How a Cover-Up Works

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  1. pimptight

    pimptight Banned

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    What claims?

    You haven't said anything!!

    I ask for 3rd party verification of evidence, and a chain of custody, and you respond with....."well if it was admitted into court, then it meets these standards".

    Does Eye witness testimony have 3rd party verification, and a chain of custody?

    It is admitted to court, which proves through logic, and not ASSumption, that you are talking out your a$$!

    You have provided nothing!!!
     
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    I asked for 3rd party verification, and a chain of custody.

    In what world does a preamble count as this?
     
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    Wrong yet again. Try to follow along. Pointing to other crimes as proof of another crime is both ignorant and wrong. According to your seriously (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up emotional logic, there is no way in the world I can prove anything as you can always point to other people or events that show something can be wrong. You're doing nothing but playing games.

    No, that is your ignorant opinion. I have not made the claim that authority doesn't have to meet this standard. I've shown you the standards they have to meet and you ignore it. How childish is that? You're the one playing games! I think everyone can see that for themselves.

    Seriously? Wow. You just shredded your own credibility when you claim to know about accounting practices. In any business where you need to have accounting you have the business and the people the business does business with whether as a customer or as a supplier. To perform a valid audit, you have to have a third party that has no connections to either the business or the people/businesses that business deals with. The GAO is that entity. The auditors they use cannot be associated with either the government agency they are auditing or any of the vendors they use. That is why I supplied you with the GAO standards. Apparently you don't even understand what a third party means, thus your utter befuddlement in understanding how the GAO operates.

    :lol: The Pentagon is not the "accused". Since when is an audit a criminal trial? Get real. But, for once, you actually got another thing right! The Pentagon IS the first party! The other time you got something right is when you claimed you know nothing. That is why you have to learn about accounting audits now.

    Nope. The GAO isn't the police OR the second party. The second party is whomever the Pentagon does business with. Now, if the accountants from Martin Marietta or Lockheed were to come in and audit the Pentagon's books, you would be right in claiming foul as they would have a vested interest in making sure the audit looks as good as possible.


    The auditors the GAO assigns to oversee the Pentagon audit. As I proved, the GAO requires disinterested parties to perform whatever audit the GAO assigns them to.

    In that case, the Pentagon would perform the audit on themselves without the GAO even being involved even according to your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up definitions. You can't even win when you follow your own logic!

    Better luck next time!
     
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    Look. Get a better computer and follow the links. The FACT that these submitted pieces of evidence were accepted by the court and both the defense and prosecution proves they meet the minimum requirements for evidendce. This is very simple logic. Let me give you an example that might make it through that cloudy fog of yours. If security clearance requires that you go through a background check and that they interview your neighbors, one can safely assume that if you have security clearance, then you've gone through a background check and that your neighbors have been interviewed. You ignorantly DEMANDING to see evidence the background check was done and that the neighbors were interviewed is nothing but mental masturbation unless you can prove that the people giving the security clearance failed to do their job. Same thing here. A court of law has REQUIREMENTS that evidence has to meet before it can be submitted. This is a known fact. You deny it by pretending that the evidence does not have a chain of custody. I ask you to provide evidence that the courts bypassed the requirements. You ran like a whipped curr and pretend like nothing has been presented to you.

    Think you're fooling anyone with your mental masturbation? Me neither. But keep it up. It is funny watching your claims disintegrate before everyone's eyes.
     
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    :lol: I see you can't tell the difference between physical evidence and testimony. Come back when you learn how a trial works.

    Come back when you can tell the difference between physical evidence and testimony.

    I've proven plenty, including the fact you're claims are complete and total bull(*)(*)(*)(*) and you've got nothing. But hey. Keep on pretending physical evidence in a court of law doesn't have to meet any requirements. It is fun watching you make a complete fool of yourself.
     
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    http://wtcdemolition.com/blog/node/2950
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=7GDa-L4hHHo
     
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    I'm not pointing to other crimes, this what you can't get through your head!

    Are you suggesting that their was a conspiracy to create the GFC, or European banking crisis?

    Because if you are not, then you are referring to wide spread accounting fraud.

    You then say, trust my government office of the GAO, to investigate the government office of the Pentagon.

    You're claims that the third party is the customer is absurd in relevance to an audit. How does Raytheon audit a Trillion dollars in defense spending?

    WTF are you talking about?


    GAO, and Pentagon accounting is what you have offered.

    But keep clinging to the insane claim that you have provided anything of substance.


    WTF are you talking about?

    How do individual customers audit the Pentagon?

    Where in the contract bidding process that occurs in defense spending does Raytheon audit the Pentagon?


    The Pentagon is the accused in the context of whether or not their is money missing correct?

    Try to keep up son!


    Again in the context of this discussion the GAO is the primary regulatory enforcement mechanism. Police was a metaphor.

    Of course anyone reading this can see, how I obviously meant that the GAO is literaly the police, with hand cuffs and police cars............Here is your sign!



    Again, we have named two parties so far, Raytheon is not the 3rd party.


