Why would god create 1500 bisexual/gay species if he hates homosexuality? Part II

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  1. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    Not one person in here has answered the fundamental question:

    If god

    hates
    does not like
    declares homosexual an abomination

    take your pick of the above 3 -all are pretty clear this 'god' does not like homosexuality

    why does he create homosexuality and institutes it in 1500 different species.
     
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    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    There are plenty of examples of rape in the animal world. That doesn't mean it is okay for humans.
     
  3. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    Who said anything about rape? Who? No one did and its not relevant to the discussion.

    Now, care to answer this:

     
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    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your logic has been decimated. Whether you choose to realize this is of your own making. Stick to secular arguments.
     
  5. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    :laughing: ya ok!

    I accept your flag.

    When one throws ad homs when they can not debate, that is a sign of a white flag.
     
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    None of the above has any baring on homosexuality and animals.

    Why does god create homosexuality in animals if he hates it?
     
  7. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Nope and red herring.

    Claim: Homosexuality is unnatural.
    Rebuttal: Homosexuality appears in 1,500 species.
    Result: Claim debunked. End of argument.
     
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    maybe what people object to so much is not homosexuality but gayness?

    just a thought. Throughout history, there have been homosexuals...in some societies they were not only accepted but viewed as inspirational or heroic (think Thebes or Athens) in some societies they were considered almost sacred...a link to the spiritual world connecting men and women..

    so could it be that the resistance and anger directed at the gay population has nothing to do with being a homosexual, or who you have sex with, but with the whole gay lifestyle?
     
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    I was clear as to what I was addressing.
     
  10. rstones199

    rstones199 Well-Known Member

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    Really? So what does Leviticus have to do with Animals?

    What does Leviticus have to do god implementing homosexuality in 1500 different species?
     
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    DBM aka FDS Well-Known Member

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    Uh... Non-biology people posting about biology.

    First to those who think this is amazing - it's not. The percentage of life on this planet compared to that which practice homosexuality is very, very, very, VERY SMALL. Like .001%.

    Is this a carried over instinct from when they were unisex or something? Is it hereditary? Is it… dare I say… EVOLUTION? Those dealing and believing in evolution should use this in their argument for since all life came from being unisexual at some time (from what they say) that we should see a lot more homosexuality within our planets life!
     
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    I never said it had anything to do with animals.
    I quoted a specific post, which dealt with humans and not animals, and responded to it. If you take issue with it, feel free to report it as off topic.
     
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    So then rape is natural? Cannibalism is natural? Murder is natural?

    The OP set the parameters, all who engaged did so within those parameters. Don't be pissed because you didn't like the end results.

    Remind of this guy.....
    [video=youtube;RRdWntqCLwg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdWntqCLwg&feature=related[/video]
     
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    Do they occur in nature?

    Yeah?

    Yay! You just answered your own question.
     
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    Yes, these things are natural. Otherwise, people would have to learn them after birth. As it is, people become rapists, cannibals and murderers without outside help, and likewise for many other animals.
     
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    Look. I don't care if gays get married. I think married people getting state privileges is bull(*)(*)(*)(*) from the beginning, and don't blame gay couples for wanting to capitalize on that fact.

    But the simple fact remains, as for using this angle to that end, you are wasting your time. "Animals do it" has never been a great legal argument.
     
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    Nope and red herring.

    Claim: Homosexuality is unnatural.
    Rebuttal: Homosexuality appears in 1,500 species.
    Result: Claim debunked. End of argument.
     
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    Claim: Natural = should be excepted
    Rebuttal: Plenty of "natural" things aren't.
    Result: Refusing to except this isn't the route to take = retard.
     
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    Nope and red herring.

    Claim: Homosexuality is unnatural.
    Rebuttal: Homosexuality appears in 1,500 species.
    Result: Claim debunked. End of argument.

    The notion of homosexuality being "natural" is debunked. That is the purpose of the thread. Nothing more. Nothing less.

    Concede the point and move on.
     
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    Nope the claim is that homosexuality is a sin. It is natural for a fish to breathe under water. You try it without special apparatus and you'll drown. It is natural for male lions to kill and eat the offspring of other male lions. Because something is natural for one species does not make it so for others.
     
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    No one is claiming that just because it is natural that is is right.

    Homosexuality does not lead to drowning.

    Homosexuality does not lead to killing your competitors offspring.

    The point is moot.
     
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    How can anyone ask such an ignorant question that is so ignorant on multiple levels.

    First: What is natural for some species is not natural for others. Its natural for a chicken to lay an egg. God made them that way. So why isn't it natural for a woman to lay an egg? After all, chickens do it. Do you see the stupidity of that argument?

    Second: One might ask: "Why would god create alcoholics if he hates drunkeness?" "Why would god create theives if he hates stealing?" "Why would god create murderers if murder is a sin?" Do you see the stupidity of THAT question?

    We are fallen as a species thanks to original sin. We all have a weakness towards different sins. Thats the plain and simple answer. If you can't grasp that simple concept then you're a lost cause.

    In the future, try thinking before you start a thread that makes you look like an azz.
     
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    Homosexuality has appeared in humans for thousands of years. I am going to assume it is a natural occurrence.

    I would actually ask why God allows such things and gives us no choice to deviate.

    Refer to Jeremiah 1:5 and:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/261407-how-can-free-will-exist-omnipotence.html

    The idea of "Original Sin" is nothing short of asinine.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/religion/261214-problem-original-sin.html
     
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    Great -so if god hates homosexuality, why did he create it?
     
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    Nope, because it does not address the question: if god hates homosexuality, why did he create it and implement it in 1500 different species. After all, God made them that way.

    Great. That does not answer the question: if god hates homosexuality, why did he create it and implement it in 1500 different species.

    You are bring in human into this, which has absolutely NOTHING to do with the question.

    The only one looking like a 'azz' is you because you are bring in red herrings. The made up term 'sin' has NOTHING to do with the question of: if god hates homosexuality, why did he create it and implement it in 1500 different species.

    Answer the question.
     

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