Why I don't like gays & why theyre ways should not become acceptable

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by RightToLife, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    So YOU say. I know differently. If you are against homosexual people... I don't trust a word you are saying. You WILL be opposed. Sorry.
     
  2. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    I know that. But if you come seeking to put your 'label' into or even 'onto' my face... you WILL be opposed. That is reality, when dealing with 'human' beings. So be it.

    No, YOU lack the ability to understand what you are actually seeing in other 'human' beings. And that is made evident by the irrational animus you put forth in your perspective and values. Sure, we won't agree on that (most likely), but you must realize that there are many who will tell you to check YOURSELF.

    You're certainly wrong enough about that; stop pretending to be an expert.

    I didn't say that you did.

    That's understandable. And there are many millions of others (including me) who fit that description. And I know there is typically more to people than what they themselves often realize or accept.

    I have no problem with your beliefs/religion nor any expression of the same which does not infringe upon the rights of others (whether they agree or disagree with the same).

    You 'believe' that; I am certain that isn't absolutely true. Muhammad deals with human beings doesn't he? Well, as much as I respect people's religion(s)... I have yet to meet religious people who are NOT flawed in every way which other human beings tend to be.

    You aren't 'flawless', neither is your religion. Still, you have a right to worship as you please (in America), as long as you don't seek to IMPOSE your beliefs. Push your religion on others, and you WILL be opposed.
     
  3. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    You can step off into the margins of society, which is exactly where you're headed (whether you know it or not).
     
  4. maori

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    Momo's a paedophile. He had sex with a 9yo child. And you think you'd have anything important/valuable to say about how gay men have sex because?

    And I think you need to read up on what it really means to be a courageous man. Blowing up women and children on a market is not the action of a brave man. Psychiatrists have a name for them: they're called psychopaths but I understand muslims call 'm brave men. Guess who's right Aloof.
     
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    Shh, careful, wouldn't want a fatwa against you now, would we?
     
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    The truth is not immune to fatwas?? :omg:
     
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    Hey! I want a fatwa too! We could have Draw Muhammed Day and all get one! ;)
     
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    You're saying that nose-pickers should stay in the closet? In your face, bigot!
     
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    Straights all know differently; otherwise, this perversion wouldn't disgust us and cause us to fear its consequences. Despite your chanting denials, we don't trust a word about your claim that your present public agenda is all you want.

    Homosexuality is a gateway to pedophilia. You will be opposed. I'm not sorry about that.
     
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    I'm sorry, but who's having gay sex in front of you?

    That is a lie, and you know it. And your ignorance will be opposed. I'm not sorry about that.
     
  11. RightToLife

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    great title to your post. we shouldnt be putting poor kids in a gay household to grow up mentally (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up and tormented at school its not fair to them.
     
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    Kids with gay parents grow up to be just as well adjusted as kids with straight parents. I would post studies, but we all know how much you hate science and reality. And if they get tormented at school, that's not anyone's fault but the children you raise to hate people they don't understand.
     
  13. RightToLife

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    nope.... how can having gay parents NOT be negative for a child's development
     
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    Homophobes are all closeted gays who want fear true sexual nature.
     
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    Why would it? Kids are raised in all sorts of households- I have known kids raised by 'two mothers'- a mother and grandmother in the same household- does it make a difference that they were not lesbians?

    I frankly don't get why you think a child raised by two financially stable gay men would be better off than a child raised by a single mother- other than your own phobia about gays.
     
  17. Johnny-C

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    No. Many who are straight (or pretend to be) are merely closed-minded, ignorant, bigoted and fearful people. You need to know that.

    More irrational animus. Please, get a grip on reality.

    Actually, in light of your deeply entrenched homophobia, which distorts your personal perceptions of what surely is.

    I cannot address each person's unreasonable fears; and I'll put more energy into defending myself (in any way necessary) to defend my humanity and that of others.

    The way you are thinking, shows that many have shown otherwise reasonable people, through a "gateway" that leads to fear, irrational animus and hatred.

    Yes, there WILL be fights about this. I'm expecting them and I always have.
     
