Part 2 of Post Your Tough Questions Regarding Christianity

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  1. taikoo

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    now
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    Perhaps I spoke too soon.

    One of the basic fundamentals of Abrahimic faiths is the belief in the same God.

    The God that Abraham (pbuh) prayed to is the same God in which Moses (pbuh) prayed to, who is the same God Jesus (pbuh) himself prayed to, who is also the same God Muhammad (pbuh) prayed to.

    Jesus (pbuh) wouldn't have existed had the Lord not created him.
     
  3. dairyair

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    I was giving ample opportunity. I thought maybe he'd have some good real backed up answers.

    Instead all he gives is his opinion/belief.
    Damaging christianity along the way, I might ad.
    Not surprisingly, disappointed.
     
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    LOL, you didn't have to convert me, I was a christian. Searching for some answers that I've not been able to find or understand on my own. Yes, an internet forum is not the best place but I have got some good things from them, or at least good places to go search.
    Why start a thread to answer questions, then answer them wrong or completely ignore many. If you think you're doing christianity any favors you'd be wrong.
    You are actually hurting the religion you believe in. I don't think that sits well with the creator. You should stop and learn your religion better before you discredit God any further.
     
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    What does the Scripture Titus 3:2 say?
     
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    Christianity destroyed paganism. Islam incorporated paganism that is why it is very anti Christ.
     
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    Yes, believe in the same God, and Muslim move away from that they created their own god that is different and not the same God of Abraham.
    Jesus is God, many times God have instructed Mohammed and Muslims to protect the true teachings and the Bible never did God ever said that the Bible is corrupt what God said was that there exist several Christians who are moving away from the true teachings of the Bible (heretics that dominate the Saudi desert, Nestorians and Arianism) instead, Muslims join the heretics and created their own religion called Islam worst is that they started to teach anti Christ.

    Tell me, do you believe Jesus Christ is the Saviour, Messiah, Son of God or not, do you promote that Jesus Christ is not Son of God? If you don't accept Jesus Christ is what he is the Son of God and you promote all the falsehood and character assassination then you are an anti Christ.
     
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    Oh you know, that kind of rigid nuttiness may damage christianity in the eyes of some, but not to me.

    I know christians who are highly intellectual and intellectually honest, people who live their faith.

    Who could not but respect such people?

    There is nothing wrong with hinduism, christianity or any other religion.

    There is a lot wrong with a lot of the people who attach themselves to an ism.
     
  9. dairyair

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    Are you another that makes stuff up? Why is that?
    When did God say christians are moving away from the bible? To whom? No other books were written since the bible was created in 350AD or whatever year it was. When did God say the bible is exactly his inspired word? As God himself never created the bible. Constantine and his priests created the bible from books and letters written centuries and millenia earlier.
     
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    You are surprised? Show us a fundamentalist who is not constantly making things up (aka lying)!
     
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    No christianity did not destroy paganism you follow it till this day.
     
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    You are correctthat paganism resurrected with the Renaissance which returned the Western Culture back to the days of Rome and Greece before Christianity repressed those behaviors and social institutions, starting in 380AD.

    Theo I mandated Univerasl Christianity at that time, and out lawed pagan worship, closed down their temples and meeting places, destorying their idols and statues, and removing the names of the Gods of their Pantheon from all references to them, essentially burning writings or mention of the Myths which portrayed them.

    In the Renaissance, what did not happen was the revival of the myths and the concepts that gods were involved with the congregations that flocked together and did the same things without references to religions.
    Gays still behaved homosexually, but never again referred to Eros as their patron saint or Ideal leader whose image lived in the future genrations after they themselves died.



    Zech. 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened, (the New Testament i.e.; the holy comforter), to the house of David,(i.e.; Christianity), and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem,(those who say they are Jews but are not: [Rev 3:9]), for sin and for uncleanness.


    Zech. 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, (380 AD, when Emperor Theodosius I enacted a law establishing Catholic Christianity as the official religion of the Roman Empire and ordering others to be called heretics), saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and (Paganism) shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets, (especially of Astrology), and the unclean spirit(of Libidinal sexual excesses) to pass out of the land.
     
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    The three Abrahamaic religions are all rooted in the same scriotures, yes.

    But the detour in 32AD separated the three, based upon the revelation that Truth was the "son-of-God," which is the grace from the ever unfoling father of everything in the Real World that we experience and are privy to as men.

    The Jews and muslims have not yet realized this major event in Abrahamaic religion, that the Father has been defined since the appearance of his son, who is The Truth, or the ideal of that concept.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd:

    Muslims are told to believe all of the Koran or none of it.
    Christians pick and choose what they believe about the Bible.
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    I can't speak for the other 2 to 3 billion practicing Christians in the world but I believe everything in the Holy Bible, afterall the Holy Bible is the Word of God, and since God is perfectly Holy, everything He says is the truth!

