We wish the Kurdish People Independence NOW!

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  1. alan131210

    alan131210 New Member

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    iranian kurds are two major parties, KDPI and offshore of KRG's PDK and Ranj Deran party.

    they have now signed a new treaty and united as one, sinilar to the syrian kurds high supreme council.

    pkk is not a terror group, lol the turkish army kills innocent kurds so this makes the turkish army a terror army as well, pkk has never launched missiles into civil areas like hamas and hizbulla do with israel. turkey killed 35 innocent kurds last year in roboski village (youtube it)., pkk is defending itself and is looking for self-govern in north kurdistan .

    pkk is pretty much in control of syrian kurdistan and it is doing just fine, you cant decide on the behalf of kurds, if kurds are happy with pkk and not the turkish occupiers then they have a right to this.
     
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    Leader of Muslim Brotherhood Opposes Kurdish Entity in Syria

    AMSTERDAM, Netherlands – The Syrian Muslim Brotherhood’s secretary general, Mohammed Riad al-Shaqfa, emphasized his party’s rejection of a Kurdish entity being established in Syria.

    In an interview with the Turkish newspaper Cumhuriyet, Shaqfa revealed the Muslim Brotherhood’s worries regarding developments in the Kurdish areas of Syria, and stated that there is no such a thing as a “Kurdish region” in the country.

    “There is no one single purely Kurdish area in Syria and the Kurds are a minority in northeastern areas since they live with other components of Syrian society there,” Shaqfa told Cumhuriyet.

    He added, “We clearly oppose the ambitions of establishing a Kurdish entity in Syria.”

    Most research estimates Syrian Kurds make up between 12 and 15 percent of the population in Syria. However, Shaqfa claims, “The Kurds in Syria do not constitute more than 5 percent.”

    Shaqfa’s statements angered many Syrian Kurdish activists and politicians, and caused controversy between the different revolutionary forces in Syria.

    Massoud Akko, a prominent Syrian Kurdish activist and member of the Syrian Journalists Association (SJA), told Rudaw on Thursday that the statements by the leader of the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood went too far.

    “This is not the first time for Riad al-Shaqfa to issue such flawed statements about the Kurds,” Akko said. “Neither Shaqfa and his group nor any other opposition party know the precise percentage of Kurdish people in Syria.”

    He added, “The Kurdish population … should be based on the results of research, not by issuing baseless statements in this regard, because there was never a neutral or official census concerning the Syrian Kurds.”

    “My advice to Mr. Riad al-Shaqfa and his entire group is to read more about the Kurds before issuing any statement; otherwise, it would be better for them to shut up,” Akko concluded.

    According to Akko, such hostile statements by opposition leaders against the Kurds reinforce the divisions in Syria.

    “Shaqfa and his group reveal their hostility to the Kurdish people, and that doesn’t serve the revolution and its goals. I think that such a position represents a serious danger to the future of the Kurdish people and their issue in Syria, in the case that the Muslim Brotherhood rules the country someday,” Akko said.

    He continued, “They should review these shameful statements and attitudes which basically spread a spirit of hatred between them and the Kurdish people.”

    Regarding the establishment of a Kurdish entity in Syria, Akko stated, “That is one of the legitimate rights for Kurds in Syria according to all the international conventions and the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights. The Kurds are a nation and it is their legitimate and unquestionable right to be an independent entity and enjoy their sovereignty on their own land.”

    However, Akko noted that none of the Kurdish factions have demanded that an independent Kurdish entity be established in Syria, and that their ultimate demand is for a decentralized federal state as is found in Germany, Switzerland, the U.S and the U.A.E.

    An alternative demand is the right to a self-governed Kurdish region where the Kurds can enjoy an autonomous administrative rule, a right they have been deprived of for decades under different Syrian governments.

    Akko argued that a Kurdish state is a right, and any denial of this by any party or opposition faction is unacceptable and should be condemned by all Kurds.

    “The main question remains whether it can be implemented, because this issue is relevant to the geopolitical circumstances in the region,” Akko said, also noting the importance of international support towards reaching this Kurdish ambition.

    “Anyway, nothing is impossible,” he concluded. “Where there’s a will, there is a way.”

    http://www.rudaw.net/english/news/syria/5231.html
     
  3. alan131210

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    ^^ like they are the rep of kurds in syria and UN spokesmen, :lol:
     
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    Over 22 million Kurds in Turkey, new statistic shows

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    ERBIL, Sep. 20 (AKnews) – New statistics released by Turkey’s statistical institute, TurkStat, shows that about 30 percent of the country’s population is Kurdish.

    According to birth records of Kurds in Turkey that was released by TurkStat, there are 22,691,824 Kurds in Turkey who mainly live in the southeast, Rudaw Newspaper, an Erbil-based weekly reported Thursday.

    Turkey’s first population census was conducted in 1927 which showed the number of Kurds to be 2,323,359 out of 13,464,564 as the total population of the country.

    According to TurkStat reports, the number of Kurds was about 14.733 million in 2012 which included only the number of Kurds living in cities. The census excluded Kurds who lived in villages and moved to cities after about 4,000 villages were destroyed by Turkish authorities on security grounds between 1997 and 2000.

    http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/7/327238/?AKmobile=true
    http://rojhelat.info/en/?p=3702
     
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    when Muslim Brotherhood will finished of Assad they take on Kurds , so my friends be prepared, contact Israel , Russia , China get arms and training
     
  6. JamesVanArtevelde

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    It is true that I can't decide for the Kurds. Nor do I want to. But the PKK is a terrorist and anti-democratic organization. Kurds who choose to follow the PKK choose to isolate themselves from the world and play in the hands of those regimes that seek to suppress the Kurds.
     
