad it is all wrong.

    Hitler refused to allow any research into the Atomic Bomb because to him it was "Jewish Science". Plain and simple. Plus he threw out the scientists who understood the potential and how to get there more then anybody else.

    But you can't pain him as some kind of saintly image who refused to persue it for humanitarian reasons. Because he ordered the development, production and use of far more chemical weapons then anybody else in the conflict. If he was really such a humanitarian, he would never have ordered the whosale manufacturing and use of such gasses as Sarin and Zyklon B.
     
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    You know, it works much better if you actually bring some proof with you, instead of making things up as you go.

    Physicians appointed by ABCC examined 76,626 infants conceived and born in Hiroshima and Nagasaki over a period of six years starting from the late spring of 1948. The researchers did not see statistically demonstrable increase in major birth defects in these infants. While the survey started, certain dietary staples were rationed in Japan. Pregnant women had special provisions. Because of this, the surveyors of new-borns could identify 90 per cent of the pregnancies that persisted for at least 20 weeks of gestation.

    Physical examination of the new born and autopsies on as many stillborn infants revealed that neither the frequency of major birth defects nor the frequency of the most common birth defects differ significantly with radiation exposure of parents. The researchers examined some 21,788 infants shortly after birth and re-examined them eight to ten months later. The study covered 65,431 registered pregnancy terminations and appropriate control populations.

    Till 1990, RERF recorded 7827 cancer deaths in the survivor population of just over 86,000. Radiation exposure might have caused 421 excess cancers. Of the 17 types of cancers considered, survivors suffered excesses in 16; at lower radiation levels the risk of cancer has not been demonstrated. The cellular repair mechanisms play a role at all levels. A few `mavericks' believe that low level radiation exposure is beneficial to man. They assert that radiation safety professionals have a vested interest in arguing that radiation is risky at any level. They ignore the fact that the assumption of risk at low level radiation is advocated as a matter of abundant caution.


    http://www.hindu.com/2001/09/06/stories/08060003.htm
     
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    Let's examine your beliefs. The weapons dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki were somewhere in the range of 12-20 kilotons. For the sake of analysis can we agree to use 20KT? Let's compare it to a 20 megaton (20MT) burst.

    A 20 KT burst will completely level urban terrain out to about a half kilometer radius from the burst.
    A 20 MT burst will completely level urban terrain out to about a six and a half kilometers radius from the burst.

    Arizona is somewhat bigger than 13 kilometers across. Shall we go on?

    A 20 KT burst will cause moderate damage in urban terrain out to about a two kilometer radius from the burst.
    A 20 MT burst will cause moderate damage in urban terrain out to about a fifty kilometer radius from the burst.

    Arizona is somewhat bigger than 100 kilometers across.

    Fallout occurs when the fireball touches the ground or breaks the surface if the explosion begins underground. The fireball need not touch the ground.
     
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    The Germans put more emphasis on jet technology and rockets than nuclear...what the U.S. spent on developing and building working atomic bombs, Germany devoted
    to rockets.

    They simply ran out of time towards building anything on the level of what was dropped on Japan. They had the resources and scientists, just not the will...but rest
    assured had Germany developed "the bomb' first, they would have used it.

    Fortunately for the sane World...Germany was bombed, burned, strafed, and torpedoed...into submission.

    As bad as the Soviets may have been, they never used an atomic or hydrogen bomb on people once they developed the technology...the Nazi's would not have blinked to use nuclear fission or fusion technology to take out innocent people who stood in the way of the 1,000 year Reich.

    A bomber capable of reaching the continental United States was on the drawing board...imagine this advanced bomber loaded out with an atomic bomb...

    New York, New York....turning into Hiroshima.

    The Nazi's would not have hesitated to target NYC, to get America out of Europe...
     
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    But it is OK for jews to say anything they want but if any National Socialist puts out the truth you jews are all over it. You do have control of all the media and have the stupid jew god jesus christian blood cult on your side and even made the A-bomb to destroy us all. Hitler was our only hope.
     
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    I am quite certain you are living in the past.
     
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    A Coalition of combined US Military is ordered to take no order from any foreign command including any American jew. And Futher odered to resist and fight against all foreign invaders AKA the UN. Spread the word to all military personell.
     
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    BS Hitler was trying to make an atomic weapon, he didn't get one because the Allies destroyed the only supply of Uranium that he had, and he had to conquer another country to get it.
     
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    Can you tell me more? Would you ;point to the studies that show what extremely high means?

    In your opinion where is nuclear waste being dumped in the US?

    Why do you think this?

    Why would we want a nuclear free earth?

    Serious question: should you be medicated?
     
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    Does this answer that stupid question. All countries should stop all nuclear developement like Germany is doing even nuclear power plants. But we still have to maintain the nuclear waste already created what a fine mess these jewish scientists have gotten us in to,

    Tsar Bomba - Largest Nuclear Device Ever Tested (50MT)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9AMtUeyDP0
     
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    Exactly. The Nazis never overcame two problems: logistics after the Allies destroyed the heavy water plant in Norway; and theoretical impotence. Hitler had two atomic weapons programs, one under Heisenberg, and the other under some SS-officer with a lastname Russell. When the Allies raided Heisenberg's facilities, they described his research as "a child that was never conceived", meaning he was on a wrong track and never got to a reasearch stage such as one concerning reflecting lenses etc. Russell's research seemed more advanced since he did seem to have developed a dirty bomb, but Nazis lacked the industrial power to enrich uranium sufficiently to obtain weapon grades. At the time, the only known way to purify uranium was to run it through powerful magnetic fields atom by atom where U-235 would get deflected more than U-238. In U.S. this required 10% of the nation's entire electricity consumption. Even if Russell obtained sufficient amounts of weapons grade uranium, he still faced theoretical problems never overcome by Nazi scientists of developing a device to obtain a critical mass.
     
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    If this is in response to my 'stupid question" the answer is no. It does not answer any of them. Let me collect them together and try again:
    1. With regard to Hiroshima and Nagasaki you said there is an extremely high cancer rate going on today. I asked what extremely high means.
    2. With regard to dumping nuclear waste in the US I asked where you believe nuclear wastes are being dumped.
    3. You said that atomic energy will eventually end all life on earth. I asked you why you believe this.
    4. You implied a nuclear-free world would be better than the world we actually have. I asked you why you believe this.
    5. Finally, I asked a serious question of you.


    So you have given us your value judgment that we humans should stop developing nuclear power. Would you give your reason why you have this value judgment and not some other value judgment?
     

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