Democrats Get Thier Piddly 88 billion in tax raises. What then?

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  1. kenrichaed

    kenrichaed Banned

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    Both need to be done away with.
     
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    Simple question. Why does US need a budget that is more than the next 19 countries on the list combined?

    You mean like those senseless murders via drone attacks at weddings at the like in many countries. Yes, revenge is indeed a human trait and those people are indeed humans in case you forgot.


    Quite possibly. But anyone who argues that one needs to be done away with and not the other is a hopeless hypocrite.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is just the beginning. . .and it breaks the Nordquist pledge. . .great progress!

    There will also be cut in social welfare. . .but I hope there will be much greater cuts in CORPORATE welfare AND in defense.

     
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    Welcome to the Tea Party ideology. :)
     
  5. SiliconMagician

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    "Just the beginning?" What are you thinking? If you think you're going to see a reinstatement of Carter era tax rates but only for the rich you're hallucinating. The Democrats can't just tax the rich whatever they want without serious political consequences.

    I remind you that any tax raises will largely be minimized by Democrats making backroom deals with favored rich persons.



    I keep heaaring this crap about defense but again I hear very little specifics. How combat brigades are you willing to cut? How many carriers do you want to scrap? How many Fighter squadrons and bomber wings does America need IYO?

    All these defense experts yet not a one of you can tell me exactly how big our military really is, what its missions around the world are, and which missions and regions of the world you are willing to completely abandon.
     
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    Tanks, yes, artillery no. There will always be a use for artillery to soften enemy positions, slow the advance of the enemy, and cover the retreat of American troops. Tanks aren't so useful anymore because enemy tanks can be taken out by aircraft, but IFV's (infantry fighting vehicles) will continue to be a valuable asset in the 20th century as a lightly armored tracked vehicle that works closely with infantry. We are getting smarter, by the way, making MLRS (multiple launch rocket system) vehicles lighter, faster, cheaper, and more agile by building them on a Hemmit chasis. We're moving away from tracked vehicles. It would be inaccurate to say that our armed forces are stuck in the past and aren't modernizing.
     
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    My dear sir, when was the last time we needed artillery battalions to soften up enemy positions.

    They can be deleted now.

    The odds of us fighting a land war with China or Russia are remote at best.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how you didn't comment on CORPORATE WELFARE cuts!
     
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    Don't assume that the Liberal definition of a "Solution" to the fiscal problem meets your own.


    The Cloward-Piven Strategy says, CREATE a crisis, then use it to institute a radical, totalitarian, social regime.


    The Liberal definition of Success is total financial collapse.


    They know (*)(*)(*)(*)well what's next, that's the plan!


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    I was in the Army during the OEF, OIF campaigns starting in 2002. With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. Let's let the smart people decide what needs to be cut and what doesn't.
     
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    And we would have lost those campaings without artillery support?

    Doofus
     
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    The Republicans, Libertarians and Conservatives are fighting the wrong battle.


    They are fighting to try to stop the financial collapse.


    The Democrats have set themselves up to profit greatly from the financial collapse.


    As long as the Democrats are fighting to create the financial collapse, you don't stand a chance at preventing it.


    The correct battle to be fighting, is to find a way to make sure the Democrats know that they will LOOSE greatly from the financial collapse. Do that, and the financial collapse will be averted.
     
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    What corporate welfare? You mean the corporate welfare for failing companies like Solyndra? or the corporate welfare that gave 20 million dollars to a fly by night "ecobuilder" to paint rooftops white and only 2 properties have been done?

    How about the corporate welfare to the oil companies that keep gas under 6 bucks a gallon or more? Maybe you can afford Dr. Chu's drooled for European Gas Prices but I can't.

    Or maybe you mean the farming subsidies that all nations on Earth grant to protect thier agricultural products?

    You are too ignorant to even ask the proper questions let alone come up with any answers.
     
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    WRONG! They are anything but stupid or ignorant! They know exactly what the spending excesses will do to the country, they're counting on it.



    They have set things up to profit greatly from the financial collapse. It has the added benefits of it being far easier to destroy than to create, and the process of wrecking things is one were they get to spend huge amounts of money on their buddies.


    For Democrats it is a win, Win, WIN situation.


    Your battle is to make it a win-lose, lose, LOSE situation.


    Then you won't have to fix the financial mess, the Democrats will do it for you.



    You don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of stopping them in a direct confrontation of avert financial collapse vs. cause financial collapse.



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    Actually your going to see the republicans give Obama everything he wants because in the end they know it won't fix the problems and they can say I told you so.
     
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    Puhleeease! They are the biggest bunch of hypocrites and goofballs around and that's saying something.
     
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    How so?
     
  18. Kurmugeon

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    That is about 1/3 of the battle won...


    What do you think the other 2/3s of the winning strategy are?
     
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    Your losing me there.

    Obama has no strategies other then taxing the rich which everyone knows won't fix anything.

    So give it to him I say.
     
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    Of course!! If the tax CUTS were considered 'significant' when they were enacted... then allowing the INCREASES will also be 'significant'.

    I say, LET THE DARNED CUTS EXPIRE!!! (Then we'll talk.)
     
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    Come on. That's like asking someone to explain how the sky is blue. If you can;t see the obvious, no one can explain it to you.
     
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    Your dodging my question rather horribly I might add.

    What is it about the Tea Party you think is bad?
     
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    Then it will be time to tax the middle class......

    ....although there is a good possibility Democrats will bankrupt and collapse the country before they muster the gall.....
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    First they came for the millionaires.....but I wasnt a millionaire so I said nothing.....

    Then they came for those making $250,000......but that wasnt me, so I didnt care

    Then they came for those making $100,000.....because they could afford it

    And then they came for those making $50,000......and there wasnt anyone left to speak out.
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  24. Sadanie

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    What is good about the tea party?

    Most members are uneducated red necks who believe they can keep their medicare without government involvement, cut all social programs and entitlements for the poor and the disabled and still keep the economy growing, and believe that more tax cuts for the wealthy will grow the economy . . .although the contrary has been true since the Bush tax cuts were enacted!

    In addition, they believe that the laws of the US should be based on CHRISTIAN dogmas, and that anyone who doesn't agree with them are lazy and have their hands out!

    So. . .what is good about them?
     
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    Amen!!
     

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