Each & Every One Of You Politicizing The Deaths Of Those Children Are Sick Animals

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  1. Really People?

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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    As H.L. Mencken said in 1918 =
    ...in the United States, alone among the great nations of history, there is a right way to think and a wrong way to think in everything...in the most trivial matters of everyday life.
     
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    This place is starting to make me physically ill. I wish that those were the only threads, or even the worst threads, to do it.

    I honestly can't figure out how these people can look themselves in the mirror. I certainly wouldn't be able to.
     
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    RPA1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'd rather discuss the horrendous event. What makes you think that we who choose to discuss and debate are less compassionate than you? If we want to really honor the deaths of these poor innocents, we ought to be delving into the reasons why these things are happening in our society. I started the gun grabber thread because I thought it was shameful the way they are using these kids as fodder to promote their agenda.
     
  5. Really People?

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    Politicizing the deaths of those children is (*)(*)(*)(*)ing disgusting...

    No amount of rationalization will change that...
     
  6. FactChecker

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    They politicized the deaths of 20 children, and you were so disgusted that you were compelled to do the same?

    Good call, Einstein.
     
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    No (*)(*)(*)(*)...
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Not to sound cold hearted or anything here but I mean what exactly do you expect?
    Do you want a forum full of 30 threads labeled "Lets mourn the loss of the children" with each reply being "yes" "I agree" "pray for them" etc

    I mean there isn't much to discuss on the event in regards to a political forum. Sadly it happened, not really much to "debate" on the fact that it happened...
     
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    I agree with regard to using this horrendous tragedy to push for more gun control. One of the threads you posted was mine. The one about gun-grabbers where I pointed out that they are the ones trying to use these poor kids to push their gun-grabbing agenda. Seems one cannot discuss this incident without being bombarded by the anti-gun crowd.

    I mentioned in several posts about looking into our society, what we are teaching our children, certain over-prescribed medications (anti-depressants), etc. Seems few really want to look past their own gun-control agenda. Sorry you were offended, it wasn't meant that way.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Well this is a political debate forum. People are here to debate issues with each other.

    Are you saying that nothing should be discussed as to "why" or "how" this unfortunate incident happened? Or do you think people should have just waited a little longer before discussing these topics?
     
  11. Really People?

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    I'm saying that some of the people on this forum have used the dead bodies of these kids as a soapbox to preach their bull(*)(*)(*)(*)...

    Nobody gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about an opinion on gun control, God in schools, whatever...

    No one except for partisan (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bags who need to score political points...

    As for the why and how...

    Some (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) killed his mom, stole her guns, and murdered 26 people, 20 of them 6-7 years old...

    THAT is all that matters...
     
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    Yep, I think these guys are taking their "disgust" a little too far. I don't like people using tragedy as a political tool, but at the same time gun control is a terribly relevant issue to what has happened. We certainly must discuss the problem - for it is a problem - and possibilities for remedying it.
     
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    Wait, the murdered children are important? That doesn't sound right.

    Isn't the important part that I've got the perfect emotionally charged situation to push whatever (*)(*)(*)(*)ing agenda I was pushing beforehand? I mean, think of how awful they'll feel when I tell them that they're responsible for 20 children being slaughtered in their school. It's like (*)(*)(*)(*)ing Christmas.
     
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    I didn't link to any thread started by RPA1...

    The gun grabber thread was started by Blackrook...

    What's the deal?
     
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    There's nothing political about it...

    Gun control laws or not, he killed his mom, then murdered 26 people...

    20 of them children...'

    Spare me the BS rationalization...
     
  16. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    So what's the greatest crime?

    1. Killing his mother
    2. Killing the 20 kids
    3. Killing 6 adults
    4. Committing suicide
    5. Stealing the guns
    6. Having guns in a school
    7. Breaking and entering a school
     
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    I understand your sentiment. Many servicemen's (and servicewomen's) deaths have bee politicized for over a decade now. Not one iota of condolences just an excuse to take a political side and bash the other side. It is what it is my friend. Unless a tragic event effects you personally, there's an emotional detachment to it. It's a coping mechanism...one's empathy reserves are finite and conversations involving tragedies are often done from a detached perspective. As such, the tragedy itself is not fully processed on the same level as those actually enduring it.

    It is what it is.
     
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    I agree. I wish we could discuss gun issues at other times. But the only time it seems to come up is after one of these increasingly frequent tragedies. And then we ALWAYS hear, "Don't politicize this!" So tell me -- when SHOULD we talk about it?

    The best time to talk about it would have been long before a heavily armed man opened fire on little children. But since that never happened, this is the next-best time, while the horror of gun violence is so clear.
     
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    what's really disgusting is NOT trying to think and discuss ways to prevent tragedies like this from happening again...
     
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    I am not for gun control. You are confused.
     
  21. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    A lot of posters on this forum thought that Zimmerman did a great thing when he shot Trayvon Martin dead after stalking him like an animal. They approve of such killings. So why are they getting cold feet over the school shooting? In both instances parents lost their children because someone thought that it was a good idea to murder them.
     
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    not exactly..... Zimmerman and this issue are completely separate and incomparable on so many levels. you werent there, and neither was I. Zimmerman claims that treyvon was beating him to near death, gave him death threats, and reached for his gun.... based off the evidence i have seen so far I believe his claims make a lot of sense.

    having said that. the death of treyvon wasnt a great thing. it was a tragedy.... however, zimmerman did what he had to do to stay alive(his claims with some evidence)... thats not a good thing or a bad thing, it just is....

    when the true and full story is revealed, then I think we have a right to say zimmerman was guilty. as of now he is innocent until proven guilty thats how things work in america
     
  23. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    Those kids were trying to take the shooter's guns so he shot them. I'm sure that Zimmerman's defenders understand that.
     
  24. RightToLife

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    theyres a difference though... 100% different. this guy went in killing, zimmerman did not. zimmerman was attacked first, and only went for his gun while treyvon was going for it. treyvon attacked zimmerman first for no reason. just like this guy attacked these kid first for no reason.
     
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    CT has a low rate of gun ownership.. Maybe 4%.. Yet this mother with a mentally ill son had a veritable arsenal... that was used to kill 20 children and a half dozen teachers.

    Was she a responsible gun owner?
     

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