Based on the Issues - Which Presidential Candidate Represents You?

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    Thanks for sharing this Shiva

    Interesting to punch in the issues and see how they line up by the candidate- I actually expected Romney to fair better for me.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't really care about the issues this political season - so long as Obama is out of the White House, I'll be happy. This guy scares me (*)(*)(*)(*)less with his work ethics and his eagerness to bend over and grab the ankles every time there's someone of importance in attendance...

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    I'd be more likely to support Alexander than any of them, with Stein probably coming in a close second. Obama wouldnt even be a consideration. I couldnt really answer some of the questions completely honestly.
     
  6. reckoning

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    Of course if my boy Ron Paul!!!
     
  7. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That too. Everyone rails against socialism but the biggest social welfare program on the planet is our total military spending.

    I am not saying that we do not need a strong military .. but we take in a total of 2.1 Trillion (450 goes to interest payments on our debt leaving us with 1.65 Trillion to spend without incurring more debt)

    Total military spending is nearly 1 Trillion. 1 Trillion out of 1.65 Trillion is absurd.
     
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    fifthofnovember Well-Known Member

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    No surprise there.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yep, 10 years after trickle down fully implemented... here we are
     
  11. IndieVisible

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    Wow, I was even surprised lol.


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  12. Kurmugeon

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    Looks to me like a bunch of stealth Obama supporters still trying to swaying people in the RossPerot repeat spoiler candidate campaign tactic...


    Sorry, I won't waste my vote on the 3rd party candidate which will only put Obama back where he will be unrestrained by an upcomming election to do fatal damage to America.
     
  13. IndieVisible

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    Come on you know you want to vote for Ron Paul. Let's face it there really is no difference between Obama and Romney. You should vote for him as a write in or go Libertarian! :)
     
  14. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    No, the next president will be either Obama or Romney.

    Another four years of Obama would be a disaster for America and an even bigger disaster for my five grandchildren.

    Romney is not perfect, but he is substantially the lesser of two evils.

    If nothing else, he doesn't have four years of entrenched corruption, and he is restrained by the potential of facing re-election in four years.


    Obama has been a big mistake, another four years would be the final blow to the American Economy, it would not recover in my lifetime, or my childrens, and probably not in my grandchildrens.
     
  15. IndieVisible

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    You do realize that Obama used Romney Care as his model? And if elected Romney promised to repeal Obama Care and replace it. Ask yourself with what? Basically it will be a name change :)
     
  16. Kurmugeon

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    Let's say, for the sake of argument, that there is absolutely no difference in public health care insurance policy between Romney and Obama. ( I don't believe that for a second, but its a thought experiment )

    Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Obama's plan for creating middle class jobs would work fantastically, and Romney's would fail utterly. ( Again, hardly a reasonable expectation )

    For myself and the majority of my family, we'd still be considerably better off under Romney than under Obama.

    Robert Riche said it best, "We don't want these stimulus jobs going to white men...".

    Romney is allot of things I don't like, but he's not a Black Liberation Theologist RACIST who will appoint the likes of Andy Van Jones, Bill Ayers, Valerie Jarett, or Eric Holder to his cabinet.

    Romney, and his cabinet and government agency appointees, won't keep what few jobs there are from myself and my family members just because of our Paint-Job and Plumbing.

    Obama HAS and un-restrained by another election would do even more.

    No, America will be much better off under Romney.



    We need a Commander-in-Chief, not a Racist and Thief.
     
  17. IndieVisible

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    I'm sorry you feel that way. It's also unfortunate that you have to vote for some one you do not like to get rid of some one you hate.
     
  18. Kurmugeon

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    I do not hate President Obama.

    I do fear, reject and loath Goverment Institutionalized Racial Discrimination.

    I do hate the Trillion$ in new national debt created over the last four years.

    I do hate Objectives of the far left, such as Carbon Credits for a false enviromental agenda, Never Ending Racial Prefernces, Transformation of America into a State Controled Economy, and Confiscation of privately owned firearms.

