Bladerunner Pistorius charged with murder

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  1. Abu Sina

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    Oscar Pistorius murder charge: South African police deny burglary claims


    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/14/oscar-pistorius-murder-charge-south-africa


    4 gunshot wounds!!

    That's surely a sign of anger and emotional killing not just a burglar you are trying to stop entering the house?
     
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    Abu, I just posted and article on this tragedy.
     
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    really where?

    Do you think it was murder?
    Do you think he knew it was her?
     
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    Yeah.. I think it was murder.

    The police had been called previously for domestic problems.
     
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    ah didn't know that

    4 bullets means anger and usually pre mediated I heard
     
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    Bladerunner shoots girlfriend...
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    Pistorius' girlfriend was a model, law graduate
    Feb 14,`13 -- The woman shot dead in double-amputee Olympian runner Oscar Pistorius' house was a model, a law school graduate and an entrepreneur committed to empowering women.
     
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    Pistorius has been accused of domestic violence in previous occasions and the tragedy could be premeditated murder associated with domestic abuse and he may have anger management issues common among athletes who use anabolic steroids. It's still hard to rule out another possibility that he accidentally shot his girl friend, mistaking her for a burglar, because South Africa is known for its unusually high rates of homicide and violent crime and living in an up-scale gated community may not ensure safety of rich South Africans.
     
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    I am not making any deductions, I was not there. But yes, on th eone hand, we do live in fear as home invasions are way to common in SA. But on the other hand, the circumstances are very strange. The charge of murder does not mean that SAPS has excluded his defence, it is common practice in such a case, while investigations are ongoing.

    But an interesting and sad story indeed.

    AH
     
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    I agree with much of what you say but have to disagree that a charge of murder is made when investigations are ongoing. This is not so. There is a prima facie case for the charges to have been brought.
     
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    You really do LOVE to jump to conclusions with so little evidence. The couple argued previouly so it must be murder.

    I have no idea if it was Murder or not. I have not seen nearly enough evidence anyway. I have no doubt you will constantly argue that it was murder whatever comes out. Ill keep an open mind until after a full investigation.
     
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    It's very kind of you to save South Africa the trouble of gathering all the evidence and holding a trial. Now you've given the verdict, you just need to pass sentence. Don't want to rush you but there are so many unsolved cases out there though since you can apparently resolve them just by reading a single news article I'm sure you can cut through the back-log in no time at all.
     
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    Maybe Abu sina thinks pretorius is a jew then he wouldn;t have to have evidence, he would just know he was guilty.

    If A Burglar in South Africa entered my house I would empty the whole clip into him.
     
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    The Afrikaans daily Beeld dedicated five full pages to the story, with its front page story, headlined "Dood agter deur [Dead behind door]", saying it understood Steenkamp was shot four times through a bathroom door.

    According to the paper, the police and security guards were called to his house about two hours before the shooting, after neighbours heard him and Steenkamp argue. The police were called out a second time around 3am after neighbours heard gunshots, reported Beeld, quoting an unnamed Silver Woods estate resident.

    A security guard said her body was found in the bathroom.

    http://mg.co.za/article/2013-02-15-oscar-pistorius-arrives-in-court
     
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    You were right the first time.. The cops had been there two hours earlier... and he shot her 4 times thru the bathroom door.
     
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    There is no doubt that he shot her through the bathroom door but we don't yet know why.

    You may have suspecions ,Margot, but you seem to have made up your mind without a full investigation having taken place.

    It may well be that he decided to murder her, if so its a strange way to murder your wife knowing that you will get caught.
     
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    They weren't married.. Just dating a few months.

    Roid rage?

    He's charged with premeditated murder.
     
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    OK killing your Girlfriend.

    Roid rage? Since he is an olympic athlete he can't take steroids because there is constant testing. How would roid rage be premeditated?

    He is charged since SA charges before a full investigation happens.

    You want him to be guilty. I just want the truth-if it is murder I want him locked up for life if it isn't he should go free. WIth you its always political.
     
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    Appears to be a spontaneous murder out of rage, could be they were arguing over her leaving him or ending the relationship. The your mine or no ones syndrome but who knows, none of us know at this point even the authorities its all speculation
     
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    Right and he'd skipped competing...

    Has nothing to do with politics.. I don't know anything at all about politics in South Africa.

    Premeditation can be formed in a moment according to the law.
     
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    Exactly -its all speculation at this point except to Margot it seems

    So you know nothing of South African politics, There is me surprised :roflol: . I meant your choices are political -A woman is dead so the man must be guilty. In the same way as you take position in a black vs white issue.

    I will wait for the evidence

    So why take steroids?

    Like to prove that?
     
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    What is wrong with you.. This story isn't about politics.. Its about murder.. and there was no one in the house except the two of them..

    If she'd shot him 4 times thru the bathroom would you call that political?

    Take a look at the Jodi Arias trial.. and tell me its "political".
     
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    Margot your correct in all your stating. Where you go wrong is your making it "CERTAIN" hes guilty and no one knows that at this point and we wont know until the jury says so.
     
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    I didn't say I was "certain".. I said he was charged with premeditated murder.. and unless an intruder needed to use the bathroom, this was no accident. The cops had been out there two hours earlier.

    The unwarranted mythology of Pistorius.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/15/the-unwarranted-mythology-of-oscar-pistorius.html

    Athletes fall off their pedestals all the time.
     
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    I'm still waiting for your proof of your statement of
    Margot.

    What has the Jody Arias trial got to do with the fact that it is so simple to preduict whether you will find someone guilty ot not.

    Ill bet you thought that the Duke Lacrosse team were guilty.
     

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