We wish the Kurdish People Independence NOW!

No Litwin I am not liberal or rich, probably you are richer than me.
Actually i don't care it much too, I always proud that my familiy and grand families never been in a shamefull discrimination event, or a shamefull crime.
And all they were humanist and intellectual on the other hand they were mostly willager orgined. If you mean this yes I could be richer than you.

You told me to be brain washed by my state, you should check It too because you can never find a comment by me rejects the Kurds or discrimination comment for another nation.
I even critisize the stereotypical Kemalist ideology even I beleive that Kemal Ataturk was great leader. I am also critisizing the Erdogan Goverment seriously.

So, I beleive you should spend and direct your charges carefully, because after many of your unwarranted treads and comments people don't give attention even to answer your charges anymore.

 

just few years ago speaking Kurdish in public could have led you to your death by ordinary turks and police.

dear, are 15 + million Kurds in South east Kurdish region allowed to learn their mother's tongue in schools and Unis???? and your constitution still denies Kurdish existence as it says "there are only turks in turkey" so you deny our existence, first turkey must fix this then things can lead into better basic rights for kurds.

btw the 2nd kurdistan is established

 

British and French Governments have historical and moral duty to support Syrian Kurds

September 9, 2012

As World War 1 ended, in November 11, 1918; Ottoman Empire capitulated, the prime victors of the war (Britain and France ) unconsciously and arbiterly determined the division of Kurdistan amongst the new artificially created States; which basically made Kurdistan the Sub-colony of the colony whom ever since the Kurdish people’s plight and right being denied.

During French mandate rule in Syria: The France government did not support or provide any recognized legislative code to protect the Kurdish people in Syria, even though this forceful attachment was against the wishes of the people of the Kurdish region. “In 1936-1937 there was some autonomist agitation among Assyrians and Kurds, supported by some Bedouins, in the province of Al-Jazira. Its partisans wanted the French troops to stay in the province in the hypothesis of a Syrian independence, as they feared the nationalist Damascus government would replace minority officials by Muslim Arabs from the capital. The French authorities refused to consider any new status of autonomy inside Syria.”

They must acknowledge the historical errors, revising the Judgments and take their- cause to the United Nation before General Assembly for recognition of autonomous Regions in Eastern Syria.

Today, the world is witnessing the devastating civil war in Syria, mainly between Bashar al- Assad dictatorial regimes and majority Sunni oppositions with brutal consequences on both sides of conflicts and so far the Kurdish areas have partially been spared, the Kurdish Syrian Parties agreed to jointly to govern the areas. Neither the oppositions nor Assad regimes do approve self- proclaim the Kurdish an autonomous region in the Eastern Syria. If there is no some kind of international protection is provided for self- proclaimed autonomy in Eastern Syria-Kurdistan; the future regimes in Damascus whether would continue to be Bashar al-Assad regime or the majority Sunni sect opposition which both do not appear to believe any minority rights the probability, it will involve ethnic cleansing which past history has showed that the Kurdish people in that area have suffered greatly including but limited to deprive from basic human rights, such as educations, citizenships, land confiscation and forceful deportations, etc., at the hand of various regimes in Damascus.

“Mohamed Talab Hillal in Syria, the Baathist Cabinet post Minister in 1963; who planned systematic destruction of Kurdish land in Eastern Syria, who wrote a baseless & unfounded thesis on the Kurdish people, which he set out “Arab Cordon Plan” ( Al Hizam al-Arabi) which envisaged the expulsion of the entire Kurdish population living in eastern Syria. Today the World has witnessed that the racist misguided policy that set out by opaque views that all Syrian people are suffering”.

Minorities in the region continues to face serious threats, discrimination and racism, and are frequently forbidden from taking part replete in the economic, political, social life of their countries.

“Kurdistan was erased from the map after World War 1, when the Allied Powers carved up the Middle East and denied the Kurds as a nation – State,” as far as Kurdish people concern this is a historical betrayal bestowed on the Kurdish nation by the victors of World War 1. The dominators of the sub- colonial states of this land, do not appear to have any future solutions at hand or to say these armed conflicts have failed to achieve any tangible goals. Therefore, we should pursue a different vision for the whole region,www.ekurd.net the best option that would be a democratic system, along a peaceful process. The Kurdish people have not sought superiority over any other nation; they seek equality, co- partnership, peace and justice for all, but at the same time, they do not accept inferiority either.

“The ideology of racism serves to legitimate the social inequalities between the groups by making them seem “natural” or “right.”If one can believing, that all tyrannical behaviors are good. Prejudice attitude toward members of another group. These people are regarded with hostility simply because they belong to a particular group, and they are assumed to have the undesirable qualities that are attributed to the group as whole”.