    Your claim to fame is that you provided 3 parties here, when you so obviously have not.

    Indeed.
     
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    Where did you ever claim the distinction?

    You posted a preamble of evidence that does not distinguish between the two, and again declare victory through the "i win debate strategy".
     
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    Really? Gee. I'm talking about the Pentagon and you're talking about other accounting fraud issues and pretending they are relevant to the Pentagon audit.

    No. I am stating quite clearly that the GFC and European banking crisis are not relevant to the Pentagon audit. This is what you can't grasp even though it is a very simple concept. I have stated nothing about the GFV or European banking crisises other than to state they are irrelevant. You have failed miserably at presenting any connection other than to prove bad audits can happen which is meaningless.

    Two cases are widespread? How many audits get performed every year worldwide? Hundreds of thousands? Yet you want to try and pretend it is so widespread that the Pentagon audit just HAS to be accounting fraud! :roll: Grow up.

    Yes, we realize your paranoia and unwillingness to look at any evidence that can disprove your paranoid delusions without someone handing you a signed note from God stating the evidence is real prevents you from trusting anything involving the government. Not everyone has these mental disabilities. Get over it.

    I never claimed the third party is the customer. You blatantly lying about what I state isn't helping your case at all. The disinterested third party is the auditors assigned by the GAO. Whether those are government employees or an external auditing firm is irrelevant as long as they have no personal interest in the audit. Or does your OPINION of the auditors now come in to play?

    Playing stupid again? Figures. When are you going to stop playing games?

    And since the GAO, the GENERAL ACCOUNTING OFFICE, is the auditing arm of the government, their auditing standards are completely and totally relevant despite your claims to the contrary. Do you offer evidence that your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claim that the GAO standards are not relevant? No. All we have is your claim it lacks substance, but we all know what your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) claims are worth.

    Still playing games I see. The GAO oversees the audit, not the customers. Keep proving your ignorance. It doesn't hurt my credibility at all that you can't follow simple examples.\

    I've already proven "money missing" was a lie. Try to keep up son! Transactions were not properly accounted for due to the numerous accounting systems and processes employed by the Pentagon over decades. The only retards claiming money was missing is the truthers who wish to ignore what was written in order to pretend they have some kind of reason.

    I don't need one of the numerous signs you've earned during this discussion. Wear them with honor! I explained exactly what the GAO is and your only comeback is that they weren't really the police? :lol: No (*)(*)(*)(*) sherlock! Ever try addressing what is written instead of your imagination?

    Try to follow along. This is very simple and any normal person would have got it the first time. The third party is always the AUDITOR. You pretending the GAO HAS to be the second party and thus not the auditor so you can pretend the second party I clearly deliniated is really the auditor is obviously a pathetic game you're trying to play. No problem. Only the person playing the game is the one who looks like the fool.

    :lol: Keep dreaming. The fact you can't even get the order right shows you're clueless.
     
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    http://wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up

    http://wanttoknow.info/9-11cover-up10pg

    Above is a link to a compilation of news articles leading up to and after 9/11.

    Some of you will believe nothing that is not confirmed in the mainstream media. Others like myself take any "news" with a grain of salt whether it's "mainstream" or not.

    But regardless of how much you trust the mainstream media or to the extent with which you believe it is controlled by Zionist spinmeisters, one central theme emerges from examining all these articles and then taking them altogether. That is, that it is clear that there was, and still is, much to be skeptical about the official story of 9/11.

    Some officials have stated outright that the public has not been given the whole truth. Others maintain that we have been deceived.

    There is no doubt that Bush and Rice lied when they said that no one considered the possibility of hijacked airliners being used to destroy buildings.

    It is also evident that many people in the CIA, the FBI, and the NSA had learned of planned suicide attacks prior to 9/11. Intelligence agencies from other countries also gave advance warnings of these attacks. Of these things there can be no serious doubt, only disingenuous denials.

    That being the case, there is no way that the Commander in Chief could not have been privy to this information, unless one is to believe that he and his advisers were left "out of the loop", in which case one can only surmise that the Office of the Presidency has become nothing more than the station for a figurehead of a "shadow government".

    None of these alternatives look good for the future of the Republic of this country as it was originally conceived. For they all imply a governance without the consent of the people.

    All one needs to do is establish the fact that the right people in the US government had been previously warned of imminent attacks in order to surmise that at some point, a decision was made to allow those attacks to precede. This idea is supported by the FACTS that the investigations were interfered with and objected to from the Presidency all the way down to where control of government ceases to have any effect.

    These facts are verifiable by the mainstream media itself whether it is Zionist controlled or not! Anyone who is aware of these facts as they were reported can not deny that a cover up of this foreknowledge must have occurred.

    The attempt made to conceal this foreknowledge has been interpreted by some as attributable to incompetence. Yet none of those who could have been charged with incompetency were removed or demoted. Some were even promoted!

