New Development In Bradley Manning Case

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  1. Agent_286

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    New Development In Bradley Manning Case

    By David Dishneau | 11/29/12 02:02 PM ET EST
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    FORT MEADE, Md. - “An Army private charged in the biggest security breach in U.S. history took the stand Thursday at a military hearing about what he contends was needlessly harsh treatment at a Marine Corps brig.

    Pfc. Bradley Manning testified on the third day of a pretrial hearing at Fort Meade, outside Baltimore.

    Wearing his dress uniform, he appeared nervous, stuttering over his words as he tried to answer questions from a defense attorney about his arrest in Baghdad in May 2010. He was testifying only about his arrest and confinement.

    Seated in the witness booth, he swiveled back and forth and gestured with his hands as he described the layout of his confinement quarters overseas.

    Manning is trying to avoid trial in the WikiLeaks case. He argues he was punished enough when he was locked up alone in a small cell for nearly nine months at a brig in Quantico, Va., and had to sleep naked for several nights.

    The military contends the treatment was proper, given Manning's classification then as a maximum-security detainee who posed a risk of injury to himself or others.

    Earlier Thursday, a military judge accepted the terms under which Manning would plead guilty to eight charges for sending classified documents to the secret-spilling WikiLeaks website.

    Col. Denise Lind's ruling doesn't mean the pleas have been formally accepted. That could happen in December. But Lind approved the language of the offenses to which Manning would admit.

    She said those offenses carry a total maximum prison term of 16 years.
    Manning made the offer as a way of accepting responsibility for the leak. Government officials have not said whether they would continue prosecuting him for the other 14 counts he faces, including aiding the enemy. That offense carries a maximum penalty of life in prison.

    Under the proposal, Manning would admit to willfully sending the following material: a battlefield video file, some classified memos, more than 20 Iraq war logs, more than 20 Afghanistan war logs and other classified materials. He would also plead guilty to wrongfully storing classified information.

    Meanwhile, Manning's lawyers are arguing that the charges against the soldier should be dismissed because of how he was treated while confined at Quantico.

    Other prospective witnesses include a military psychiatrist who examined Manning at Quantico, and the former commander of the confinement facility at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. Manning was later moved there, re-evaluated and given a medium-security classification.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/29/wikileaks-hearing_n_2212331.html
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    This case was always about the horrible treatment rendered to Pfc. Manning for taking a sheaf of purported classified documents and sending them to a WikiLeaks website. The inhumane treatment he received included being locked up alone in a small cell for nine months and forced to sleep naked.

    A lawyer finally got him moved to Leavenworth Kansas, re-evaluated, and given a medium-security classification.

    He was arrested in May of 2010 and is just now going in to pretrial hearings in Ft. Meade, Maryland. When you think of the horrible, grotesque things done by U.S. soldiers during the wars with little or no jail sentences, and the treatment that Pfc. Manning has received at the hands of the Army Judiciary, you just have to ask yourself: “Did Pfc. Manning’s personal history and mental health have anything to do with his ill treatment by the military personnel?”
     
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    Treatment sounds fine to me. Don't want to be treated like that? Don't break the law!
     
  3. Iolo

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    Let our little brother come home. What conceivable benefit do the lynchers get from torturing him?
     
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    I bet Private Manning is getting raped on a daily basis.
     
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    Stop projecting, al.
     
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    Most rapes happen in prison. That's what's happening to manning now and will continue to happen to him over and over again. I wonder what the effect will be on his psyche?
     
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    Thank god!!

    It looks like we finally won one folks.

    This to me is clear evidence that Manning isn't going to testify against Assange, as the US government attempt to change the right to a free press using national security as a Trojan horse is over!

    Perhaps the witch hunt for Assange will finally be over as well!
     
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    You do realize that at a military prison they wake up and do PT, and then engage in a 16 hour day of labor. Its not exactly the prison's you see on TV.
     
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    Guards can't be everywhere. Weak guys are probably sometimes left in the unsupervised presence of predatory guys most days. The weak guys get raped.
     
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    No pitty what so ever for him. I hope they prosecute him at the full extent of the law. Sharing sensitive and secret military information with anyone that does not have a need to know it greatly damages our furture security. How do we keep China from building a replica of our F-22?? Or, the terrorists from learning our tactics on the ground??
     
