Egypt's Referendum and Morsi

1st day of 2 days voting in the referendum is over.

Next voting day is next Saturday, then we will have the full results.

The first wave was in the governorates that Morsi did not do well in in the presidential elections. Like Cairo and Alex where he lost to Hamdeen Sabahi who is in Team El Baradei. Yesterday he more than tripled his voters in Alex which was a surprise and showed that the people chose him over Sabahi if you want to look at the results as Morsi's endorsment rather than constitution.

Most governorates voted closely to how they voted in the 1st wave of the presidential election with the exception of Sharkeya where he doubled his vote yesterday and the surprising South Sinai where he triples his vote!!!!

South Sinai is the famous resorts on Red Sea where beach tourism is big business and real estate.

The voters there clearly sent a message that they want stability and voted YES.

Morsi and the draft won by 56.5 % with not all the votes counted yet and still the votes to come from the ex pats.

The next round, next week is in the governorates that he done well in in the presidential elections so I expect the endorsement of the draft and the President to rise a lot. The 56.5% to rise in favour of the constitution.

Next Sunday we will know for sure whether we sink or swim and whether Egyptians vote for economy and stability or just vote because they hate the MB.

I predict that most Egyptians will choose stability and economy, and that's only possibly by crushing the remaining filool and cleansing all of the sectors of government including judiciary and MOI.

We shall see

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsCon...titution-referendum-unofficial-results--.aspx

 

Looks like we can add Egypt to the list of repressive Islamic dictatorships.

 

I doubt that.. but there are people who mistakenly think the MB is ultraconservative.

 

And they wouldn't be wrong. After all, some guy just got three years in prison for insulting religion. Free speech has taken a holiday in Egypt.

 

He was convicted of inciting violence with the vulgar video. Big difference.

 

No he wasn't. Prosecutors didn't find any links on his computer to the "Innocence of Muslims." They did find some blogged comments critical of religion and charged him with blashphemy resulting in a three year prison sentence.

Free speech is the cornerstone of a democracy which leads me to believe that the Muslim Brotherhood and their shill Morsi have no intention of installing a democracy.

 

It will be their kind of democracy........ Egyptian democracy.

 

de·moc·ra·cy (d-mkr-s)
n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies
1. Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2. A political or social unit that has such a government.
3. The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
4. Majority rule.
5. The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.

Egypt will be as much of a "democracy" as the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, the Democratic People's Republic of N. Korea or the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

 

thoughtcrime is the criminal act of holding unspoken beliefs or doubts that oppose or question the ruling party. The government controls not only the speech and actions, but also the thoughts of its subjects. Unacceptable thought is known as crimethink, the ideologically purified dialect of the party. Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime is death. There is also a "ministry of ..." which is actually the place of torture for people who commit thoughtcrime or any type of crime for that matter.

 

Mubarak loyalists caught on camera. These are some of the plain clothed militias who are what we call filool, the orphans of the ex regime


the front line in the opposition and counter revolution ranks


This is why the police, MOI, judiciary, EVERY sector needs to be cleansed!

 

Really, he was accused of inciting violence with that stupid Innocence of the Muslims video and that allegation was found to be false. Do get your facts straight.

 

forgot to add

they are on their way to a protest by Hazemoun in Dokki


Translated means they are heading to the protest to fight Hazemoun who are protesting about cleansing the MOI

Expect much blood and death tonight if Hazemoun do not retreat

Mubaraks militias will not be easy to cleanse and stop

 

I for one am siding with those so called Felool militias , guess that makes me a felool to .

 

Is this a dagger which I see before me,
The handle toward my hand? Come, let me clutch thee;
I have thee not, and yet I see thee still.
Art thou not, fatal vision, sensible
To feeling as to sight? or art thou but
A dagger of the mind, a false creation,
Proceeding from the heat-oppressed brain?
I see thee yet, in form as palpable
As this which now I draw.

 

you are with them because they are going to fight Hazemoun or with them in general when they are in Tahrir etc?

 

News just said that a church service is going to be said for those shot kids at the school.

Now I am wondering since there is so much support for free speech from Americans.

What do you think would happen if a dozen radical Muslims had a demo outside that church in Newtown and with loudspeakers started to chant that all the people inside were infidels or athiests or whatever and their kids who died were all going to hell.

That would be free speech would it not?

Am I right in thinking that the police would not arrest them and they would not go to court and not get jail time like the Egyptian boy did ?

They would be free to say whatever they wanted outside or inside the church today?

Yes it is an extreme scenario. Shouldn't make any difference though if Americans have free speech right?

The 80% of gun owning residents of Newtown would have no problem at all with that would they.

Free speech thing for all?...............

 

Good luck to Morsi. Any Constitution may be amended at a later date according to the democratic nature of a country's parliament. Nothing is set in stone ( the ' Commandments ' in particular ) The US of AIPAC will be looking at its own Constitution with a view to amendments within Drone Man's final term in office. The UK doesn't even have one. Egypt is fast assuming its rightful place at the forefront of tomorrow's Middle East Union of Nations.

 

I agree

That's what amendments are for.

No constitution will make every citizen happy and we can't waste another year choosing another 100 who again will not represent every Egyptian.

The current 100 had all the top 1-18 legal and constitutional minds on it so they won't be able to be part of another one so any new CA will have the next 18-36 in the list of legal experts?

El Baradei is calling foul on violations yesterday.

I wouldn't mind so much if he himself wasn't Facebooking and Tweeting Egyptians to vote NO during the polls!!

Hypocrite!

I don't think he can talk about violations!

 

Egypt's Top Priorities

1. A YES vote in referendum so we can move forward and elect a new Parliament and Shura that is more representative and balanced.

that brings number 2

2. Some stability

3. Serious crackdown on the ex regime-(demand of the revolutionaries)

4. Cleansing of all sectors, especially MOI and Judiciary (two of the main demands of the revolutionaries)

5. Addressing education and helping Al Azhar combat ignorance being spread by the Wahabi Salafist cavemen like Borhami and Hazemoun. Wahabism has no place in Egypts culture.

 

I'm with anyone against shiekh Hazem and his retarded sheep .

 

me too but I can't support these filool militias

weren't they why Egyptians came out 25th January police day......

 

I'm going to just assume what you say to be true. If this is the case Morsi will have passed a crucial obstacle to cementing his rule.

 

The muslims would not be arrested and the police would insure that they were seperated from the public. That sort of protest goes on all the time in the US and detestable as it may be we honor the right to free speech.

If muslims did engage in the activity which you have described it would only confirm that they are thoughtless imbeciles.

 

It's not Morsi's ' rule '. He isn't a dictator like the Western-backed Mubarak. Morsi was elected due to a fair and internationally-observed democratic process. Now, the Palestinian example highlights the West's FEAR of democracy which doesn't choose its pre-appointed candidate. That fear is clearly evident in Western commentary on Egypt's emergence from decades of Western-backed tyranny.

 

Morsi not only is preventing the judiciary from overruling his decisions, but he also has "insulated the Muslim-Brotherhood-dominated (constitutional panel) from judicial oversight. He's decreed that none of his decisions can be overturned by the judiciary.

Morsi is the very definition of what a dictator is.