“The Sykes–Picot Agreement, officially known as the Asia Minor Agreement, was a secret agreement between the governments of the United Kingdom and France,[1] with the assent of Russia, defining their proposed spheres of influence and control in Middle East should the Triple Entente succeed in defeating the Ottoman Empire during World War I. The negotiation of the treaty occurred between November
1915 and March 1916.[2] The agreement was concluded on 16 May 1916.[3]”

The ill advised, the Asia Minor Agreement between the victors of the World War 1; was unjust to the region and it was devastating results to the Kurdish people and which took Kurdistan out of international stage . British and French governments, both have historical responsibility to re-correct the wrong course, which happened on May 16, 1916; at Sykes-Picot agreement, therefore the opportunity is on horizon, and both governments are capable of reversing at least partially that misguided policy bestowed on Kurdistan.
Today, minority communities face new challenges, including legislation, policies and practices that may unjustly hinder or transgress minority rights.

Erbil agreement should be enhanced and must continue to be, which was signed by the Kurdish forces and political parties of Syria under the supervision of Kurdistan Region's President Massoud Barzani.

Omar Sindi - United States, a regular contributing writer and columnist for Ekurd.net
The contents of this article reflect the author's personal opinions

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2012/9/syriakurd614.htm

 

Kurds Declare Autonomy in Syrian Kurdistan



The Kurdish council, an umbra group that gathers Kurdish National Council (KNC)and the Democratic Union Party (PYD,) said on Sunday in the Kurdistan region of Iraq that they have decided to declare an autonomous Kurdistan region in the Syrian Kurdish cities. The West Kurdistan politicians are seeking to establish an autonomous region similar to the South Kurdistan region of Iraq, Mahmoud Mohammed, a member of the council told elaf website.

As Kurds began seizing control of several Kurdish cities on Wednesday following the withdrawal of the Syrian army from the Kurdish areas in the country, the Kurdish political groups sent a message to the Free Syrian Army ( the Arab opposition group) which battles the Syrian regime, that they were not allowed in the Kurdish—populated region.
Syria’s Kurds who have long suffered discrimination under the Assad regime, now have a chance to curve a Kurdish zone in similar to that of Iraq’s autonomous Kurdistan region.
Qamishli, which is the largest Kurdish city in Syria and the capital of West Kurdistan, is still under control of Syrian forces, but Kurdish leaders expect the army to pull out of the area to battle the powerful Syrian rebel groups in the other Arab cities including the Damascus.

http://ikjnews.com/?p=4602

 

Turkey is bringing Al Qayda on its soil

 

9/11 means something else in Kurdistan. It's the day Mustafa Barzani, 1961 took up arms against Saddam.

 

A Kurdish Spring in Turkey and Syria?


Kurds demonstrate on the 150th day of the Uludere massacre on May 26 in Istanbul, Turkey. The air force killed 34 Kurds from Uludere village in an operation. (Photo: Petitfrere, Dreamstime.com)

The uprisings of the Arab Spring are spilling over into an awakening of Kurdish people and their national self-definition. The Kurds number some 30 million people scattered around Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran and the Caucasus. The civil war in Syria has provided certain Kurdish armed groups with the opportunity to further arm themselves and enact a round of attacks against the Turkish Army, hoping to create a second autonomous Kurdish region in the Middle East, the first being Northern Iraq. Characteristically, Massoud Barzani, current president of the Iraqi Kurdistan Region, said, "The Kurdish nation will be united and the day of self-determination is coming."

Since the end of 2011, as the war in Syria was building, Kurdish guerilla groups in Turkey, such as PKK, intensified their attacks. Turkish officials at that period frequently commented in the press that Northern Syria was becoming a de facto autonomous Kurdish region, from where guerillas would supply themselves with arms and launch attacks. Turkish Defense Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said, "A plan to create a string of autonomous Kurdish states will set pace for the creation of the great Kurdistan that will eventual carve the Turkish territory."

Since then, hundreds of military attacks by Kurds have managed to inflict great casualties on the Turkish Army, along with a large number of kidnappings, similar in fashion to those of the Latin American guerilla groups. In mid-2012, Hakkari, a city of 60,000, was circled by the rebels, and territories up to 40 kilometers from the Turkish-Iraqi borders are in effect controlled by rebels, over which the Turkish state has for the time only nominal sovereignty. According to pro-PKK elements, the guerillas are able to deploy themselves up to 400 kilometers inside the Turkish territory and even block highways.

