Intolerance of intolerance

I try really hard to be respectful of other people's beliefs. I may disagree but I try to respect what they believe. The one thing I have a VERY hard time with is people who are extremely intolerant of others. I find this especially relevant of homosexuals in this day and age. The far religious right just seems to really judge gay people and be very intolerant of them in general. Now, I am a HUGE supporter of the First Amendment. I will defend anyone's right to Free Speech. But I also will exercise my right to call someone a judgmental, hateful, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

I guess you could say I am extremely intolerant of people who are intolerant. I also get VERY irritated when I hear someone say "well people want me to be tolerant but they are not tolerant of MY opinions. And I think gay people are sinners, deserve to be discriminated against, have a mental disorder, are disgusting, etc. God doesn't love them. They are going to Hell and deserve it." Why would someone think that people should be tolerant of that opinion. Yes, people are welcome to have but just like any supremacist group they puts out hate, they should expect hate back. And why do they do it in the name of God. I certainly don't subscribe to the Christian concept of God but doesn't Jesus say it is wrong to judge your fellow man?? So why do so many so called "Christians" do it?? How can people sleep at night knowing that they are being so hateful to their fellow man? Isn't this against Jesus' teachings?

I really hope if there is a Heaven that all gays get in and these judgmental bigots don't.

 

Why do you get yourself so worked up over the opinion of others?

Do they come up to you on the street and tell you their thoughts? Or do you actively pursue conflicts with those who don't like gays?

 

Not the way you mean it, no. That's pretty obvious to anyone who has read some of the choice words He had for the pharisees.

The irony escapes you, no doubt.

 

With all of the gay marriage battles going on, it is hard to avoid. I HATE the hypocrisy of Christianity. It is one of the reasons I left the church (along with the fact I started to realize that none of the teachings made any sense).

But I really don't understand how supposedly devout people reconcile their rationalization of treatment of fellow human beings this way. And I don't understand why a segment of the population considers it okay. If people made the same comments about someone of color they would be really be taken to task.

I have seen A LOT of it on this forum, especially and it has really gotten me thinking about it. I am just really surprised (I guess) that there are people here that don't even attempt to tamp down their bigotry.

 

Behold the facepalm worthy irony and hypocrisy inherent in liberalism.

 

See, this is what I mean. People want to be bigoted and intolerant towards others based on their sexual orientation (or race) but when they get called out on it they start yowling like a scalded cat. "I deserve TOLERANCE!!!"

You know what? I don't WANT to be tolerant toward hateful bigots.

But again, how do people who pride themselves on their religion reconcile this behavior? I at least admit I do not believe in God and Jesus. So I feel like if I want to heartily dislike someone because they are a bigot then at least I don't have to worry about a religious figure telling me I should love my fellow man.

 

Your post is full to the brim with hypocrisy. You are so amazingly blind to it that putting you on ignore may be the only option. I do, however, ask you to analyze this video, and explain to me how it fits with your unbelievably misguided diatribe:

[video=youtube;fp23XtQSVpQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp23XtQSVpQ[/video]

 

You can't have it both ways. If you want to go around calling yourself a tolerant person, you need to learn how to tolerate people who have different viewpoints than you do. You, like many liberals, simply resort to calling someone a "bigot" in order to justify your own intolerance of that person's viewpoints. It's hypocrisy to the highest degree, but self-righteousness blinds liberals to that fact.

 

From this we may reasonably surmise that your abode is innocent of mirrors.

Is that what you did when you were a "Christian"?

Because that would explain a lot.

The problem is, you don't understand the Gospels and never did.

 

: I see I have the attention of the people who have issues with gay people.

I have a good friend who is VERY religious but she is not judgmental at all. She says flat out that it is not her place to judge others. I totally respect that and she and I have had several really good conversations about her religion and her beliefs. I find them interesting although I do not believe.

Nope, even when I was a "practicing" Catholic, I was never really into it. I found there was too much conflict with my personal beliefs as I grew into adulthood.

Why should I be tolerant of people's viewpoints that say gay people are sinners, don't belong in the House Of God, and should be actively discriminated against? It is one thing to say that you don't agree with their lifestyle but when it comes to the point that someone says they should be discriminated against, well, I guess, I am going to get offended by that.

 

I don't give a damm whether you are or not. I'm just pointing out that you're a flaming hypocrite.

What I'm missing is a reason to care.

 

I am waiting for an answer from you on my post question.

 

the old you not tolerant of my intolerance argument, the religious right loves to cry that one

 

That's fine, get offended. The point is, liberals like to go around calling themselves such tolerant people, but they prove time and time again that they are only tolerant of things they already approve of. That's not really tolerance.

 

Dharma seems to have decided that ignoring my question is in their best interest.

 

Really?

Can you list what behaviors "liberals" are intending to FORCE the poor Righties to NOT do? For instance, are they trying to STOP Righties from marrying the OPPOSITE sex by federal and state laws? Are "liberals" trying to prevent heterosexual sex that does not result in pregnancy?

 

Christ judging others is a bit different from his followers doing it.

If we are to believe that Christ was simultaneously God and the son of God, then him judging others has no bearing on his discouragement for the rest of us to judge.

That's how I understand it anyway.

 

Ru Paul said once: other people's opinion of me are none of my business.

If everyone thought like that just think how happy a life they could live. Do not worry about the opinions of others because they just don't matter in the long run.

 

Do you accept that they have a right to their opinion and to express it? If you aren't trying to prevent them from doing so, then I would say you have tolerance enough.

It doesn't mean you have to refrain from expressing how you feel about their viewpoint.

They may find your views just as irritating as you find theirs.

What you find offensive is certainly your prerogative. I'm offended by it as well.

The bottom line: Tolerance doesn't mean you have to be meek about expressing yourself. You don't have to refrain from criticizing intolerant views or the inevitable whining from your opponents that will follow.

 

Ummm ... actually, yeah, they do come up to you on the street, sometimes. They even come to your house.

Which is more or less fine. The problem is that their opinion is that they should be making laws that back their opinions, and if you don't let them do that, they see it as being oppressed because they aren't allowed to oppress others. It's very confusing.

 

the only way that happens is with equal rights for all and separation of church and state

 

then we are faced with the impossibility of following the example of Christ, since none of us are God or ever will be; but the fact remains that anyone who says, as Christ did according to the apostle John, "I can of mine own self do nothing" is either not God or not telling the truth.

 

Don't worry, everyone has that moment in their life. When you try to be nice, but they won't be nice back. And certainly the certain people even here will show that to you.The best way to combat it, is to maintain that higher moral ground. Then, at least when they're getting dirty, you'll stay clean.

 

I'm not sure you know what the definition of tolerance is considering the posts you made regarding "brown colored" people in the Obamacare thread.

I'm sorry. What was your question? I was actually out living my life and not really worrying what a group of who spend their time judging others and then whining when the same thing is done to them think.

 

amen!!!