Obama: Mass Amnesty Coming "Very Soon"

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Disagree, once amnesty goes through there will be less money being paid under the table to illegal Mexicans, and more tax money going to the government to pay for expenditures like welfare.

    There will always be more people who want to work, than people who don't want to work.
     
  2. GeddonM3

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    not once u have created a nation of dependent losers. sorry, making workers suffer harder because someone doesnt have enough welfare is not a good plan at all.
     
  3. liberalminority

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    They aren't created, its a choice. Some people always choose to work, and others always choose not to work, so Amnesty will just give illegal Mexicans free choice to go one way or the other.

    Not all illegal Mexicans want to go on welfare, they wouldn't work for low wages if that were the case. So the ones that choose to go on welfare, will be paid by the ones that choose to go to work.

    It's a similar system of what we have now, with everyone else.
     
  4. FreshAir

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    yeah, cause your party has done so well at it, to me it sounds like both sides are for it, so I would guess this is one they will both work on together
     
  5. Nikolaos

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    The message would have been more effective if Cain had won the nomination. He could have also talked about why it's a bad idea to makes millions of illegals citizens while black unemployment is above 14%. I don't like it but the reality is that many people are emotional rather than logical. If you can take away the emotionalism of the issue when race is evoked in the debate or at least try to minimise it then it can be discussed with more focus on the tangible pros and cons of any suggested policy.
     
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    I sued to think illegal immigration was a big problem because it drives down wages, and increases the use of social services while reducing input into the systems from lower wages.

    Then I realized that the only thing that creates this problem is the fact that they are illegal. Now if more illegals come in to replace the one's who were made legal, then that is a problem. However, if they create a system with a heavy penalty for employers, accompanied by a system that would allow them to easily comply with the law, then amnesty shouldn't prevent this from occurring!
     
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    A collapsing economy will fuel economic and racial strife. Government no longer effective. The faster
    it collapses the better. Out of chaos something better can be structured.
    Mother Nature has issued our uniforms of war, our skin color. Bring it on!
     
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    How can Obama promise a mass amnesty when he does not control the House of Representatives?
     
  9. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here we go again.

    So...once these low wage Illegal immigrants, (who are only hired en masse because they dont have to be paid as much), are made citizens and are protected by minimum wage and other labor laws...guess whats going to happen to them?

    Thats right, they'll be fired and those companies will bring in another round of illegals. meanwhile we'll all get to enjoy XXX Million more on the unemployed rolls. If companies wanted to pay 10-15 bucks an hour to pick oranges, they would have hired americans in the first place.


    Sounds like a sound plan.
     
  10. Lil Mike

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    Well employers are still counting on illegal aliens for that. The bunch granted amnesty will depress wage rates for legal residents, and then a new bunch of illegals can be hired to replace the last batch that got amnesty. For the Wall Street Journal, it's a win/win.
     

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