Since the end of July 2012, the Turkish Army has started a new anti-guerilla campaign in the mountainous terrain of southeastern Turkey, centered on the cities of Semdinli and Gerdiya. In order to show the ferocity of the battles and the sophisticated armaments used by the guerillas in that front, it is interesting to note that they have managed to shoot down nine combat helicopters of the Turkish Army and destroy more than 150 armored vehicles and tanks, along with continuous attacks against the energy infrastructure of the region, such as the oil pipeline system.

The majority of the weaponry used are being obtained by Syria; President Assad has blamed Turkey for arming his opponents in his civil war and retaliates in this manner. In parallel, the triangle region of Turkey-Iraq-Iran is traditionally one of the global hot spots for contraband distribution, be it narcotics or weapons, and the rebels find no difficulty obtaining anti-aircraft systems of ammunitions for their mortars and artillery units. Neutral military experts who have assessed the situation say the attacks by PKK against the Turkish Army have effectively boosted its combat morale and brought on an influx of newly recruited rebels, a trend that further supports the hypothesis that the battles will go on for the foreseeable future.

Semdinli Mayor Sedat Tore, who is related to the Kurdish party BDP, commented in The Economist recently that the citizens of the city are surrounded by "a circle of fire," whilst it is a common secret that the vast majority of the district's population of 52,000 favors PKK and the establishment of an independent Kurdish region.

The major fear in Ankara is a prolonged civil war in Syria that will completely free the 2 million Kurdish minority from Damascus control, driving them toward an ethnic Kurdish hub and emergence of an all-out war in the whole of southeastern Turkey. The Kurds in Syria remain neutral in the fight between Assad's government and its opponents, weighting the situation as to when it would be suitable to proclaim their own independence. Turkey on the other hand supports the Syrian National Council, which is under the influence of the Muslim Brotherhood and is being financed mostly by the emirate of Qatar. Thus Turkey is pursuing the ousting of Assad in order to forge closer ties with Qatar (and Egypt) and gain a leading role in the Islamic world, while also fueling the ambitions of the Kurds to dismember Turkey.

The Kurdish Democratic Union, or PYD, controls most of the 900 kilometer border line between Syria and Turkey. Should it decide to fully support PKK—who engages from the Turkish-Iraqi border—it will bring about a major military headache in Ankara, which will have to transfer military units from central Turkey in order to withstand the pressure. Already several Turkish artillery units have taken up places close to the borders with Syria as a precaution, and at the same time Ankara pushes forward its relations with the KRG Kurdish party and Barzani, who in the past collaborated with Turkey.

A large number of young Kurds live and work in Istanbul and the Western parts of Turkey. Out of about 15 million residents in metropolitan Istanbul, 5 million are of Kurdish descent, often marginalized in terms of public acceptance, assimilation and social upward mobility. A continuation of intense fighting in southeastern Turkey, where elder members of their extended families live, may eventually lead to widespread revolts in Istanbul, thus igniting a Kurdish Spring in Turkey's most important urban center.

The chain of events that started in Tunisia in late 2010 continues to flare up explosive ethnic tensions in the Middle East. The Kurdish uprising and rebel activity seems to be gaining momentum, and any developments will be critically linked to the eventual resolve of the Syrian crisis.

A Kurdish Spring in Turkey and Syria? - Worldpress.org

 

it great, but still - brainwashed people are easy tools in the hands of the rulers. about turkey vs PKK: you should know already that turkey won the first round against PKK not with help of "well-known" Turkish bravery and modern Firearms but with help of the most terrible war crimes - Enforced disappearance of persons, Deportation or forcible transfer of population(ethnic cleansing ), etc. Stalin´s old school methods.... nothing to be proud of...

 

to all the Kurd haters here take this suckers

Kurdistan skyscraper U/C in Erbil Capital of south kurdistan (KRG)

 

Well, I hope the Kurds in Syria do succeed in establishing autonomy, similar to that in Iraq. The situation in Turkey and Iran does not seem to offer prospects for that currently, although that might change in Iran.
There still remain difficulties however. How much do the Kurds in Iraq, Syria, Iran and Turkey still have in common? And what about the other ethnic groups that sometimes live in the same territories?

 

well Syrian kurdistan is now enjoying total freedom and self-rule and noone can take it away from them, even turkey has backed off.

so two parts freed two to go. iran is next with US-Israel attack and send iran back to stone age, we will then begin an uprising in Iranian kurdistan just like we did in iraq back in the days.

Northern (turkey) Kurdistan is not as easy as other Kurdish parts. Once iranian Kurdistan is freed soon, with Iraq's and Syrians kurdistan already enjoying self-rule, as an effect turkey's Kurds will gain some kind of autonomy yet I dont know if US or anyone else (beside the enemies of Turkey) will support Turkey's Kurdistan being independent as long as Turkey stays an ally ( which might end quicker as we think). However yet I am sure after the autonomy and seeing how Kurds are losing themselves from Turkey and how this even effects Turkish economy and Turkish daily live positively (less war, more money for other important things and economic relationship). I am sure Turkey will somehow unwillingly "accept" the Independent North Kurdistan within 10-20 years.