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    Are you analogizing nose picking to homosexual sex or to the mere being open about having same-sex attraction? Goodness knows why you care so much. Fortunately, you don't get to decide whether other people are allowed to discuss aspects of their private lives with other people.

    You speak for all straights now? I know many straights who find gay sex a turn on: men who are turned on by lesbian sex and women who are turned on by gay male sex. So far it looks like you've anathemized: gay men, lesbians, bisexuals, bicurious and questioning people, straight people who have experimented with gay sex at any point in their lives, straight people who are turned on by gay sex between members of the opposite sex, straight people who are neutral towards gay sex, gay-for-pay sex workers, straight women who enjoy anal sex in either role, straight men who enjoy anal sex in either role, and, I'm sure, transgendered people. How small is this cloister of yours?
     
  19. Johnny-C

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    That's your own ignorance and closed-mindedness causing to perceive things as you do.
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    Maybe not "all"... but certainly many who are virulently anti-homosexual, have issues within themselves.
     
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    You have to admit it, seeing two men or two women getting married is a bit odd. Any 5 year old would notice it as something unusual. The moral issue can be debated, as personal morality may differ; but on it's face value...on the merit of appearance. It's odd.

    Frankly, I think it's "normal" to see it as "abnormal"...strictly on face value....no judging in terms of the morality of it.

    Even the most ardent defender of gay marriage, was persuaded to see it other than the "abnormality" it presents at face value. They learned to accept it as part of normality.

    That's my only point.

    I fail to see a connection of "homophobia" with simply seeing something as odd.

    Through a child's eyes, the truth is often revealed...and I believe any child would see it as a bit odd...watching two men or two women get married. They have the innocence of seeing the world void of the hang-ups and baggage we adults carry...and from this crystal clarity of a child's mind...I would bet, most would see this as something as less than normal.
     
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    It's not homophobic to see it as "odd". But to allow that feeling to dictate your views on what rights we should have, is irrational at best and homophobic at worst.
     
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    Relegating something as odd...whether it's a person with a scar, or missing a tooth...does not denote hatred...
    I'm certainly against the wholesale hatred of a class of persons, whether this be based on race, gender, religion or sexual preference. Hate takes it a step further, and with that, I'm on the side of supporting homosexuals.
     
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    Well I'm not exactly sure of your point - I haven't seen anyone on here say "you're odd but I support your right to full equality under the law". Those who like to point out how 'abnormal' it is usually oppose marriage equality and LGBT rights in general.

    Yes most people (especially kids) will find it "odd" the first time they see same-sex love because they are told men marry women and that's it. Which is why I'm not against teaching about SSM in schools.
     
  25. Johnny-C

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    Sex of ANY type can seem "odd", if it is not what you are accustomed to. I could make a list of such 'oddness' concerning BOTH gay/straight acts... but I will spare everyone the details.

    About 2 things really matter IMO:

    1. That there is no 'victim' or lack of legal consent (crime).

    2. That people are safe and reasonably sanitary in what they are doing (not seriously injuring one another or spreading diseases).

    Only IF they ("Any 5 year old...") were taught that it was "unusual". And wouldn't it be fair to ask, exactly why a 5 year old would be exposed to or taught about details about human sexuality anyway. I advocate for teaching kids about sex early... but 5-8 years old would be pushing things, IMO.

    That would be based upon your education, perceptions and personal experiences. You have the right to say that it is odd, but it surely isn't to everyone.

    Wrong, again.

    That is incorrect. It is apparent that you think or believe that others perceive human sexuality just as you do. That is something that pertains to yourself and others who think the way you do; not all see homosexuality as something "odd".

    Perhaps... as YOU learned or were taught to somehow see it as something 'abnormal'. It's YOUR perspective, and you need to accept that.

    Sorry, but your point is rather absurd.

    Educate yourself about 'homophobia' and what its full meaning implies; perhaps then you will see the appropriate correlation.

    More bias/ignorance expressed. Bottom line: Homosexuality is not "odd" to everyone. You really need to accept that as a fact. :)

    Okay then... get your hands on a reputable, peer-reviewed scientific study and then come back and discuss this "point" you are failing to verify/support.

    Again, it is fair to say that some people (or children) will find ANY sexual act to be strange/odd... but your claim certainly goes too far overall.
     

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