Harry Reid Pledges to Stonewall Any Romney Agenda

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  1. Max Frost

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    Bush reached out and got cooperation and things passed. Obama reached out and got told our number priority is you being a one term President.
     
  2. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    Not The Guardian: "Do you mean like McConnell was the day Obama was elected?"

    "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president."




    That is an outright lie. Dems tell lies so often that eventually they believe their own lies. This one has been repeated way too often. McConnell actually said that on 10/23/2010.....on the eve of the Congressional election and almost TWO YEARS after Obama had been in office. In fact, here's that entire interview....so that maybe the lies about it will stop.

    McConnell made his remarks in an interview that appeared in the National Journal on Oct. 23, 2010 — nearly two years after Obama was elected president. The interview took place on the eve the of the midterm elections. The interview is relatively short, so we will print it in its entirety, with key portions highlighted.

    NJ: You’ve been studying the history of presidents who lost part or all of Congress in their first term. Why?

    McConnell: In the last 100 years, three presidents suffered big defeats in Congress in their first term and then won reelection: Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, and the most recent example, Bill Clinton. I read a lot of history anyway, but I am trying to apply those lessons to current situations in hopes of not making the same mistakes.

    NJ: What have you learned?

    McConnell: After 1994, the public had the impression we Republicans overpromised and underdelivered. We suffered from some degree of hubris and acted as if the president was irrelevant and we would roll over him. By the summer of 1995, he was already on the way to being reelected, and we were hanging on for our lives.​
    NJ: What does this mean now?

    McConnell: We need to be honest with the public. This election is about them, not us. And we need to treat this election as the first step in retaking the government. We need to say to everyone on Election Day, “Those of you who helped make this a good day, you need to go out and help us finish the job.”

    NJ: What’s the job?

    McConnell: The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.

    NJ: Does that mean endless, or at least frequent, confrontation with the president?​
    McConnell: If President Obama does a Clintonian backflip, if he’s willing to meet us halfway on some of the biggest issues, it’s not inappropriate for us to do business with him.

    NJ: What are the big issues?

    McConnell: It is possible the president’s advisers will tell him he has to do something to get right with the public on his levels of spending and [on] lowering the national debt. If he were to heed that advice, he would, I imagine, find more support among our conference than he would among some in the Senate in his own party. I don’t want the president to fail; I want him to change. So, we’ll see. The next move is going to be up to him.

    NJ: What will you seek from the president on the tax issue?

    McConnell: At the very least, I believe we should extend all of the Bush tax cuts. And I prefer to describe this as keeping current tax policy. It’s been on the books for 10 years. Now, how long that [extension] is, is something we can discuss. It was clear his position was not [favored] among all Senate Democrats. They had their own divisions. I don’t think those divisions are going to be any less in November and December.​

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...9fd5cd8-0696-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_blog.html
     
  3. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really?

    That's reaching out? When you start slapping faces like that, expect to get slapped back HARD!
     
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    Zxereus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's so sad that we were unable to get rid of Reid in '10.
    IMO had a regular Republican been the nominee instead of Sharon Angle, this prick would now be collecting his pension and living out his days on an island somewhere.
     
  5. Craftsman

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    Typical conservative, play the game as long as you think you are wining, then change the rules as soon as you lose.
    Pathetic.
     
  6. Craftsman

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    Easy win when your up against a total nut job *********.
     
  7. jackson33

    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You need to realize, this statement was made well after the Stimulus, Obamacare, Cash for Clunkers and a host of other failed programs had passed both houses without any republican support, during those first two years. The entire 2010 Elections were to stop the advance of a dictatorship and it WORKED.


    REID, is really a different story in that he would shut down Government, if the Dem's maintain the Senate, pretty much what he did during the last two years of this Government. In many cases he tabled programs, simply because he couldn't get a vote to stop something, which if VETOED by Obama, would make him look bad.

    If the Senate goes Republican, I think it will, it would be my guess Reid will retire early. It's unlikely he will run in 2014 or even if he could win re-election (I doubt) and gain back the Senate, would he be chose their leader. He's not in the best of health and 73 and certainly has raised questions about his mental state.
     
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    Thats an outright lie.
     
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    It won't.
     
  10. JP5

    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    How and when did Obama reach out? Name some times....where he asked any Republican to be involved in writing any legislation. Name a time when he included them from the start....and not after Dems had already decided how it would be and only insisted Republicans sign on "as is."

    Besides, as I just posted McConnell make that statement in Oct 2010, not on "day one" as Dems tell it. It was in the context of an interview on the eve of the Congressional election.....and even then in that interview he said they would work with Obama IF he worked with them on a compromise basis.
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    I already gave my proof of how it's true. If you're going to call something a lie, you must provide your proof.
     