 

Survey shows Diyarbakir residents desire more decentralisation

http://turkey.setimes.com/en_GB/art...es/departments/national/2012/03/23/feature-01

 

with Hewler governor Newzad Hadi


in Duhok Domiz camp


with Kurdistan PM


she has promised to return to kurdistan but this time it will be for tourism

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ9FOyhrp4A

 

Angie with kurdistan prime minister



with kurdish kids

 

I support peoples' right to self determination and their right to establish nation-states, what else could a nationalist do? But, I think that there are other peoples' whose claim might be of a higher priority, namely the armenians. I'm not that familiar with this so it might not be the case.

 

Armenians have an independent state. Admittedly it is much smaller than the area inhabited by Armenians a century ago, but the genocide by the Ottoman Empire was succesful in extinguishing the Armenian presence in much of eastern Turkey.

 

I think it will be more difficult than you think. But that doesn't mean I don't support Kurdish self-determination.

 

(*)(*)(*)(*) turks. Yes, it might be to late I'm afraid. But I saw that the greater kurdistan map posted here claims some areas of armenia. Doubtful claims I think..

 

kurds will not take anything Armenians we are both brothers and have suffered by turks, well you dont now we still do .


Anthony Bourdain : Kurdistan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wfq0MVjDKBI

 

In an interview with ANF about the recent developments in Turkey, the acting commander of the Kurdistan Workers' Party PKK and Kurdish Communities Union (KCK) Executive Council president Murat Karayılan called on the ruling Turkey's AKP government to hold a referendum on democratic autonomy under the supervision of international observers so that the people themselves could be asked about what they want.

Karayılan continued mentioning the ongoing clashes in Hakkari-Şırnak regions which –he said- have been controlled by guerrilla forces since late July. KCK President noted that “The Turkish army has been suffering critical losses and have been hiding these from the public, while it is on the other hand continuing to bomb wide areas as the military are not able to move on the ground.”

KCK leader remarked that the Turkish army is preparing for a new operation.

Referring to the recent statements of PM Erdoğan who said that BDP (Peace and Democracy Party) deputies should go to Kandil instead of the Turkish parliament, Karayılan commented PM’s “either Kandil or Parliament” choice as “either surrender or taking to the mountains” and added that the Kurdish youth should respond to the PM by taking to the mountains instead of deputies.

KCK President noted that HPG (People’s Defense Forces) guerrilla ( the military wing of PKK) forces would have the right to arrest AKP politicians and deputies in Kurdistan in case of dismissal of BDP deputies from the parliament.

The PKK has several times proposed peaceful solutions regarding Kurdish problem, Turkey has always refused saying that it will not negotiate with “terrorists”.

Since it was established in 1984, the PKK has been fighting the Turkish state, which still denies the constitutional existence of Kurds, to establish a Kurdish state in the south east of the country. More than 40,000 people have since been killed.

But now its aim is the creation an autonomous region and more cultural rights for ethnic Kurds who constitute the greatest minority in Turkey, numbering more than 20 million. A large Turkey's Kurdish community openly sympathise with the Kurdish PKK rebels.

The PKK wants constitutional recognition for the Kurds, regional self-governance and Kurdish-language education in schools.

PKK's demands included releasing PKK detainees, lifting the ban on education in Kurdish, paving the way for an autonomous democrat Kurdish system within Turkey, reducing pressure on the detained PKK leader Abdullah Öcalan, stopping military action against the Kurdish party and recomposing the Turkish constitution.

Turkey refuses to recognize its Kurdish population as a distinct minority. It has allowed some cultural rights such as limited broadcasts in the Kurdish language and private Kurdish language courses with the prodding of the European Union, but Kurdish politicians say the measures fall short of their expectations.

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2012/9/turkey4157.htm

 

While I support the legitimate demands of Kurds in Turkey for autonomy and/or independence, I in no way support the PKK, which is a totalitarian and anti-democratic terrorist movement. The only thing worse for the Kurds than turkish oppression would be the oppression of a PKK-run state.

 

indeed. That is what I fear also, that while I support the kurds right to independence I'm also sceptical about any nationalist group down there seeing as few are democratic and many are semi islamic. or?

 

The Iaqi Kurds have more sensible political movements and the PUK and PDK, while by no means perfect, are not the kind of terrorist groups that the PKK is. I'm not sufficiently familiar with the Kurdish groups in Iran.