Investigator says George Zimmerman had right to shoot Trayvon Martin (video inside)

Interesting video: [video=youtube;2HA1M5yzkJg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HA1M5yzkJg[/video]

Of course, it's arguably moot anyway because there's no evidence that George Zimmerman was the aggressor, but even if he was, he apparently was still justified in shooting Trayvon if he was in fear for his life from the beating Martin was giving him.

 

Bump. Curious to see what Martin supporters have to say here.

 

This is a silly con job.. George had NO authority to detain Trayvon... and since GZ was a stranger who failed to identify himself, a reasonable person would be afraid.

 

If George pushed or even tried to grab Trayvon, then he would still have been justified in shooting Martin once Martin started slamming his head against the concrete. Once Zimmerman was yelling for the fight to end, Martin should have stopped.

It's all kind of moot anyway, because there's no proof that Zimmerman ever touched Trayvon. All of the evidence points to Martin beating the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of Zimmerman.

 

Trayvon didn't slam George's head or repeatedly punch him in the face. George is a liar. If he had suffered a savage beating, his injuries would have been very serious.

like this



Brian mullign of Deutche Bank .. beaten by LAPD.

 

Absolutely correct! GZ had every right to stop the attack from a burglary tool carrying druggie delinquent Trayvon.Even the police say he did! LOL!

 

Here is a picture of the Easter Bunny:



It's more pleasant to look at and just as relevant as the photo you posted! LOL!


GZ didn't have to wait until he was near death to use deadly force.

 

George didn't detain anyone.

 

George didn't detain anyone.

 

If not then why his ever changing narratives???

 

The old Margot trick of inserting unsubstantiated material and then going on to claim Zimmerman's fault. There is no evidence that Zimmerman detained anyone.



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There is no requirement for Zimmerman to receive a savage beating before he could use deadly force. He did suffer trauma. He probably blocked several blows, and he tried to move away from the concrete. Once Martin put him in fear of losing his life or suffering great bodily harm, then Zimmerman was legally justified in using deadly force to stop Martin's attack.

I CHALLENGE you, Margot, to show us in Florida law where a person is required to suffer great bodily harm before defending their life with deadly force.

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Just read the law and pay attention to the reasonable man standard.

 

There is no requirement, and you can show no such requirement.


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Oh yes there is ... but i can't force you to read the law.

 

So only Zimmerman was allowed to SYG?

 

A phrase frequently used in tort and Criminal Law to denote a hypothetical person in society who exercises average care, skill, and judgment in conduct and who serves as a comparative standard for determining liability.

The decision whether an accused is guilty of a given offense might involve the application of an objective test in which the conduct of the accused is compared to that of a reasonable person under similar circumstances. In most cases, persons with greater than average skills, or with special duties to society, are held to a higher standard of care. For example, a physician who aids a person in distress is held to a higher standard of care than is an ordinary person.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Reasonable+person+standard

Standards of Care and the "Reasonable Person"

The standard of care required in negligence law typically relates to a person's conduct, rather than a person's state of mind. In most instances, a defendant is required to exercise the same "ordinary care" or "due care" that a reasonable person would exercise in the same or similar circumstances. Negligence cases often focus on the reasonableness requirement

 

A phrase frequently used in tort and Criminal Law to denote a hypothetical person in society who exercises average care, skill, and judgment in conduct and who serves as a comparative standard for determining liability.

The decision whether an accused is guilty of a given offense might involve the application of an objective test in which the conduct of the accused is compared to that of a reasonable person under similar circumstances. In most cases, persons with greater than average skills, or with special duties to society, are held to a higher standard of care. For example, a physician who aids a person in distress is held to a higher standard of care than is an ordinary person.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Reasonable+person+standard

Standards of Care and the "Reasonable Person"

The standard of care required in negligence law typically relates to a person's conduct, rather than a person's state of mind. In most instances, a defendant is required to exercise the same "ordinary care" or "due care" that a reasonable person would exercise in the same or similar circumstances. Negligence cases often focus on the reasonableness requirement

 

You could try posting the segment of the Florida law along with a link. Laws are also codified with numbers.


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I just did.... Its basic legal theory in both tort and criminal law... While every state may word the statutes slightly differently... its the backbone of Murder 2, Criminal negligence, Aggravated manslaughter etc.

I only know this because we spent two months studying it in school.

 

Maybe when this is all said and done Zims can go to the WWE and become "The Hulking White Hispanic Ninja" or something? I mean if he can detain and hold down a huge youth in the prime fitness of his life with one hand he needs to be touring the circuit for sure.

 

It helps if arguments are based upon facts as opposed to fiction.

Martin did not have any burglary tools on him and if we consider a screwdriver as a burglary tool, as was previously done related to Martin, then 90% of the adult male population of America are burglers.

Martin didn't have any drugs on his person nor did his autopsy reveal any drug in his system so that allegation is completely unfounded.

Finally, the lead homicide detective did recommend that Zimmerman should be arrested the night of the shooting.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-ma...orge-zimmerman-manslaughter/story?id=16011674

Three for three on making false statements..........

 

No, you did not show ANY requirement in Florida law that requires a person to suffer a savage beating prior to using deadly force to defend your life. You are trying to use the legal standard that is used to judge decisions as a substitute. There is no requirement in Florida law that a person has to suffer a savage beating's injury prior to using deadly force. That's why you cannot show us one.




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Can you or any other Martin fan explain the women's jewelry in Martin's possession in school?

Why hasn't the media put photos of it on their web sites in an attempt to find the rightful owners?

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Ask yourself.. what would a resonable man have done under ALL the circumstances?

Would he have gotten out of his car?

Would he have waited for the police?

Would he have identified himself as NW?

If you have a couple of weeks to spare, you can read up and understand how reasonable man standard applies.