  12. Max Frost

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    Here is large list of things Obama reached out to republicans on and even got some cooperation but always at a cost. Health care reform was one for instance. Democrates really wanted a public option but to try to get republicans on board Obama scraped that.
    From a site interestingly enough called Republicans for Obama lol.
    http://www.republicansforobama.org/firstterm

    Domestic Policy

    Tax Cuts

    In February, 2009, Obama signed the American Recovery and Investment Act, which included $288 billion in tax cuts, arguably the largest tax cuts in American history. These cuts included a payroll tax credit of $400 per worker and $800 per married couple in 2009 and 2010, and an extension of revisions in the Alternative Minimum Tax, which saved middle-class Americans $70 billion. Additionally, the legislation included over $30 billion in tax cuts for American businesses.

    In December, 2010, President Obama signed a $858 tax cut bill into law, after almost equal numbers of Democrats and Republicans voted in support of the legislation. The package extended tax cuts signed by President Bush, cut payroll taxes by 2% for a year, and extended unemployment benefits for 13 months. Of the tax cuts, Obama stated, “I know there are different aspects of this plan to which members of Congress, on both sides of the aisle, object. That's the nature of compromise. But we worked hard to negotiate an agreement that's a win for middle-class families and a win for our economy."

    Bipartisan Budget Commission

    In February, 2010, President Obama signed an executive order creating the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. The Commission’s purpose was to identify "…policies to improve the fiscal situation in the medium term and to achieve fiscal sustainability over the long run.” The Commission included both Republicans and Democrats, including former Republican Senator Alan Simpson, current Republican Senators Judd Gregg, Tom Coburn and Mike Crapo, and current Republican members of the house, including the Chair of the House Budget Committee, Paul Ryan.

    After meeting for several months, the Commission released its final recommendations in December 2010.

    Health Care Reform

    Throughout the health care reform debates of 2009 and 2010, President Obama refused to commit to either a single-payer health care system, favored by liberal Democrats, or a government-sponsored public option-- the favored choice among other Democrats. Instead, the President focused on enacting legislation that would cover the vast majority of Americans and lower health care costs, even if it was not the first choice of liberal activists.

    On March 23, 2010, President Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act into law. According to the Congressional Budget Office, the law will cut the federal deficit by $138 billion over 10 years.

    The Affordable Care Act has been compared to the health care law Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney enacted four years earlier when he served as the Governor of Massachusetts. Romney’s law created exchanges designed to increase competition in the purchase of health insurance and included a requirement that every individual purchase health insurance.

    Early in Obama's first term, Mitt Romney urged the President to enact healthcare legislation similar to that which he signed into law in Massachusetts.

    The Affordable Care Act has been compared to health care legislation co-sponsored by 19 Republican Senators in 1993, including current Republican Senators Chuck Grassley, Orrin Hatch and Richard Lugar. Mitt Romney supported this legislation.

    The 1993 Republican bill called for government subsidies to low-income individuals and families to help them purchase their own health coverage, and included a requirement for individuals to purchase health insurance. Both of these provisions are supported by 2012 Republican Presidential Candidate Newt Gingrich.

    Said former Republican Senator from Minnesota David Durenberger soon after the Affordable Care Act passed, “the legislation which President Obama signed is the best we can do as a nation… right now. It is historic. The commitment to universal access to health care through universal insurance coverage is the law of the land.”

    In the words of Norman Ornstein, of the conservative think tank The American Enterprise Institute (AEI):

    “The Democrats' health-reform plan includes no public option and relies on managed competition through exchanges set up much like those for federal employees. The individual mandate in the plan sprang from a Heritage Foundation idea that was endorsed years ago by a range of conservatives and provided the backbone of the Massachusetts plan that was crafted and, until recently, heartily defended by Mitt Romney. It would be fair to describe the new act as Romneycare crossed with the managed-competition bill proposed in 1994 by Republican Sens. John Chafee, David Durenberger, Charles Grassley and Bob Dole -- in other words, as a moderate Republican plan.”

    Included the in the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 are provisions which:
    Eliminate lifetime limits on insurance coverage
    Prevent health insurance companies from denying coverage because of a pre-existing condition
    Allow young adults to remain on parents' insurance until age 26.
    Provide subsidies for individuals and families and are not covered by an employer to purchase their own insurance.
    Creates healthcare exchanges for uninsured people to purchase coverage at competitive rates.
    Gives people on Medicare new access to free preventive services such as screenings for cancer and diabetes.
    Closes the "doughnut hole" gap in Medicare Part-D by 2020.
    Slows spending increases for Medicare beneficiaries to 2% per year, from the current rate of 4% a year.

