yeah its funny that he calls YOU the one that is 15.as you can see,he blatantly ignores facts that prove him wrong about Reagan and that he was at that time,the most corrupt president we have.excellent post.well said.you sure took him to school and handed his arse to him on a platter,simple as pie to do though.everydody does it to him in debates here.hee hee The only decent and respectable one, obviously - President Carter. The rest have mostly been crooks, surely? Dude JFk was a far greater president than Carter was. Yes every president since Theodore Roosevelt has been crooks except for Carter AND JFK.JFK with the exception of Washington,did more for the american people in his short 1,000 days in office than any other president ever. The world would not be messed up like it is today if Kennedy has lived and was able to serve a second term.Besides the thread starter,you and wisp the poster before you,have been the only posters that have said anything intelligent on this thread other than the guy that pointed out how corrupt FRD was.except for the part on leaving Kennedy out,it was a great post and so true so you get a thumbs up for that.
l. Jefferson, who saved the democracy from becoming a republic 2. Jackson, who had the right attitude about who is fit to have self-determination 3. Monroe, who believed in Manifest Destiny, a strong military, and basically everything that made America strong and prosperous, as if all subsequent leaders asked "What would Monroe do?" 4. Polk, who got us everything West of the Louisiana Purchase 5. Teddy Roosevelt, who was one of the few aristocrats ever who felt he had to prove his fitness to rule 6. Washington, who kept the country from dying before it was old enough to walk 7. Lincoln, who prevented the country from splitting into constantly warring countries like Europe had always been 8. FDR, who kept the country from collapsing under a dysfunctional economic system 9. Reagan, who kept the country from collapsing under a dysfunctional governmental system 10. Eisenhower, a strong steady hand of stability before others let it all fall apart
Excellent post here.Stands up and gives standing ovation.Yours is easly by far the best well thought out post on here of anybody that has posted easily.hands down,bar none. except how come you included Carter in the worst? I would say that Carter was out last half way decent president we had.The last great president we had was John F Kennedy.I would say Washington was the greatest president ever and Kenendy second.If Kennedy had lived and served a second term the world would not be screwed up anything like it is today.He was a man of peace and believed in establishing diologue and peaceful relations with other countries. For the first time in DECADES, americans had hope for the future again and looked forward to a promising future.that hope died on nov 22nd 1963.He cared about the american people and thats why our government killed him cause he was doing too many great things for them. Our hope for a free country again dies on nov 22nd 1963.He was trying to return us to the constitution of the united states where the PEOPLE had control over the government instead of all these corporations that do now.and where the government served the people instead of us serving them like we do now.His assassination altered the course of american history forever for the worse.
your the one with fantays.Here is the TRUTH about Reagan that you of course will ignore since your in denial about Him obviously with that avatar.hee hee. People can either accpet it that they have been brainwashed all these years about Regan or live in denial and fell good about themselves ding that.its their choice. http://consortiumnews.com/2011/09/20/the-dark-legacy-of-reaganomics/ http://consortiumnews.com/2011/09/20/the-dark-legacy-of-reaganomics/
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What? Jefferson was integral in ensuring we became a republic. Saving us from the mob rule of direct democracy was what he accomplished. Jackson's biggest problem was his lack of allowing Native Americans self-determination. See the Trail of Tears. Manifest Destiny was one of the worst things about our history. We pretty much raped the natives of this country of all their land. Teddy established himself as a relentless warmonger before becoming president. His time as president wasn't much better.
Reagan is the best of the 20th centuray and how the hell isint he on here. My favorites are Jefferson Reagan Harding Coolidge Lincoln Grant and wilson was a racist KKK member douchbag.
Both sides are wrong. The Left went off on a tangent in the 60s and diverted its projects to waste money on incompetent people and false ideals. Reagan corrected that, but when the Left got a chance to correct Reaganism it only expanded its wastefulness. Hegel's idea of thesis, antithesis, and synthesis is again proved false. It is all error and no trial; only publicized alternatives are tried and they all come from the same ignorant, selfish, and sheltered class. Until we realize that both Liberalism and Conservatism derive from the same malignant class supremacy, we will continue spiraling to oblivion. The middle, the only real Americans, is attacked from the top down and the bottom up. A heridary class has no right to exist. Even those who class-climb belong to that malignancy because they believe in giving their children the same advantages that they themselves never had. The fact that they believe they have a right to do that proves that they got their own success through luck or cheating, so they too deserve no respect for it. We must change our attitude towards successful people and look up to no one. These inferior people in superior positions attained them through birth or brown-nosing. Government should target its projects towards paying the talented to develop their talent from childhood on, instead of wasting money on the untalented or the addictively greedy rich parasites.
You demonstrate that anti-racism is a tool of class supremacy. "Mob rule" is a term used only by those who want Snob Rule, which is all a republic really is.
