Gun violence lands US lowest life expectancy among rich nations

Yes, and we could bandy statistics around all night and get nowhere. Cars, however, aren't designed to kill, and I'd guess it would be a bit easier to kill someone with an implement designed for that purpose, than to drive around looking for them, and then try to run them over. Silly analogy, perhaps, but this whole debate on guns verges on the surreal at times...

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(Must be that inconvenient 'liberal' science)

 

The OECD has nothing to do with Fox. And the US govt is a member of the OECD. Sorry that reality refutes your liberal propaganda.

Logic also refutes your liberal propaganda since there has never been a govt program that is/was more efficient than the private sector. And there never will be one.

 

Welcome to the thread + forum. I'm sure you'll soon discover that most posters here have set/ingrained unshakeable views/ opinions. Nevertheless , dont let any of that deter you from trying to inject a degree of your own rationality.


Good luck .

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unless...you're the woman in Atlanta who saved herself and her children with a gun. Just because someone else is successfully disarmed doesnt mean me or my wife will be, this is exactly why you should be able to make that choice for yourself. Fact. I know this is hard to swallow but the woman saved herself and her two children with a gun and there isnt any statistic you can give that woman that would make her think she made a mistake by having the weapon. Its almost as if people are upset she saved herself. None of the lefties even bring it up. Now why is that?

 

Haven't you heard of Big Stick Syndrome?

 

How do you explain the trend in violent crime since it is down?

 

You'd have to give me a bit more to go on, that just that..

 

Of course there're always isolated exceptions , but please remove your blinkers - stand back and try seeing a bigger picture.

Tiddly -tonk.

 

Did anyone point out that this opinion is based on the Russian Times, RT, they hate the USA at RT.

Really, a discussion based on what a Communist Propagandist "news" organization states.

what a joke.

 

So drugs, gangs and criminal activity cause shortened life. Who would have guessed.

 

Bigger picture, you mean like there are more guns legally owned now and far less crime too. THAT bigger picture. Or is the bigger picture just the isolated actions of crazy people?

 

My point was that guns can be used for defense in addition to killing people.

If guns were only used for killing people, a lot of nations wouldn't have militaries.

 

Guns might be designed to kill, but that's not all they're used for. They're used for defense as well, which is why militaries have them. That same use for defense can apply to the general populace.

Second, freedoms aren't determined by scientific likelihoods of benefits. If that was the case, then alcohol would have remained banned since Prohibition. Clearly, alcohol has more negative consequences than benefits to society.

You could even argue the same for guns, but it wouldn't justify taking away the right to have one.

 

Having 200% more violent deaths than the next nearest country is a small price to pay if your biggest driving force in life is fear of the government turning on you. I wonder why it is that Canada, Japan, Australia and Western Europe don't have this same level of dread and paranoia.

 

The report leaves out deaths caused by Saddam Hussien

The report does include the 9/11 deaths

The report leaves out all the deaths as a direct result of Marxism.

The report does not include the tens of thousands murdered in Syria.

The report leaves out too much to make its biased conclusion.

 

While I agree that the report's conclusions are flawed, I don't think Iraq or Syria would qualify as "rich nations." I can't think of any Marxist nations that are rich either.

 

And I am a puprle Indian. Just sayin

 

"Not to disrespect old-timers, however, the value of an 87 year old to society with regard to economic activity is???? Shouldn't we all die at 60 or so? Although the retirement rate in Europe might be 26, here in the USA it is 65 going on 67. That is OLD. No hearing, no sight, no motor function. I repeat, the value is?" Quote

An 87 year old has already proven his value to society and deserves a little peace and quiet!
Back when I was a young up-start, teenager thought that people should die or be put in camps at the age of thirty. Guess that age goes up as you grow older.

 

The picture is a world-wide fall in crime, and an American murder-rate four times ours and six times the German. Ain't yer proud?

 

You don't need to legalise drugs over there, do you? When did an American extremist last attempt to define 'fascist'?

 

In the US, gun sales have steadily increased while crime has decreased. Our concern is with the USA. What happens in the minor nations is their business. And the accuracy of reports from the known corrupt officials of the minor nations is always suspect.

 

You are mad as hatters, kid. Go live in a nuthouse with all the other loonies, and believe one another.

 

Your opinion is worthless to me. Do you dispute the fact that US gun sales are up and US crime is down? Or do you just enjoy vomiting out nonsense?

 

I love the way people take two things, and make a false conclusion from them.

On the day that had most clouds, there were less recorded heart attacks = clouds prevent heart attacks..

 

I love the way liberals insist on twisting language, or is it that their comprehension is faulty?

" Do you dispute the fact that US gun sales are up and US crime is down?" Is a statement of 2 facts. It does not draw any conclusion. Altho a conclusion is obvious to the non-brainwashed that cannot see the world around them