New Photo Surfaces Of George Zimmerman From Night Of Trayvon Shooting

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by RosePop, Dec 3, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. CanadianEye

    CanadianEye Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2010
    Messages:
    4,086
    Likes Received:
    282
    Trophy Points:
    83
    I don't even try to follow their rationale anymore Dixon. Somehow....it all makes sense in their heads I guess.
     
  2. ThirdTerm

    ThirdTerm Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2012
    Messages:
    4,318
    Likes Received:
    456
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Both Zimmerman and Martin are somewhat violent personalities and Martin obviously attacked Zimmerman first after he was followed by a suspicious man and a neighbourhood watch captain is only supposed to report suspicious activities to the police and Zimmerman was discouraged from pursuing the suspect by a police dispatcher he was in contact with on the fateful night. Zimmerman was not fit enough to fend off Martin's attack when Martin was on top of him and he ended up using deadly force on the spur of the moment after he was overpowered by Martin. Zimmerman could end up being acquitted after a lengthy show trial just like other high profile cases because he had a right to defend himself regardless of the circumstances but he needs to be grilled in court and it was wrong that he was not arrested initially after killing a man.
     
  3. Not The Guardian

    Not The Guardian Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2011
    Messages:
    2,686
    Likes Received:
    36
    Trophy Points:
    48
    OMG!

    A kid is dead and poor George has a bloody nose! Boo Hoo!
     
  4. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    20,283
    Likes Received:
    407
    Trophy Points:
    83
    i agree that he shouldnt have went to look for treyvon, im not on his side for doing that. in fact im on neither side. im just waiting for all facts before i make my judgement on the matter. i have given many scenarios, both in favor of George and treyvon as to what might have went down because in my mind i can see different scenarios but i cant at this time come to a conclusion of which one i think is more possible.

    like i said before, in my opinion it depends on who simply touched who first. i wish there was a video that could show that one point, because if Zimmerman grabbed or toched Treyvon in any way first i would swiftly jump on the wagon to charge Z with murder because he physically initiated the scuffle that got his face beaten and the back of his head jacked up. But if Treyvon touched or attacked Z first i would have to say Zimmerman was in the right.
     
  5. Courtney203

    Courtney203 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I certainly don't feel sorry that the attacker was shot to death either.
     
  6. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Except that to anyone with any forensic training, it does not mean that blood would have washed away. It would spread out and get under Martin's fingernails.

    It would not have coagulated on Z's face.

    FAIL.
     
  7. Courtney203

    Courtney203 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Following someone is no excuse for them to physically assault them. Assault is against the law, self defense is a right.
     
  8. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    He wasn't.
     
  9. iJoeTime

    iJoeTime Banned

    Joined:
    May 16, 2011
    Messages:
    3,277
    Likes Received:
    71
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You and a bunch of other (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) haters on here. Welcome to the club. You fit in well.
     
  10. Courtney203

    Courtney203 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Are you just making (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along?
     
  11. Defengar

    Defengar New Member

    Joined:
    May 7, 2011
    Messages:
    6,891
    Likes Received:
    100
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Wow. People are still going on about this?
     
  12. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    This is all going to boil down to is did George put himself in a situation in which he was forced to shoot. If the answer is yes then he is going to jail. I think he is going to go to jail.

    Self-defense doesn’t cover a situation in which you force it. For example, if I go to Harlem, New York and scream I hate black people and someone comes over to me and beats the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of me, I can’t legally use self deference. The reason is that I caused the situation in which I was forced to shot. That isn’t self deference that is murder 2 with depraved indifference. Which is what George has found charged with and most likely will convicted over.
     
  13. Courtney203

    Courtney203 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    0
    He is not an undercover cop. He has no legal obligation to identify himself.
     
  14. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Another Epic Fail from Mr CSI! LOL!
     
  15. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    State the law that says that or show yourself a liar! HAHAHA!
     
  16. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    25,426
    Likes Received:
    8,068
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    No wonder he shot the bastard!!!
     
  17. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Were it true, he should have gone home with no ankle bracelet. It is, however, not the least bit likely that the loser told the truth.
     
  18. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He was.
     
  19. Courtney203

    Courtney203 New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 2, 2009
    Messages:
    5,359
    Likes Received:
    30
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes you can. The person who assaulted you would go to jail. However, you may go to jail for disturbance of the peace as well.
    He will be let go on self defense. Unless some evidence comes up in the case that has not already been put out there that proves otherwise, I think he will not be charged with anything.
     
  20. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The State said under oath they have nothing to refute George's account....and you do? Hilarious!
     
  21. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    20,283
    Likes Received:
    407
    Trophy Points:
    83

    i know, its quite entertaining to watch to be honest. i mean to sit here and read the fairy tales they make up and the way they try to distort reality is unbelievable. i have never seen people lie to themselves and others so much and try to pass it as truth at this level before. its utterly pathetic.
     
  22. GeddonM3

    GeddonM3 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    20,283
    Likes Received:
    407
    Trophy Points:
    83


    oh now you are a forensic expert???
     
  23. EMTdaniel86

    EMTdaniel86 Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2011
    Messages:
    9,380
    Likes Received:
    4,403
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Self-Deference doesn’t cover any situation in which you put self in and are forced to use self deference. As to the extent of the right: First, when threatened violence exists, it is the duty of the person threatened to use all prudent and precautionary measures to prevent the attack. A prudent measure to prevent the attack is the key word you need to look at. He followed TM. There go he provoked the situation. There go he self deference is going right out the window. There are a few things that need to be met for self defence. Below is one of them.

    As to the extent of the right: First, when threatened violence exists, it is the duty of the person threatened to use all prudent and precautionary measures to prevent the attack; for example, if by closing a door which was usually left open, one could prevent an attack, it would be prudent, and perhaps the law might require, that it should be closed in order to preserve the peace, and the aggressor might in such case be held to bail for his good behavior
     
  24. doombug

    doombug Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    56,871
    Likes Received:
    22,778
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Again, wrong! Self defense is afforded to someone who is even considered the aggressor. Legally, Trayvon the violent punk was the aggressor.
     
  25. superbadbrutha

    superbadbrutha Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2006
    Messages:
    52,269
    Likes Received:
    6,446
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Yea you see 158lb 17 yr olds beat the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of 28 yr old, 200+lb grown men everyday.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page