This Is Islam!

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  1. 4Horsemen

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    the Nephillim were a hybrid creation of Fallen Angels(Demons) and Womankind. Earthly women.

    this is Fact. AND it's no where to be found in the Quran either.
     
  2. 4Horsemen

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    You are unlearned. the Nephillim were around since Genesis. BEFORE the Flood. Read up and study.

    only the Quran, Talmud and Kabballah are works of fiction and witchcraft. fact.
     
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    Well... it isn't fact, it's a story in a book. But no, nowhere in the Bible does it mention fallen angels, only sons of God or sons of Heaven (depending on what version you are reading).
     
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    Yeah, yeah, everyone who doesn't conform to what YOU think you know is "unlearned."

    You really don't know that you don't know and aint bothered to learn what I said.

    I AGREED that they were around before the flood. What you don't know is that they are also around after.


    So, YOU go read up and study, bub. Cause you really only know half of it.
     
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    Once again out of context. You don't even realize that this scripture is talking about the slavery the Israelites were under. these were instructions to those that held Israelite slaves. notice it's in Exodus, the time of the Egyptian captivity?...the time when Pharoah was killing slaves for sport, feeding them to Lions, mutilating them as the Romans/Babylonians and Assyrians did also. this was instructing those kingdoms to treat their slaves respectfully. but they didn't. they went against GOD and were destroyed.

    Is this the destructiveness you're talking about? the Destrcution of the Israelites? if so, I agree. it was a destructive time in our history for our people.

    You started out claiming the Bible preached destructiveness like the Quran. It doesn't. It only tells the accounts of what happend to various kingdoms in the Old Testament that went against GOD. so you are FOUL for even going in that direction when the Bible doesn't even preach destructiveness. YOu pick out the parts that shows a retribution from GOD and call it destructive, but you don't read the prior parts that tell why GOD wanted to destroy something/some place or some people.

    You are spreading mis-info.

    the Bible doesn't say cut up your wife and sell her as bacon or chop off her nose for being disobedient. none of that.
     
  6. Ozymandias

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    The actual Exodus happened in Chapter 13. By the time Chapter 21 rolls around, they are out of Egypt and this is specifically how Exodus 21 starts:

    21 “These are the laws you are to set before them:"

    Hence, these are the rules sent down by God to Moses that the Hebrews are supposed to abide by.

    You obviously have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

    So, the rape... what did the women do wrong that pissed off God so much that they had to be killed for being raped? What did the daughters who were sold into sexual slavery do to anger God? And here's the kicker: it doesn't matter WHY God did what he did, it matters HOW he reacts to it. Oh man, some people go against God? Better kill their women, children, and infants because he says to. Nothing about that is moral.
     
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    It's not about Conforming, If you have truth and wisdom we can discuss this, but you are showing neither and just cuttin' and pastin' nonsense and expect a validation of it after I completely blow it out of the water?

    And I do realize the Nephilliim were around after the flood. but you said earlier that they weren't around druing the exodus, but that's alie. they were. How do you think the Pyramids got built all over the world.

    google Easter Island and explain to me how those Monument statue heads got there without some sort of Super strength or advanced technology, becuase one statue head would sink the cargo ship if you tried to bring one across the ocean. we are talking about tons of dense rock in those sculptures.
     
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    are you implying GOD allowed the rape to happen? This is a judgement from GOD, not something he promoted.

    This^ is a judgement from GOD, not something the Bible promotes as you're trying to claim.
     
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    Truly encyclopedic ignorance. You know nothing of which you speak, be it your own superstition's holy book, Islam, or Rapa Nui. What else do you claim expertise about of which you know nothing?
     
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    Now back to the Quran...the subject of the thread.


    Mutilating of women...where is this allowed in the Quran? what is the purpose for this? did Allah ordain this behavior?

    THESE are the questions you need to be asking.
     
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    Retarded vitriolic responses don't shake me. what else you got troll?
     
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    but thats considered doing gods work... as the jews do now, killing muslims
     
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    Pasithea Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    4Horsemen, all I see is you condemning Islam but then praising your own religious dogma, Christianity. They both have horrible and evil stagnant moral codes. Christianity came from Judaism, and Islam came from Christianity, and Judaism stole from neighboring pagan beliefs. All these religions have done is stolen bits and pieces of the beliefs of either religions and then modified them to suit their own moral and ethical beliefs at the time.

    They are still all wrong and horrible. While Islam may condone and even perform genital mutilation of girls, Christians and Jews in the US are still mutilating the penises of baby boys as well with circumcision. It's all very sick and wrong.

    I don't know how anyone can condemn one religion that is so similar in their moral beliefs on violence against women, murder of children, genocide, slavery, raping of virgins etc. and then praise their own religion which believes all those very same things. Ugh...it is just so mind boggling to me.

