End of Canada?Parti Québécois wins the provincial elections

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End of Canada?

Poll closed Nov 7, 2012.
  1. Yes, this is it

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  2. No, it s not

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    End of Canada?Parti Québécois wins the provincial elections
     
  2. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need a referendum on Independence. If it is passed, Canada will be a little smaller.
     
  3. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    i wander why Anglos can not accept a logical transformation from federation to confederation?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Canada is a confederation.

    We've had two referenda, we won't be having another anytime soon. the PQ has a minority government.
     
  5. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    wrong "Canada is a federal state governed as a parliamentary democracy and a constitutional monarchy, with Queen Elizabeth II as its head of state"
     
  6. Rain

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    Because approximately half the citizens of the United States, primarily but not exclusively Anglos as you put it, believe in freedom and personal responsibility, while the other half do not. The former half does not want to be morally or financially responsible for the irresponsible behavior of the latter half, while the latter half realizes if cannot survive without pillaging the former half.
     
  7. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You talking about me? I'm a Cymro, chum - not a drop of Anglo blood in my body.
     
  8. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    Québécois live in their country and what USA has to do with last Canadian election?
     
  9. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that's right a confederation.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Confederation
    Canada is a federal state[1] and not a confederate association of sovereign states, the usual meaning of confederation; but is often considered to be among the world's more decentralized federations.[2]

    In this Canadian context, confederation generally describes the political process that united the colonies in the 1860s and related events, and the subsequent incorporation of other colonies and territories.[3] The term confederation is now often used to describe Canada in an abstract way, "the Fathers of Confederation" itself being one such usage. Provinces and territories that became part of Canada after 1867 are also said to have joined, or entered into, confederation (but not the Confederation).[4] Confederation is, loosely translated, a confederation of colonies.[4] The term is also used to divide Canadian history into pre-Confederation (i.e. pre-1867) and post-Confederation (i.e. post-1867) periods.[5]
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Quebecois' country is canada. Francophones are Canadien, Anglophones are Canadian. Seperatists are dreamers.
     
  11. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    here comes my link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_federalism , "Canadian federalism refers to the nature and historical development of the federal systems within Canada. Canada is a federation with two distinct jurisdictions of political authority: the country-wide federal government and the ten regionally-based provincial governments. It also has three territorial governments in the far north, though the territories exercise delegated powers under the authority of the Parliament of Canada. All three jurisdictions are linked together by the Canadian Crown, from which all derive their sovereignty and authority; each government includes the Queen-in-Parliament, the Queen-in-Council, and the Queen-on-the-Bench. The federal parliament and the legislative assemblies of the provinces are independent of one another in their respective areas of legislative authority;[1] although a few sectors are shared, such as agriculture and immigration, but most are either entirely within federal jurisdiction, such as foreign affairs and telecommunications, or entirely within provincial jurisdiction, such as education and healthcare."
    again Canada is a federation much like Germany, Russia etc.
     
  12. Paris

    Paris Well-Known Member

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    Where is the third option: I dunno but I'll drink to that.

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  13. danielpalos

    danielpalos Banned

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    I am not sure what you are referring. Our Founding Fathers wisely enumerated only sufficient Socialism, to provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States, not the general warfare and the common offense, on a for profit basis in an economy where it only takes money to make money, regardless of morals and personal responsibility.

    Why is it so difficult for our wealthier elected representatives to bear true witness to our own laws, simply for the sake of morals and that form of moral absolutism, and that form of personal responsibility?

     
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    is that Welsh for (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag?
     
  15. Lil Mike

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    Quebec isn't going anywhere. They can dream all they want but I doubt they want the bill of going it alone.
     
  16. Jonsa

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    reality always sets in. they can't afford it.
     
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    all francophones are not french...all french are not necessarily separatists..independent quebec means losing french influence linguistically culturally and economically and that is what reasonable french descendants will not permit to happen in the case of referendum
     
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    That's an exaggeration.
    However, there’re a lot of French separatists in Quebec.
    [video=youtube;pC-_JK58tRM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pC-_JK58tRM&feature=related[/video]
     
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    You could ask people who live in Quebec if they are bothered. Apart from the fact that fools from rural central Quebec must not have read the news reports elected a bigot who backtracked on every major policy proposal she uttered, at least the more intelligent folks in Montreal, Quebec City and Gatineau ensured that the government was a minority with four more seats than the Liberals.

    If this spendthrift government survives the first budget, and that is highly unlikely, attrition of seats due to MNAs resigning, passing away etc. will do them in. By-elections favour opposition parties. In Canada, governments tend to get voted out, not voted in. I expect that the Liberals will be back in power in a year (mostly due to the fact that everyone else is worse), the CAQ will be bankrupt and gone, and infighting and splintering the separatist movement in the PQ will relegate them back to the opposition.

    There is nothing to see here, except that for the next few months Mme Marois' foolish utterances will get a little more attention than deserved.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    Interesting...... I'm still waiting for the Scots, Welsh, and Cornish people to free themselves.
     
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    They would have to have a clear question on the ballet as well. The 1995 was bull(*)(*)(*)(*) when it came to that. For real look at the question they had to vote on

    "Do you agree that Quebec should become sovereign after having made a formal offer to Canada for a new economic and political partnership within the scope of the bill respecting the future of Quebec and of the agreement signed on June 12, 1995?."

    Also you can't just leave because you have a 50+1 vote, so it would be very hard for the parti quebecois to get support in the range of 60%
     
  22. skeptic-f

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    The last referendum I can remember was in 1995 and it was very close (that's why I was paying attention to the issue). I do know that the federal government passed something called the Clarity Act and that Quebec passed some Act which basically said they felt they alone had the right to determine sovereignty. From what I can tell in recent years, support for seperation appears to be going down in popularity, so I'm not sure why Litwin thinks this election result guarantees Quebec seperation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarity_Act
     
  23. SAUER

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    What about the independent Texans? ;)
     
  24. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No - it means fellow-countrymen preserving decency amongst illiterate, drunken, pig-loving racist barbarians. Why do you ask?
     
  25. Serfin' USA

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    It isn't likely for Quebec to ever separate from Canada for one simple reason -- they can't afford to.

    The oil riches (and uranium riches) of Western Canada keep a lot of Eastern Canada afloat.

    It's like all this talk of Scotland separating from the U.K. Even if Scotland does separate, they'll remain part of the EU primarily because they're not economically strong enough to stand on their own.
     

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