    Therefore one is justified in suspecting that the real reason for the interference and stonewalling of the investigation, as well as the many instances where misinformation was being supplied as fact (lies, if you please), is because some person(s) decided to allow the attacks to take place in order to proceed with the plans which we see unfolding in the mid east. The countries which have been invaded or embroiled in war were all named by Richard Pearle as requiring regime changes prior to 9/11.

    It is also factual that many of the most prominent people involved with 9/11 at the highest echelons of the US government who could have, and must have, been involved in making those decisions were, and still are, ardent Zionists.

    One must tell a deliberate LIE in order to deny ANY of the above allegations. THINK about it!
    Then THINK about it some more!! Then THINK again and again until the implications have ample time to sink in against your unwillingness to implicate any particular group of people.
    TRUTH demands it. JUSTICE demands it. Anything else is less than either.

    By all of this, one can see that it is not even necessary to prove that controlled demolitions were used to bring down the buildings in order to ascertain that there are powerful individuals in positions of government (or directing the government proper) who are perfectly willing and able to sacrifice the lives of American citizens in order to obtain their objectives.

    A certain Zionist who has admitted on film to having written about the Machiavellian philosophy and to ascribing to it comes to mind. Anyone who has watched the films I have supplied in this thread may recall having heard him speak this himself in the same clip in which Richard Perle rattles off the list of mideastern countries to be overthrown.


    The Zionist influence in all these affairs is apparent to anyone who is familiar with the Zionists themselves, many of whom are called Neo-Cons. Those who are also familiar with the traditions of Talmudic Judaism in which Zionism is rooted will have no problem in imagining how probable it was that the "inside" intelligence information warning of the suicide attacks was relayed to those whom it would directly effect, namely the proprietors of the WTC buildings.

    Any person who is wise to the ways of this world can also easily understand how unlikely it is that these very wealthy and powerful people, could not be connected directly or indirectly to those people who are engaged in the most sophisticated forms of organized crime. What else do these people gravitate towards if it is not money and power? And who is it that they are afraid to approach in order to obtain it?


    Americans who are comfortable with rule by a Zionist plutocracy can reassure themselves that at no time in the future will they or their children ever find themselves in a conflict of interests with those of the favored or ruling class. They may also hope that they will never find themselves in the unfortunate predicament of those who were the victims of the WTC attacks. They may also be assured that they will not be spared either if by chance they ever find themselves in the path of the Plutocrats and mobsters.

    If on the other hand fate deals them an unlucky hand, then they can thank their own complacency and disregard for the misfortune of others for whatever the results might be.
     
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    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_supremacism
     
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    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Jewish_supremacism


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk




    http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/01/georgetown-law-professor-calls-for-scrapping-the-downright-evil-constitution/


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    “Scrap ‘archaic, idiosyncratic and downright evil’ Constitution”
    Professor Louis Michael Seidman
    Communist Khazar "Jew"

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/23/atheist-jews-judaism-without-god_n_978418.html

    Schrogin isn't alone.
     
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    Who cares?
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
    That's right about where we are now.

    viz The goals outlined in the Communist manifesto:



    There will be no "classless society" under the Jewish Plutocratic New World Order.

    The "Jews" will always have preeminence. THAT is their religion whether they believe in God or not.

    Those of you who think you will fare well under such a system so long as you pay the "Jews" their proper deference had better rethink your position. You may luck out that way, but all those who do not will curse your memory; and they will far outnumber those whom the Jews may find any usefulness left. You can figure out who those might be for yourself. Just open your eyes and learn to recognize what you are seeing.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of_the_People

    http://stj911.org/evidence/foreknowledge.html

    Justices Souter and O’Connor, Intelligence Agency Heads and Congressmen All Warn of Tyranny in America




    http://fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/050702_ciaadmits.html
     
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    It's been clear from the beginning that YOU DON'T.

    However, I DO!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3_CBH4sog

    [video=youtube;iX3_CBH4sog]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3_CBH4sog[/video]

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeW-CRYr2u0

    [video=youtube;qeW-CRYr2u0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeW-CRYr2u0[/video]

    http://www.mycommonsensepolitics.net/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=88:fighting-internal-enemies&id=3071:israeli-mossad-agents-posed-as-cia-spies-to-recruit-terrorists-to-fight-against-iran

    By Barak Ravid

     
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    Yet you haven't been able to get anything right, with your agenda in the way.
     
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    Is that right.


     
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    Is that right?


     
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3_CBH4sog



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeW-CRYr2u0



    http://www.mycommonsensepolitics.net/index.php/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&catid=88:fighting-internal-enemies&id=3071:israeli-mossad-agents-posed-as-cia-spies-to-recruit-terrorists-to-fight-against-iran

    By Barak Ravid

     
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    Yes, that is correct. Copy & paste all you wish, the facts still evade you. Put down the hate and perhaps you'll see more clearly.
     
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    Generally, when a thread is titled something like "How a Cover-Up Works", and ends in blaming the Jews, unless you're posting at VNN or Stormfront, it's obviously become a troll thread. Locking would be perfectly reasonable at this point.
     

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