Texas Police Execute One Armed One Legged Man WheelChair Bound Man

And I raise you a straw man because it DOESN'T (*)(*)(*)(*)ING MATTER BECAUSE THIS GUY ISN'T BRIAN CLAUNCH.

STRAW. MAN. Athlete who was born with a disability and had a lifetime to learn to compensate (as well as another arm) is not man who requires MANAGED CARE.

And how about you not bringing up athletes, martial artists, and Navy SEALS and use another man in managed care missing TWO LIMBS instead of one? Should I expect you to be able to bench press 350lbs because some men can?

Seriously, can you be more dishonest or do you just not understand understand that apples and oranges taste differently?

 

Just think of the type of cops we are going to have after lowering the testing requirements!

 

Well, as always, if new facts come out I am open to changing my mind. Based on what we know so far I hope he's arrested. He won't be. I know that. Because he's a cop. If you did the same thing you would be in jail.

 

Apparently the one in the OP cannot tell a pen from a Glock. How much worse can it get? And given he let himself get "trapped" by a one armed man in a wheel chair I'm sure he had to look.

 

Because the man refused their orders as they tried to defuse the situation, because he is the one we pay to go into that room and put themselves at risk.

I guess they could have just refuse to answer the call.

 

They gave him two minutes. That was the length of time they were in there before blowing off a cripple's head. That's all the time they were in there. In that amount of time they allegedly got cornered by a crippled mental patient and attempted to talk him into dropping the felt tip before blowing the back of his head open.

Gosh, you're right. What excellent cops and true humanitarians. I'll be sure to call them when I need help with grandma.

 

[h=1]Woman Stabbed With Pen on Subway[/h]http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Woman-Stabbed-With-Pencil-on-Subway.html

[h=1]Lakewood Police investigating apparent homicide at Western State Hospital, weapon likely a pen or pencil[/h]
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crim...-patient-stabbed-with-apparent-pen-or-pencil/

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A Comic-Con attendee stabbed another near the eye with a pen Saturday after they got into an argument over whether one was sitting too close to the other, police said.
The injured man, in his 20s, was taken to a hospital with a minor cut, said San Diego Police Officer David Stafford. The attacker, also in his 20s, was arrested and booked for assault with a deadly weapon, he said."
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-25/...omic-con-fanboys-and-fangirls-pen?_s=PM:CRIME


[h=1]Student Stabbed To Death With Pens And Pencils[/h]http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/240816/student_stabbed_to_death_with_pens_and_pencils

[h=1]Defendant Loses Right to a Lawyer After Allegedly Stabbing 3 of Them with Pencils or Pens in Court[/h]http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/defendant_loses_right_to_a_lawyer_after_stabbing_three_of_them_with_pencils/

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crim...ed-with-apparent-pen-or-pencil/#storylink=cpy
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We're off to see the Wizard....

 

Ahh on what basis do you make the leap from they were just talking to him and they just blew his head off? Noting in between?

 

They are both amputees and the assertions that amputees are by definition incapable of any physicals acts is utter nonsense as Claunch clear demonostrates.

Managed care for mental problems not physical and two years after the accident during which time therapy can teach people to do all sorts of physical activities while they build up the muscles in the remaining limbs.

How about you not insulting the handicapped as if they are totally helpless individuals?

Seriously where did you get the fallacious notion that people missing limbs are totally disabled and unable to accomplish physical task?

 

Meaning what? I posted clear examples of the pens and pencils being used as deadly weapons to refute the implied assertions that that would be nonsense. Do you now admit that a pen or a pencil can be used to kill or seriously injure someone? In the one case the person is lucky to have one of the eyes after the attack. Are police required to give up an eye instead of using force even deadly force to stop an attacker?

 

No.

Someone being threatened with imminent deadly force justifies the use of deadly force.

Someone being threatened with injury does not.

 

What facts have closed your mind? Based on what we know why do you hope he will be arrested? If I did the same thing and stopped someone who was threatening serious injury or even death to innocent people I'd be called a hero. If the cops had refuse to go and stop him what would you be calling them?

 

Your point?

 

Stop the baseless conjecture. What is the premise of your claim it was needless? And since when is threatening with a deadly weapon merely disrespecting? And what is the premise it was in cold blood? Do you know what that means? If so please reconcile it with the facts known else admit it was not a cold blooded killing.

 

Two minutes is not that long. Here's the real issue now. They have no witnesses to commiting murder. Without witnesses, they can claim self-defense, and just because they are LEO, their word is G-O-O-O-D. Bull sh*t!!!!! They know that they could get away with it because they are LEO and no one can challenge their statement, the only witness being dead and all......
Everyone knows LEO NEVER lie.......sure, and the sky is upside down amd inside out.
Regardless, they are unconstitutional and illegal by description. I say replace all of them with peace officers and trash all LEO's.
But that's ok, their day will come and things will be a whole lot different, especially for them.
IMO, LEO will probably end up cannon fodder if and when the revolution starts.

 

It probably seemed an eternity to the officers in the room, but apparently it was the perpetrator who brought it to a close.

What is the basis of your claim it was murder?

 

I think it quite clear, the attempts to dismiss the danger this crazied man presented because it was "just a Sharpie".

 

Well, it does no such thing. He presented next to no danger given he could hardly carry out a sneak sharpie attack on the cops staring right at him. And if they cannot subdue a one armed, wheel chair bound man with a sharpie for a "weapon" without shooting him in the head I submit they need to consider working at Taco Bell. At least the only danger would be people getting the wrong order.

Further, did any of the people in your examples get shot in the head? Or anywhere else? Or were they subdued using other means? Appears as though you can indeed handle the old pen-as-weapon scenario through less violent means. Seems to me you are suggesting that anyone with anything that could be used as a weapon (which is a lot of stuff to be sure) can be shot in the head if anyone at all feels "threatened" by said salad spinner.

 

Its Texas. What else do I have to say?

 

Two minutes? Here's some more straws you can grasp at while you're thinking of other statistically improbable exceptions of amputees...





Keep searching tho, I'm sure at some point you will find an amputee with limbs only on one side of his body that also has schizophrenia and was able to kill two grown men with a felt tip marker...while you're at it, grab those monkeys that came up with the complete works of Shakespeare while typing.

 

I think its quite clear that you're calling these cops a bunch of girlie men who couldn't take down a man in a wheelchair with limbs only on one side of his body.

See how I did that?

 

Based on your statement, anytime a LEO can claim self-defense is good enough for you. Everytime a LEO is charged or investigated, the good ol' self defense statement goes in and usually acceptable.
If you and I are face to face, as civilians, I pull out a sharpie, you shoot me dead, you're going to prison. Period. You cannot claim self defense by shooting a man armed with a sharpie, even after the fact. The usual jury will find you guilty of manslaughter in the very least.
A stinkin' LEO can claim it everytime and 99.9% of the time it is justified.
Like I said, their day is comming and then justice will prevail, instead of the BS laws the LEO enforces with deadly force. It always does.
You may be on the wrong side of the fence, here......

 

I could not help but notice, you never addressed the issue of a standing army, per se`, military styled weapons, military tactics against a civilian population. War on Crime. Leo are the soldiers of the War on Crime.
Then you are in agreement that this is illegal and unlawful according to the Constitution.......

 

They are justified in using deadly force as a last resort, not as a knee-jerk reaction to every potentially dangerous situation.