Can the GOP finally get down to business?

Well the GOP did do part of what they said that they would. When President Obama was first elected they said that they would prevent him from getting anything passed. They did a pretty good job there, but they also said that they were going to make sure that he was a "one term president". Ooooops!

So now that Obama has been re-elected and he can not be re-elected again, can the GOP settle down and work with him to get the United States back on the right track?

I'm not Obamas' biggest fan but I don't believe that you have to be a fan. You only need to want what is best for the United States.

Lets quit "overexaggerating" every little flaw and get on with business!

 

Do you think it is in the best interest of the US to make 12 million illegals, citizens, when we have 20 million Americans unemployed or only working part time? Many of those new citizens would be going after the same jobs Americans would like to have. Also, how many of those 12 million new citizens would be eligible for welfare and Social Security. Two programs that are already in trouble.

 

I think that everyone should go through a legal immigration process just like my grandad did when he immigrated from Germany.

 

Depends on what you mean by "business".

I'm guessing that the GOP is going to continue "business" as usual which means more laws on vaginas, impeding any type of potential economic stimulus, trying to gut the safety net, and rattling the sabres for the next war.

 

Your granddad was an intelligent productive europoid who quickly fitted into our society.
The spanish-speaking illegal aliens are the undesirable low IQ people that south and central
American countries are only too happy to get rid of. They are a fast-breeding toxic substance
loose in America. Their supporters are traitors. America needs a "day of the rope."

 

nice talking points but total BS. Getting back to work means stopping obama's spending spree that is taking the country down to bankruptcy hell.

getting back to work means cutting govt spending and getting a balanced budget------Budget. you know, that thing that obozo, reid, and the dems have not passed for 4 years in violation of the law.

 

We're way past that point. It might be a possibility if 1) Republican districts weren't so gerrymandered, and 2) if any of them had guts enough to face a primary challenge for being soft on Obama.

 

Sounds like the same argument that I've been hearing, but if you or I had all the answers, maybe one of us would have been getting sworn in today. There is no perfect plan! But if there can't be some compromising, it will just keep getting worse. GOP says the Dems won't compromise and the Dems say that the GOP won't compromise. Maybe the best bet would be to kick them all out and start over again. Isn't that what democracy is suppose to be?

 

The GOP is down to business - resisting the radical Hussein Obama agenda.

But do enlighten the forum retiredindependent, what is your "compromise" position on ObamaTax?

What is your "compromise" position on runaway federal spending (currently 25+% of GDP)?

What is your "compromise" position on partial birth abortion?

I keep asking this of alleged independents and rarely get a answer much different than die-hard Democrats.

 

Obama's spending spree?

 

Hmmm maybe you democrats should have voted in your people in 2010 then. Redistricting is not a secret when it happens you know.

Of course you were swept out of office which tells me that the people wanted the republicans to draw up the districts.

 

Essentially what you're asking is why won't the right accept the left's agenda and help them implement it. That's not the type of question a serious person would ask.

 

When did FactCheck.org become credible? They are just leftist shills.

Still nothing from retiredindependent on his "compromise" positions.

 

Thank you for posting this!

I get so tired of all the misleading information that continues to be spewed by the Right (Fox News is the biggest offender, of course, with half brain Limbaugh) that I don't even take the pain to setting the story straight anymore.

But I am glad you did, although I bet they will pretend they didn't see this graph, or that it is wrong. . .or whatever they can come up with to deny reality!

What will reduce the debt is to put people back to work, and we need a LOT of new infrastructure project. This would jump start the growing, but slow growing economy, and thus increase the GDP. . .which would then show that, even with the same amount of spending, the deficit would be a SMALLER percentage of the GDP.

We have witnessed what "austerity" programs have done to the economy in the UK. . it is pretty much killing their economy!

The "trickle down" has been tried and tried. . .and failed every time! What we need is a "bubble up" economy, where money is invested in infrastructure and provides jobs for the middle class . . .not tax breaks and loop holes for the wealthy who do NOTHING to increase employment, but "invest" either overseas or on Wall Street. . .and create more "bubble" of false wealth!

As the President said, it is not medicaid, medicare and social security that destroys the economy, on the contrary, it is money that is spent immediately, thus has a lot of velocity and trigger the economy at the base.

But listening to the GOP, it sounds like they believe that any money that goes to entitlements or welfare is just flushed down the toilet. . .when actually it keeps the basic economy going a lot better than investments on wall street!

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Obviously, for someone who only believes RIGHT WING sources, Factcheck.org is not credible. . because it removes the LIES spread by right wing sources!

You live in a world that only exist in the mind of the extreme Right!

 

The job of the GOP leadership is to misdirect and mislead any opposition, or potential opposition to the dismantling of America's Constitution and the individual liberty of her citizens.