    When God said He flooded the entire earth during the time of Noah, He means He flooded the entire earth and not just partially by an isolated flood occurring only in the Middle East.
     
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    You really are beyond any help fundamentalist to the core huh? Sickening.
     
  16. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd:

    A Catholic priest dreamed up the Big Bang Theory. It's a religious theory of creation that's passed off as being scientifically based.
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    Did you read this on some atheist website?...lol To my understanding the scientific community has embraced this Big Bang Theory as the birth of the universe.

    They claim that all matter was compressed so tightly into the size of a pinhead before the huge explosion...wow! how did they come up with that explanation? That is just so mind boggling to say the least!
     
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    Rabbits chew their cud, then? And bats are birds? And eating shellfish is an abomination? Nobody. Nobody believes everything in the Holy Bible. It's riddled with contradictions and outright falsehoods.

    Now why is it that geologists can find clear markers for floods in the geologic column, but there is no sign of any global flood anywhere near the located time? You believe something which has been categorically proven wrong.
     
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    No actually what's mind boggling is to think that a man made created god did it all.....and to take the creation myth in the bible literal is dangerous.
     
  19. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorn Captain:

    If the Bible is not completely and TOTALLY (Old and New Testament) literally true....Creation, Noah's Ark, the Sun standing still for Joshua for a day.....then how can we accept that the Resurrection is true?
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    When reading the bible one has to pay close attention to the context. Some things it is obvious it is meant to be taken literally and other times it is clearly symbolic but they both may be one hundred percent true.

    For example, if I say, "This morning my mom drove me to work," you understand I mean something very different than if I say, "This morning my mom drove me up a wall."

    Jesus said a lot of things that were symbolic, parables, or obvious metaphors such as, "You must eat my flesh and drink my blood." or "You must be born again." He was speaking life-changing truth and was not speaking literally. One should be able to distinguish between things that are symbolic and things that are scientific. One is not more true than the other, they're just different ways of expressing truth.

    So I'm not saying we shouldn't take the bible seriously. To the contrary, I'm suggesting we fail to take it seriously when, like a parable or metaphor, we insist on taking it literally instead.

    In contrast, in Luke 1, Luke insists that he’s reporting historical events carefully checked against the testimony of eye witnesses. That’s an unmistakable sign that he expects to be taken literally. The crucifixion, the death, and the resurrection of our Lord Savior Jesus Christ are all to be taken literally.
     
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    What EYEWITNESSES? People keep posting eyewitnesses to this jesus but fail to post evidence of these EYEWITNESSES.Historical? You would have better luck proving Alice in Wonderland historical.
     
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    Why did God choose a flood to wipeout mankind? Why would the animal kingdom need to have suffered needlessly for the sins of humans? Secondly, why isnt the act of wiping out mankind which would have no doubt killed innocent people as well not be considered equally or if not more evil than any act humans took part in?
     
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    Another good question: why didn't he just strike everyone down and leave Noah, his family, and the animals? Why the needless theatrics?
     
  23. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dairyair:

    I was raised to believe the bible is 100% the literally inspired word of God. I don't believe that any more. Not sure what the bible is at this point.
    And if God is really truly merciful and loving, he isn't going to send 2/3 of his creation to torment for all of eternity. IMO
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    But were you also raised to know that the bible can't be taken literally 100% of the time? There are a lot of things that are said symbolically or metaphorically, it all depends on the context but whatever the bible expresses, it is expressing truths.

    God is truly merciful and loving, that's why He sent His only begotten Son Jesus Christ our Lord Savior to save all of mankind from the punishment of sins.

    Jesus Christ payed the penalty for everyone's sins and so now all an individual has to do is repent their sins, ask for forgiveness and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord Savior. We are all sinners and everyone of us deserves to be punished but as I have just mentioned we all have an oppurtunity to redeem ourselves through Christ!

    If you can't do something that is so easy to do, then it is you who are sending yourself to hell, not God but you! If you do this simple task then your reward is eternal heavenly bliss in God's Kingdom of Heaven!

    So in otherwords it is an individual's choice of where they end up in the eternity and nobody elses. Be honest to yourself, you know you are a sinner like everyone else and so do yourself a favor and repent, ask for forgiveness, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord Savior and save your own self! Do it as soon as possible...ASAP!
     
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    Cannot answer the eyewitness question huh. Thats what I thought.
     
  25. Mitt Ryan

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wyrd of Gawd:

    God isn't doing so great. Kick him to the curb.
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    Being the Creator of all existence, I'd say He is Great! He deserves eternal worship! His is Life! He is Truth! He is Almighty God!
     
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