Because Clinton realized the things that he'd personally like (i.e. universal health care) and what was actually possible. Although a liberal, he governed as a centrist. Under his administration we actually had balanced budgets; under Obama we've had four consecutive trillion-dollar deficits. I don't recall Clinton ever calling politicial opponents hostage takers. He and the Republican Congress certainly had their differences (can anyone say "impeachment") but somehow he was able to work with them and get things done. Obama is no Bill Clinton. But after eight years of George W. Bush and four years so far of President Obama, I look back and I think, "(*)(*)(*)(*)... Clinton wasn't that bad. Balanced budgets, a working Congress, a booming economy, a national debt that was actually decreasing at the end of his second term." I'd take that any day of the week over what we've been getting with Bush and Obama.
If you actually like direct democracy.... Well, they kind of have that in Egypt. It's not very pleasant though.
Those who whine that the government ignores them and does what it wants illogically support the very system that enables that. Electing is not voting, it is choosing which pre-owned candidate will do all your voting for you. Egyptians didn't revolt because they wanted self-government; they only wanted a different kind of Master to make all their decisions for them.
Grover Cleveland was respectable....maybe Jefferson when he was out of office???? Not too many good choices.
easily by far the greatest president in the 19th century.bar none.Not corrupt and evil like that evil bastard Reagan who tripled the deficit worse than all presidents COMBINED at that point to a trillion because of his poilycs.yet the foolish american sheople think he was one of the greatest ever.
seeing your user name its easy to understand why you would make such a retarded post that one of the most evil and corrupt presidents of all time was the best ion the 19th century. Yes wilson was a douchbag,but Reagan was a far worse one.your funny.you obviously did not read his reason why he did not list that corrupt bastard in there which proves you are rambling.
the man who particaated in the coverup of the kennedy assassination and pardoned that evil bastard and mass murderer Dick Nixon? you guys are are hysterical.
I picked Truman. He's the only prez whose biography I've read. Besides that stupid reason, he wasn't a lying weasel; he read a lot of books; and he was clever and knowledgeable enough to speak what he thought and let the chips fall where they may instead of behaving like the usual fabricator/deceiver politician. I'm not however especially glad he chose to parade out our new-found ability to annihilate entire cities with just one bomb. But, if it wouldn't have been him it would've certainly been someone, from somewhere... eventually. Pandora's Box had already been opened by a host of physicists, not all working for America's interests.
No it didn't. http://economyinperspective.com/gdp Look at the previous link. The economy actually grew at a larger annual rate under Carter than under Reagan. The right wing mythology about Carter is absurd. He was a middling president, who did far less damage to the country than any of his successors. Reagan's presidency was average in the short term, and absolutely disastrous in the long term. The roots of almost every problem our country currently faces are traceable to Reagan's presidency. The debt crisis(Reagan almost tripled the debt while he was president). The financial collapse(which is a major cause of debt crisis as well), was a result of many things, but most notably deregulation in the banking industry, something started under Reagan and continued by Clinton and Bush. Reagan bailed out the banks before Bush did. He funded what later became Al Qaeda. There is almost nothing good that came out of the presidency. His one claimed accomplishment is an invention of right wing idiots. Speaking of that one invented accomplishment. Reagan had very little to do with the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union collapsed because of its own inefficiencies. The system was held together by force and the threat of force, when Gorbachev decided to reform and removed that threat, the system collapsed. Reagan had close to nothing to do with it. He wasn't the cause, and the Soviet Union didn't collapse while he was president. It confuses me what exactly he was meant to have done. Oh and he didn't cause them to collapse because they tried to compete with his insane military spending. The Soviet military spending was pretty much stagnant throughout Reagan's presidency. It is all a ridiculous myth sold to idiots who don't know any better. Once again, no he didn't. Carter negotiated the entire thing, all that happened was that the official release occurred the day Reagan took office, but the entire thing had been planned and agreed before Reagan ever got involved. So ultimately not a single reason you gave for ranking Reagan highly is actually accurate. Most of it is revisionist lies. Add that to the enormous debt Reagan left behind and his funding of the mujahideen in Afghanistan, and you have someone who could rationally be considered among the worst presidents of all time, but certainly not among the best. PS. Before people try to claim this is all partisan. I think Obama is a terrible president, I think Bush was terrible, I think Clinton was less terrible than the other two but still not great. So this isn't about partisanship, it is about an honest appraisal of the evidence!!
There is stuff to admire about Jefferson. He did things as a political philosopher and ex-president of value, but as president he was a mixed bag to be generous. His economic policies were disastrous, and his decision to put an embargo on British goods led to the war of 1812 and a serious economic disaster. Jefferson was hardly a great president.
The only choice is Zachary Taylor, he did basically nothing while in office, that is precisely what our president's should always do, just follow the Constitution and do nothing that prevents that... He was the perfect president, we need more like him...