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    Or from our government hiding the murder of children from us, right?


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    Can someone post the video that clearly shows the journalists being gunned down, and then the van full of kids being hit by death from above!

    Can't post it from this computer.
     
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    It's fairly obvious they were not intentionally trying to gun down children. They just got caught up in an ongoing struggle to wrestle control from the insurgents, who by the way, dont distiguish themselves from civilians. Lets also not forget, the individual driving the van deliberately drove into a hostile area knowing that there were kids in the vehicle.

    As soon as the soldiers realized there were kids in the vehicle, they rushed them out for medical care. That does not sound like people who are intended on killing children.

    Your emotional rhetoric only effects the ignorant without any sense of rationality.
     
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    .....

    It will be over when President Obama says it is over.... how embarrassing for the administration to have it's 'classifieds' so easily pilfered and the alleged 'freedom of the press' so graphically destroyed leaving one recipient in jail, the other in some foreign embassy sick and without his freedom to work. That's Democracy in action, eh?
     
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    You must be one of those American Christians they tell me about. Millions of people got the information he got, as you know. Why not stick to witches? Spite is not a very admirable thing.
     
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    I'm still wondering why we haven't managed to hang Maj. Hasan yet.
     
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    I thought this was going to be about whether they were going to use a good rope or form a firing squad, not about his traitorous leftist loser ass sniveling about the treatment he so richly deserves.
     
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    Actually, Im agnostic, if not atheist.
     
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    Manning's motive was to try and expose an injustice being done in the name of Americans. This seems obvious. The way he went about it was unprecedented. I hope he is exonerated before this is over and gets to live a normal life again.
     
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    No, Mannings objective was a selfish one. To get back at a military that discriminates against Gay's. Also, because he was mostly a social outcast, he felt an inner hatred toword the military and his coworkers. He knew he would not last long in the military with his outbursts of rage in the workplace, of all places. Don't pretend his act was a selfless act to "right the wrong". It was completely selfish, and I doubt he gives a rats ass about anyone but himself. To pretend otherwise, is to discredit yourself in my eyes and should in anyone else's eyes that looks at situations in a rational light.
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - Assange gets the glory while Manning sits inna pokey...
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    Pvt. Bradley Manning’s WikiLeaks trial also a test for government
    June 1, 2013, WASHINGTON — Army Pfc. Bradley Manning already has confessed to mishandling classified information for sending hundreds of thousands of U.S. intelligence documents to the WikiLeaks website, including reports of airstrikes that killed civilians, assessments of terror captives, and diplomatic cables. On those charges alone, he could spend 20 years in prison.
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - he was in cahoots with Osama bin-Laden...
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    Prosecutor: Manning dumped info into enemy hands
    3 June`13 — Pfc. Bradley Manning went on trial Monday for leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks, including sensitive information prosecutors said fell into enemy hands.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny got her heart set on a Sunday afternoon hangin' - right after church...
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    Bradley Manning acquitted of aiding the enemy but guilty of espionage violations
    Tue July 30, 2013 > WikiLeaks says the conviction of Manning sets "a dangerous precedent"; A military judge finds Manning not guilty of aiding the enemy and another major charge; He was found guilty of most of the remaining charges against him; He was accused of releasing 750,000 pages of classified documents and videos
    See also:

    Manning guilty on many charges, not most serious
    July 30, 2013 — U.S. Army Pfc. Bradley Manning was acquitted of aiding the enemy — the most serious charge he faced — but was convicted of espionage, theft and other charges Tuesday, more than three years after he spilled secrets to WikiLeaks.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny says, "Dat's right - he shouldn't a-tooted his own whistle...
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    Manning guilty of violating Espionage Act, not guilty of aiding the enemy
    July 30, 2013 —A military judge has ruled that Army Pfc. Bradley E. Manning violated the Espionage Act when he gave a trove of classified material to the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks. But Army Col. Denise Lind found Manning not guilty of aiding the enemy, a charge that carries a possible life sentence.
     
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    Waltky please do not dredge up ancient threads and post your poor man's hee-haw commentary.

    Post your poor man's hee-haw commentary on CURRENT threads in CURRENT events which actually are current... as there are several to choose from.

    Thank you.
     
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    Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) - so secure and sensitive that three million or so knew it? Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) squared!
     

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