    Like a parent disiplining a wayward and self-distructive child, I don't hate the people, I hate what they're trying to do to the country.
     
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    Voting for the lesser of two evils is like asking: Which gang would be better for my neighborhood? Bloods or Crips? One might be a little better then the other one(and that's relative), but in the end you are still getting raped and robbed by thugs.
     
  20. Kurmugeon

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    Some Thugs will Rape your family in front of you, kill them, and then rob and kill you.


    Some Thugs will just Rob you.


    Yes, it does make a difference.



    Look, the whole point of what I'm saying:


    Even IF the Obama campaign managed to convince me that their plan would result in lots of government jobs and handout goodies...


    If don't fracken matter, because as a Pale-Male, I know I won't "Qualify" for anything but the tax bill.




    Socialism might actually work, if it were not combined with Institutionalized Racial Descrimination.


    But Obama is exactly the opposite of color blind.


    The Obama Democrats need to go, NOW!


    I'll worry about the abuse the Republicans will foist on me AFTER the Racists are gone.
     
  21. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    While this thread is overwhelmingly about members checking out how their political position on the issues align with the political candidates I would remind everyone of a simple historical fact.

    Historically Presidents do less damage to America in their second terms than they do in their first. This is true even when we go back to FDR where virtually all of the actions he took that opponents condemn virtually all occured in his first term. We can fast forward to former President Bush and virtually all of his actions that are condemned from the enhance interrogation techniques (torture), the Patriot Act, denial of due process of the law, and the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq all originated in his first term.

    We can also look back historically and generally speaking each successive president has been worse than the one before.

    We can look at Obama and he engaged in excessive deficit spending and managed to get "Obamacare" passed in his first term. While it might be hard to say that this was "worse" that former President Bush it certainly was as far as government spending goes.

    In their second terms normally presidents tend to be less tyrannical in their actions and actually start to work for the People as opposed to against them. This is true when we look at former President Bush, Clinton and Reagan.

    Romney has already exposed himself as opposing equal protection under the law for same-gender couples (i.e. he wants to attack civil liberties in America in violation of the 14th Amendment) and he is a corporate elitist which is about enriching the wealthy as opposed to caring about the average person (i.e. he's not for free markets but instead for corporate markets controlled and benefiting the wealthy) and we can assume, based upon history, that he will be worse for American than Obama in a second term just like Obama was worse than Bush's first term but not worse than Bush in his second term.

    It is a simple fact of history.......... Of course I reject both Romney and Obama because they will both be bad for America regardless of which one might be elected so I won't vote for either of them. I refuse to select between the lesser of two evils.
     
  22. Giftedone

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    That would be "Tricky Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld"

    Obama

    I like your analogy but you have your villian priority mixed up.

    Not sure where you are going with the "institutionalized racial discrimination" .. affirmative action was set in place long before Obama and I did not see Bush doing anything to change it nor Obama changing things much. In the big picture it is a relatively small issue.
     
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    Obama came into office with the economy in free fall the worst recession in 80 years with a deficit that was already ballooning to a trillion dollars. That spending was driven by events beyond his control in a budget year that was already well underway.

    Since that time, Obama was the first president in many decades to actually decrease spending in a year, and his annual average increase has been lower than any president on record I am aware of. Furthermore, he has offered to put trillions in spending cuts including Dem sacred cows SS and Medicare as part of a budget deal rejected by obstructionist Republicans who wouldn't budget a dime on revenue increases, even though revenues are proportionately the lowest in 60 years adn $800 billion lower than in 2000.

    You're unfairly giving Obama a bad rap, IMO.
     
  24. Brewskier

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    You recycle the same tired set of talking points in every thread you participate in. If you really want to defend Obama, why not take on a real challenge?

    218 reasons to NOT vote for Obama/
     
  25. Phoebe Bump

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    I'd take the quiz but the candidates' positions will change by tomorrow. What good is that?
     

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