There's no way to sugarcoat what the average democrat is - an ignorant, indoctrinated, easily misled fool. They deserve to lose their freedom, and they deserve to suffer the consequences of allowing power to be consolidated and centralized.

Citizens who would describe themselves as republican or conservative on the other hand, are more principled, better informed, and more difficult to dupe. The simple demagoguery that easily ensnares liberals/progressives/democrats is rejected out of hand by conservatives/republicans; so the task of misleading them and getting them to go along on what should be an obviously destructive path is much more difficult.

The goals of those who control our country, and both parties are obvious - unlimited, centralized power. 100 years after they succeeded in gaining control of our money supply, i.e. the FedRes Act, we have been transformed from a republic to a democracy; Americans have been severely dumbed down and are easily manipulated and controlled; the Constitution means nothing in terms of restricting the government; our currency has for all intents and purposes been destroyed; our treasury is bankrupt; and posterity is facing $100's of trillions of red ink.

None of that is an accident - and it didn't come about solely b/c Democrats beat the drum for communism. The leadership of the Republican Party did everything they dare do to advance the totalitarian rock down the field, while supposedly giving the appearance of "fighting the good fight".

Going back to Eisenhower, the task of the GOP leadership has always been to get out in front of opposition to the charge leftward to blunt and mislead it. When Eisenhower was elected America was pretty much sick and tired of the leftist nonsense of FDR and Truman. Eisenhower's job was to "normalize" the New Deal, flip the tables on the anti-communists in their efforts to root out the communists who were being protected and advanced within our government and society; protect the bankers above it all; and do it all while appearing to be exactly the opposite of what he really was, i.e. a traitor in the employ of the international bankers.

And so it goes with every Republican that is able to ascend to a leadership position. Rank and file Republicans and conservatives oppose much of what has been forced on them by their false leadership - yet, they continue to follow b/c the supposed alternative is so obviously disgusting.

From Eisenhower to today, you would think more Republicans/conservatives would catch on... but they are trapped in the "lesser of two evils" con-game.

After 100 years of systematic attack of the citizenry, there are so few American's left that truly understand freedom and the principles of limited government, that we are truly the smallest of minorities in the country. In the end, we will be some of the first people rounded up - it has always been thus; go along with the crowd, or be dragged to the edge of town and stoned to death (and not the good kind of stoned).

 

Notice that your graph shows that Obama produced almost as much more debt in four years as Bush did in eight?

 

"Economic stimulus"- yeah, just what we need. More of Obama's "stimulus".

ROFLMAO!!

 

Their publically stated priority in 2008 was to make sure Obama was a one term president....a totally Anti-America statement.

Well, they failed at that , I guess they can't lead very well.

Now , maybe a miracle will happen and the Repugnants will put America and Americans first....but I doubt it. Republican power is all they care about.

 

If I had the perfect compromise, they would have sworn me in yesterday. Neither party has a perfect plan but refusing to work at coming up with a workable plan doesn't help anyone.

 

-Scarborough

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/20/joe-scarborough-republicans-gerrymandering_n_2516281.html

All I can tell you is that the majority doesn't like theft.

 

Thanks, Todd and sadanie, more fodder for the leftists can't do math folder. Bush 8 years, Obama four. Obamma has spent a whopping 17 bilion less in four years than Bush spent in eight, and you are so mathematically challenged that you are actually asking what Obama spending spree? If Obama just maintains his current spending levels, he will be less than 1 percent of one year budget less than doubling Bush's previous spending record.

By the way REpublicans would love a workable compromise Obama however is a my way or the high way sort...

 

"If I had the perfect compromise, they would have sworn me in yesterday."

Taxcutter says:
Got anything you consider sorta workable?

 

Compromise?? What's there to compromise - both sides are playing for the same team, and that team ain't America.

You Republicans really think that Bush misleading you into going along with another $4-5 trillion worth of debt, and the Patriot Act's direct attack upon the 4th amendment was "the best deal we could get"??

As I said in my earlier post in this thread - there is no excuse for a democrat, they are completely ignorant; what is your excuse??

We now live in a country in which you can be forced to purchase something under penalty, law enforcement is increasingly using drones to surveil our society, the police can search your property and seize your possessions without a warrant, can arrest you without charge, and can hold you indefinitely - not to mention outright murder you if they've deemed you a "terrorist".

Our Constitution is under constant attack from both parties, and the vast majority of Amerikans, Republican and Democrat, are stupidly cheering it on.

Truly, all of you deserve to lose your freedom.

 

The only thing I'd point out about this is that the big number for Obama is due to 3 things:
1. George W. Bush's serial tax cuts.
2. George W. Bush's credit-card wars.
3. George W. Bush's recession.

All of which we are still paying for, and will be for years to come.