"Looking Back at Arab Spring,Looking Forward to European Summer."

I do not fear them, I know they are my enemy and will treat them as such. Not my problem MaO'Bama voters do not pay attention.

 

yeah a billion people you dont know and dont have a clue about besides what you heard on some fear mongering hate radio show , but they still are your enemy.

You obviously are scared (*)(*)(*)(*)less and for no reason at all. Sad to see that actually.

 

We have quite a few "clues" about them. They are expanding extralegal "muslim only" areas all over Europe,and have released numerous statemements announcing their intention ot mount cooridinated attacks to further their agenda there.

You, like ALL Leftninies, just REFUSE TO LISTEN, just like the "arab spring" warnings.

 

Sure the non excisting no go zones and some fringe elements like you stating their purpose, yes europe is gone, already said it

Yes, europe is no different from those arab nations

For a dereanged person you are quite funny.

 

FOr a deluded person, you are typical.

Which part of your arse did you pull the asinine notion that it's I who have announced the European islamists intention to assail European nations this summer, to forward muslim control?

It is their OWN proclamation, not mine. Read the OP.

"Muslim only" areas are "non existent"? And the "arab srping" was all about "democracy". too, right?

Ridiculous how completely you can convince yourself of anything, no matter how obviously inane.

 

You ask me for a source from me then you say you've proven enough without proving sources of your own?

Let me guess, your mom dropped on ya on yer head when you was a baby

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Yes, there actually are philosophical differences.

 

So you assume that they're bad without evidence because you don't like Muslims? Am I supposed to find that more reliable?
If you look at what the group is saying and doing, they don't appear to be fundamentalists most of them don't hide that about themselves. And they'd be more likely to be in cahoots with other terrorists for the time being for mutual benefit. They'd also probably be trying to get the western natons out of there,but assume what you like.

Most of the Muslims in France(which has the largest Muslim population) come from Algeria where they were originally Hakris or Algerians in the French army working against revolutionary Algerians during the civil war. The heritage of Muslims in Europe mostly come from similar stock. Former British imperial collaborators, Turks, Kurds, and other more secular Muslims ethnics groups and so on, but I guess it's safe to assume these different and not historically fundamentalists groups who are often at odds with each other have an agenda to conquer us all. It's fine to dismiss all Muslims as nazis and part of a monolithic group out for world domination but for the love of christian god don't assume any of them could be good or even normal harmless people. That's crazy.

 

Hardly; I just DO NOT assume that they are "good" without knowing, unlike the NY Times,and you, apparently.

 

In any large group I'm sure there are some that are bad but I'm looking at what they accomplished and their stated reasons for doing so. This was a mob, not an organized group. These rose up to rid a militia who threatened their country and their allies.

You said yourself that you assumed they were secretly a jihadist group despite the contrary witness verified events that took place
" The attack on the American Mission in Benghazi that killed Ambassador Stevens, on the 11th anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks, was an affront to many in Benghazi, which Mr. Stevens had made his base during the uprising. He became a familiar, cheerful presence at public events.

“We want justice for Chris,” read one sign among the estimated 30,000 Libyans, including families, who marched into Benghazi’s main square on Friday to protest in front of the chief encampment of Ansar al-Shariah.

Some held signs reading “The ambassador was Libya’s friend” and “Libya lost a friend.” Many protesters carried Libyan flags, and government police officers could be seen mingling with the marchers.

Members of Ansar al-Shariah held a counterdemonstration, and arguments erupted between the opposing sides, but no violence occurred, at least not initially. Protesters chanted: “You terrorists, you cowards. Go back to Afghanistan.” . "

There's actually evidence for my "assumption". Yours appears to be a knee jerk reaction brought on by preconceived notions.

 

What they have "accomplished" thus far is diddly squat. Let's see what happens, shall we?

