So if the US was founded on "Christian Values"....

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  1. Vicariously I

    Vicariously I Well-Known Member

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    So your answer would be no the US was not founded on Christian values?
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Human beings are not perfect. Morals and values outline basic humanity. Would you rather live in anarchy?
     
  3. Vicariously I

    Vicariously I Well-Known Member

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    But if this is the moral superiority Christians claim they can keep it.
     
  4. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Slave ships had rules but I think most slaves would have rather lived in anarchy instead of by the slave ship's rules.
     
  5. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    That fails to address the question.
     
  6. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Christianity pretty much borrows from a slew of other cultures and religions.
     
  7. Heretic

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    Wrong like always Wolverine, it is YOU and the other ZIONISTS who STEAL from TRUE CHRISTIANITY. You are a cultural parasite, and you depend on TRUE CHRISTIANITY to exist. We are the host. You are the parasite. Notice how you build your life around MOCKING GOD and TRUE CHRISTIANS. But, you're not funny. And nobody is laughing. You're wasting your time, and actually making a fool out of YOURSELF.

    To you, God is a "flying spaghetti monster". This proves your lack of intelligence and imagination, and we all know, that's what you really believe. This shows that you have distanced yourself from God. SEEK HIM. FOLLOW HIM.
     
  8. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    The Flying Spaghetti Monster is a theisitic enity, I do not believe in a theistic deity (far too paradoxial as you already know). So how can I believe in the FSM?
     
  9. DoneEatingGrass

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    Although, I see your point. I would also like to point out that its not just Christianity, that suffers from radical idealists. Christianity, is not to blame for all the things that SOME christians do, in error. Same can be said about Zionists, Occupiers, Zeitgeists, Nazis, Democrats, Republicans, Americans, Canadians, and Human beings in general.

    More onto the OP...

    The bible, is a very good book of morals, as one of my best friends pointed out so accurately. How some people interpret what the bible, and thus the word of God is telling people, is based on the eyes of the beholder. As far as making the current Christians, accountable, for the mistakes of their fore bearers, is insane. No one alive, knows exactly why the Christians of the time reacted to the world as they did. This is no way a justification, but just a fact. People in general, do things with the best intentions, which is often fraught with disappointment.

    I do not believe that the OP has any ground to point the finger at Christians, since despite what lines in the sand the OP has drawn to in order to exclude themselves from the OP, in my opinion, they are equally guilty. This is based on the premise of the OP.
     
  10. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    The premise of the OP is to help the Christians trip over their show laces once again. They claim the US was founded on Christian values, so I was interested to see if they thought these values also included the three things cited in OP.
     
  11. DoneEatingGrass

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    So, again, because of some radicals in the Christian faith, you are questioning Christianity as a whole? I don't believe that is logical. The values of Christianity, is valid. However, how some people interpret those values, is where things become flawed.
     
  12. robini123

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    I have read the Constitution. Perhaps you do not understand that people can have differing perspectives... that two people can read the same thing and have very different views on it. Constitutional law has been argued for a couple hundred years now... and why... perspective. I respect your view, but I disagree.
     
  13. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    So only radicals claim that the US was based on Christian values?

    I don't think so.

    I don't need radicals to question Christianity. Christianity is nonsensical, only the the slightest degree of critical thinking skills is required to question that which makes absolutely no sense.
     
  14. Vanka

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    So quit just making claims and give us your "perspective". Show us something (again ANYTHING) from the constitution, you say you've read, and explain to us how that part of the contitution came from uniquely Christian values. I've challenged theists repeatedly to do this. So put up or shut up. If you can't backup your claim you don't have one. All your're doing is blowing smoke and, frankly, I'm getting bored. You got nothing pal!
     
  15. robini123

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    I already have. We see things differently and will probably never agree. I have backed up my claim, you either fail to understand my views or you reject them. Tis a Free Country and I am happy we can disagree.
     
  16. Vanka

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    Really? Please refresh my memory. What clause, article or ammendment to the constitution did you use? Oh yea that's right you didn't! So to say you "already have" is just more BS. I rest my case! You got nothin!
     

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