    Sources: CNN, CSM, NYT,

    In June, the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act.

    Other Domestic Policy Achievements

    In January, 2010, President Obama accepted an invitation to speak at the GOP House Issues Conference in Baltimore, answering questions from the GOP leadership and offering to work across the aisle to help solve the nation’s most pressing problems.

    In February, 2010, President Obama signed the “Pay-Go” rule into law, restoring a requirement that the federal government spend only what it can afford. That June, the President directed federal agencies to develop plans for disposing of unneeded real estate and eliminate unnecessary or non-economical lands and properties.

    President Obama has called for the repeal of the capital gains tax for small businesses, has proposed a three-year freeze on federal discretionary spending beginning in 2011 and is in the process of cutting 120 federal programs identified as either wasteful or unnecessary.

    In his 2011 State of the Union Address, President Obama called for investments in the nation’s infrastructure, a call that was applauded by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

    During the first three years of the Obama Presidency, the number of government employees dropped 2.6%-- a record reduction, and a larger decrease than that overseen by President Reagan during his first three years in office.

    In January of this year, President Barack Obama proposed consolidating six trade and commerce agencies within the federal government, a measure that would further reduce the number of federal employees and cut costs.

    Under President Obama, the private sector has added jobs every month since April, 2010.
     
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    As I see it the Senate will be 53R/47D, but then I am partisan. If it's 50/50 which is basically the consensus, Romney the P, Ryan will be the tie breaker and Reid will retire.
     
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    Except we'd be winning.
     
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    There's a time to compromise and a time to stick to your position, but no one should ever be pledging to stonewall everything and anything over nothing more than partisan politics. Reid is being as much of a prick as every republican who refused to negotiate with Obama.
     
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    Then IF the cooperation was so wonderful, why is Obama always whining? Yes, he named an Economic Commission....they did release a report and he blew them off; didn't take the ball and run with it; just let it go. Same thing he did when he called business leaders in for "talks" to supposedy listen to their complaints and get their suggestions on what he could do to help. Again....he blew them off; didn't do anything they said would help. Never heard anymore about it. He names commissions, etc......because he doesn't know what the hell to do. He's not a business person; never has been. He's a Community Organizer.
    And now, just recently trying to save his own ass, he says he'll name a Secretary of Business. Laughable. Why doesn't he just paint a sign on his forehead: "I don't have a clue."
     
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    JP5 Former Moderator Past Donor

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    It's about the country "winning" now. IF we don't act together to cut this over-spending, we'll look just like Greece soon. It's imperative this gets fixed....and that they finally get serious about fixing it.
     
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    What Republican refused to negotiate with Obama? I know a few who refused to capitulate to give Obama everything he wanted and getting nothing in return. But no Republican has refused to negotiate.
     
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    1) I guess Reid agrees with me that Romney will win.

    2) How can Reid say he will block anything when supposedly no one knows what romney's plan is?
     
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    Boo. That's what got us in this situation in the first place.

    On a side note, republicans can't be saying anything about their behavior in congress.
     
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    Since all of the posters here have zero personal debt and balanced home budgets maybe they will be appointed to run the government's finances and budget in 2013.
     
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    Yes! What we need is a conservative dictatorship like the one Obama had! You are so idealistic!
     
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    I have zero personal debt, zero business debt, zero credit cards, and paid cash for my home, vehicles and boats. I guarantee I could balance the federal budget....

    but I'm afraid you'd starve to death in the street.
     
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    You should apply for a government executive position. If the feds won't hire you maybe the State will. A lot of companies are losing money. They could use a good chief financial officer. You should be able to write your own ticket at any number of places.
     
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    Not a sane individual.I'm at the point now where I think somehow Obama personally
    got to those in his circle and had them Druged,doped or professionally hypnotized.
    Because that would make sense.The way those in Obama's circle act is not even close
    to being sane.Need I mention the many crazed comments and near rabid-eyed responces
    by V.P. Biden.
    I think it is possible that Obama somehow had Global Elites Dope or Brainwash those
    in Cabinet capacity.I mean,explain how Hillary Clinton could make a comment about
    Benghazi security in laughing tones,exactly the same way she chuckled about Gaddahfi
    getting assassinated.
    This is not a sane,rational,patriotic Adm.They are Literally CRAZED.
    There's something seriously going on here.
    Could it be Brainwashing/Hypnosis.And why couldn't it be.
    It would be the most expedient way of surefire Corruption and a Power
    grab.The easiset way to impliment a Coup.
     

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