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    ^they (kurds) are not in position to choose something ....
     
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    :omfg: Wait why do the Kurds support Israel again? :no:
     
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    they got no other friends(or "friends") in the region...
     
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    When I made the current phrase my signature this was precisely the type BS I was referring to.
     
  11. alan131210

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    Looking for Friends in the Middle East: Try the Kurds

    Angry mobs recently attacked U.S. diplomatic facilities in dozens of countries, but not everyone in the Muslim world hates America. More than 25 million Kurds in Iraq, Iran, Syria and Turkey are largely secular and pro-Western. Kurds understand that democracy and individual rights are compatible with Islamic values. The United States should take steps to consolidate friendly relations with the Kurds. U.S.-Kurdish rapprochement would serve as a counter-weight to political demagogy and Islamist extremism. It can also leverage reforms in countries where Kurds reside.

    A steely-eyed approach is needed towards governments in the region. Iraq's Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has shunned U.S. interests. He also pursues polarizing policies, which fuel sectarian and ethnic conflict between Iraqis. Baghdad scorns Iraq's constitution, preferring confrontation to power-sharing. It systematically encroaches on Kurdish territory, inflaming tensions along "disputed internal boundaries." The Iraqi Government uses its security apparatus to trample the rights of Iraq's Sunnis and target political opponents. Acting as a proxy for Iran, it facilitates the transfer of weapons from Tehran to Syria.


    In contrast, Iraqi Kurds are unabashedly pro-American. Not a single American has died in Iraqi Kurdistan since Saddam's overthrow in 2003. Iraqi Kurdistan has functioning democratic institutions, a vibrant civil society and an independent media. While corruption is still a problem, Iraqi Kurdistan is less corrupt than most neighbors.


    Iraqi Kurds are America's best and only friends in Iraq. To further strengthen U.S.-Kurdish amity, the United States should deepen security cooperation with the Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG). While Baghdad rejected a status of forces agreement with the United States, the KRG welcomes it. The Pentagon should cancel its sale of Abrams-A1 tanks and F-16 fighter jets to Baghdad. Such weapons will most likely be used against Iraqis, rather than to protect Iraq from Iran and other rogue regimes with which Baghdad has cozy relations.


    The KRG's relations with Turkey have vastly improved since it started sharing intelligence on the PKK, a terrorist organization with remote bases in the mountains of Iraqi Kurdistan. Working hand-in-hand with Turkey, Iraqi Kurdistan may one day become the Eastern flank of NATO.
    The United States also stands to gain economically by partnering with the KRG. Iraqi Kurdistan has a booming economy and huge energy reserves, including 45 billion barrels of oil. U.S. energy companies should be encouraged to develop Iraqi Kurdistan's oil and natural gas fields notwithstanding Baghdad's objections.


    When it comes to Syria, KRG President Masoud Barzani is playing a helpful role bridging gaps between Syrian Kurds. In the 1990s, Kurdish controlled territory in the northeast of Syria was a staging ground for the PKK, which the U.S. and EU consider a terrorist organization. To prevent a recurrence, the Obama administration should pro-actively engage factions of Syrian Kurds to establish a secular, pro-Western platform within Syria. Kurdish democratic aspirations can be realized peacefully, in cooperation with Turkey and the West.


    Regardless of the outcome to Syria's civil war, the United States will have no friends in Syria except the Kurds. The Alawites deeply resent the West for abandoning them. Arab Sunni rebels feel let down by the United States; Washington is rightly reluctant to arm the Muslim Brotherhood lest its weapons eventually target U.S. interests.


    In Iran, more can be done to provide political support to the Kurdish Iranian opposition. Iranian Kurds want to replace Iran's theocracy with a federal democratic state. They supported the 2009 Green Revolution and have links to both the Iranian opposition and oppressed minorities -- Arabs, Baluchis, and Azeris. Deposing the mullahs is the best to ensure that Iran does not cross the nuclear threshold.


    U.S.-Kurdish regional rapprochement will be deeply unsettling to Turkey. The Obama administration will have to bend over backwards to reassure Turkey that its affinity for Kurds does not imply support for "Greater Kurdistan" or compromise its strategic partnership between Turkey and the United States.
    Focusing on the Kurds might ultimately create conditions benefiting Turkey. Prime Minister Erdogan announced a "Democracy Opening" in 2010, aimed at addressing Kurdish grievances. However, he failed to deliver on promises for greater political and cultural rights. When Washington makes Kurdish issues a priority in the region, Erdogan might decide it is expedient to renew his commitment to Kurdish cultural and political rights, addressing the root causes of conflict and draining the swamp of support for the PKK.

    Iraqi Kurds are proven, reliable partners. Washington should also nurture the pro-Western affinities of other Kurds. The United States must not take its friends for granted, while trying to placate its enemies.

    David L. Phillips is Director of the Program on Peace-building and Rights at Columbia University's Institute for the Study of Human Rights.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-phillips/iraqi-kurds_b_1912568.html
     
  12. HBendor

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    Thank you for the illustration, many with twisted minds on this PF will disagree, when realistically things as they are... the Kurds are deservedly and rightfully so, entitled to their independence on their lands... Long live Kurdistan!
     

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