I remember when the SAME NY Times was calling the "arab spring" a leap for Freedom, which it IS NOT, and COMPLETELY MISSED the OBVIOUS ( to most sentient persons), that it was a GUISE for an ISLAMIST POWER GRAB, which is what is has proven to be.

I guess they had "preconceived notions" like the asinine Obama Adm. did, as well.

My dubiousness of the motives of any gathering of angry peoples in Northern Africa are WELL FOUNDED in the bitter reality of recent events.

There is NOTHING "preconceived" about it....

 

I thought a youtube video caused the death of a US ambassodor?

 

Once again you misunderstood.

Just like your position of fear mongering , doom and being scared by anything related to islam or those letters, the position of those crazed islamist is a fringe one at best.
What you fail to realise is just like your opinion: the barely anybody cares about the people you use as evidence why europe is "going to fall quickly".

Just a bunch of crazy people talking to each other scaring each other.


Add to that youre dislike for europe and you get the "europe will fall" BS supported by some lunatics nobody cares about except law enforcement because you never know when some of you lunatics might snap and actually go do something crazy .

 

I have given sources abouve but ok you "happen" to miss them no problem some others.

read this book for example enlighting:

http://www.amazon.com/Catholicism-Roots-Nazism-Religious-Socialism/dp/0199843457

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/reviews.jsp?did=0711-gardiner

http://books.google.be/books?id=RreXLeUG_AIC&pg=PA71&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

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No you are probably like most people: blind to reality.


Well I am waiting for the evidence that the whole of nazism was utterly against any religion.

As a self declared scholar and expert on the matter this answer should be good .

 

The Nazi's tolerated the Christian church but faith in God was never allowed to interfere with faith in the higher being for them - Adolph Hitler.

And the Nazi's were very friendly with the Muslims.

Still are in fact.

 

They banished a dangerous militia.

The arab spring has been a leap forward in freedom, several of those nations have gained the right to vote and practiced it. I would of been more satisfied with a secular party winning the day but it's not my choice. If the Islamic parties aren't moderate or refused to moderate well then we cut off the funds, simple. Freedom doesn't mean getting our way. But even in Egypt where the Muslim brotherhood won, the people there right now are protesting them in large numbers demanding a more secular world view. So yes, well see. But still, the destruction of vile dictatorships is a good first step. Sadly, the best organized elements of the opposition aren't the secular forces that started the revolution but the Islamic parties that were allowed to exist n some form in those countries for decades(mostly due to the fear of cracking down on religion the tyrants had).

It is preconceived when you immediately assume the worst about people because of the region they live in, religion and so on, despite what they say or do. Actually, the right word for that is prejudiced, as in pre-judge. Keep an open mind. If liberty fails, it'll be sad but don't turn your back on the people fighting for progress because in under two years they haven't managed to turn their society completely around after many decades of neglect. Right now their forming the history that will act as a pillar for change. Despite all the sloganeering words of politicians across the world, change doesn't happen over night.

 

Balderdash! Spouting MSNBC MaO'Bama voting pro-Islamo propaganda serves you poorly. Anyone with a fricking brain knows that Grokmaster is absolutely right. The Islamo goal of a seventh century Caiphate from Morracco to Turkey is what the Islamo Bros. are after. The Islamo's have proven themselves to evil and have already broaken theoir promises, just look at Egypt and the power grab by Morsi. Get real. Get a clue.

 

Lofty goal, again they have the same chance of that as I do with my Megan Fox, Amanda Seyfreid fantasy.

Morsi is a democratically elected leader and his power has been checked by various forces within the country. Right now the people have more of a right to criticize him and the brotherhood than they ever did under Mubarak. I have a lot of faith the Egyptians will turn it around. And seriously buddy if you got an issue with what I said, be specific about what's propaganda and what exactly you're talking about.

and fyi the Caliphate would extend further than Turkey. You're forgetting Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, The caucus region of Russia, parts of the Philippines, Indonesia, Xinjiang province in China and more.