    All I can say is, pot meet kettle. You bash their beliefs and they bash yours, yet you both believe in the same bunk that cannot ever be proven to be true.
     
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    remove religion and what do you have? a species ready and willing to move on as a whole.
     
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    It is something he ordered, it is a law about rape. Every woman that was raped and did not yell out should be put to death. That is a pretty (*)(*)(*)(*) destructive (to society) law.

    ...So your God thinks that it is fine for Saul to go kill children and infants, but the Bible certainly isn't trying to imply that it is okay? Come on. I thought your God could do no wrong; he is the moral perfectness that we try to aim for. Apparently killing babies and children is morally okay according to the Bible!

    Also you were completely wrong about the slavery ruling, saying that it was a description from when the Jews were under Egyptian slavery. You have no idea what your Bible says and yet you portray yourself as a (*)(*)(*)(*) prophet.
     
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    So, what you are saying is, that every western cultured democratic society, is up in arms, constantly about the terrorism that Christians are inflicting on them? Christians daily murdering homosexuals and stoning women is what we witness endlessly on the global medias? When the bible is burnt or a cartoon of jesus christ is published, you are saying that christians are killing those cartoonists, journalists and authors?

    Spain, France, Germany, UK, USA, Russia on and on and on....the christians are blowing up the subways etc, is what you are driving at right?

    How could we all...the entire planet, just get it so wrong.
     
  17. John.

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    Bro, if you think I'm cutting and pasting all you have to do is cut and paste what I posted back into google. You find the site that I copied from and rub my face in it.


    Otherwise, you are just talking smack.


    And you didn't blow anything out of the water. What you just said ACKNOWLEDGES that I was right, but you don't give me the credit. I said that they were around when the spies were sent into Caanan.


    Easter Island is you trying to deflect. Oh gee, I don't know how things could possibly be built without giants.

    Eiffel Tower? Giants, obviously.

    Empire State Building? Giants

    Hoover Dam? Giant autonomous robots from a distant galaxy.


    Or maybe it was human ingenuity and technology?


    Either way, the bible said that the giants were kiiled in the flood, but afterward there are still giants. That's a problem.
     
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    When it comes to the truth, you don't have a clue. Jesus taught to not judge. You go against his teachings, and pretend to be a follower. God's love is not in you what so ever. You are a worker of iniquity.
     
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    Do me a favor, start a thread on Christianity and I will not only address and discuss each and every scripture you have an issue with, and I will admit to what in your/mine eyes appears wrong but in GOD's eyes is not.

    and fyi- Christianity itself is a cult and so I don't induldge into that either. I'm follower of Christ. an Israelite, from the Tribe of Judah. We don't worship the Man as Christianity implies and so many foolish people do. We heed/keep the Commandments as we once did before the fall of our nation, Israel. that's it. and Yeshua is our King.
     
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    No I am saying the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam all have the same basic stagnant moral codes and to call one out on it's evil scriptures and passages while ignoring all the evil scriptures and passages in your own holy book is completely hypocritical.
     
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    The followewrs of Christ and his teachings from the 1611 Holy Bible are the only ones that are not stagnant. the rest are indeed. gutter religions.

    Are you needing an invite to the Kingdom?
     
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    lol that's ok. I would prefer not to follow any religion as I have my own spiritual beliefs. But I am interested in knowing which Bible you use, one that was written in 1611 you say? What are the differences in that Bible compared to the current ones out today?
     
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    I am an atheist. The thread OP was about a video, detailing various Islamic tactics, at different percentages of the population in host countries with the end result through various branches of Islam, of transforming the host countries to sharia law.

    Your comparison of current Islamic ideology, with current christian ideology is not to be equalized, as one poster mentioned...and the attempt is a little ridiculous IMO. Everyone has a holy book I guess, but that has little to do with the realities, progressively militiant, subtle legal machinations or any variant of jihad... that Islam is attempting force in host countries.
     
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    I give you credit. cool?

    this is what you actually said...


    But the truth is, the were alive in the days of the Exodus, dude. did I mis-quote you?


    See, I was trying to be serious.,..lol...here you go posting things WE KNOW mankind created. I think you misunderstand the magnitude of what it took to create those statues on that remote Island.

    but you just wanna argue. I'll play along.

    the Bible doesn't say that. you're twisting scripture. It says this:

    Genesis 6:4

    There were Giants in the earth in those daies: and also after that, when the sonnes of God came in vnto the daughters of men, & they bare children to them; the same became mightie men, which were of old, men of renowme.
    did not say thatWhy is that a problem.



    Now, what I'm about to say might scare the socks off you, are you ready?....What if I told you that some of the Nephillim escaped the flood in the UFO's with other Demons and came back when the water receeded?

    Very possible since the UFO's have been visting us since you and I ahve beeen alive..ven the days of your great grand parents. the Nephillim are real and were not all killed.
     
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    You sure did. My name is John. not Daggdog.
     
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