College apparently doesnt make you smart.

mdrobster

Well look at our president, he went to Harvard, and he is the worst president this country has ever had. He is the poster child of what this thread is about.

I might add here that a person should go to school to be an engineer, doctor, or a teacher. Look at people that go to college and get a degree in fine arts. All that means is they wasted 4 years of their life and drank a lot of beer. They can now be found in their parents basement or asking you "do you want fries with that burger"!

 

Whats wrong with drinking beer???

 

fiddler

If you had a relative that flies a jet fighter, wouldnt you want him or her to have a RAM to maybe get away from the enemy, or help the to remain in control untill they can get to a lower altitude where they may be able to restart their engine?

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game

Again the beer drinkers with a degree in fine arts can be found in their parents basement, or asking you if you want fries with that burger.

 

Engineering student here..........you do realize that those engines and the shafts that connect to the propellers are ginormous and weigh a (*)(*)(*)(*)load don't you. This isn't some outboard motor they slap on the back of a ship it can take up several decks and a good length of the ship for the shafts. It's the same reason that cars and train engines don't have a "back up engines"

 

really

Yes I am aware. What I am saying is two smaller engine rooms each having an engine that produces 25000 horsepower, rather that one that produces 50,000 horsepower would be better. BTW they probably wouldnt take up any more room, then the people wouldnt have had to endure what they did.

 

I would take Pres Obama's common sense over yours every day of the week, irrelevant of your politics.

Only the uneducated mock the educated. I most certainly know people that went for computer science and electrical engineering that are useless, but it wasn't based on their education. People with common sense already know that without having to tell them.

 

Just some perspective.

 

Wow, that looks like a backup engine.

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For the 2nd time, the auxilary engine is not for flight.

 

mdrobster

I know what APUs are for, and yes they are not used to fly the plane.

Oh and FYI I just calls them as is sees them!

And lastly that last insult really hurts. Since Obama has no common sense at all, and you claim I have less is really hurtful!!!

To prove he has no common sense, he apparently thinks we can go on spending a trillion dollar a year we dont have.

 

I'm not highly edumucated nor an engineer but somewhere along the line 2 engines will take up more room. Just think of your average V-8 engine. Split it in half and have two sets of 4 cylinders. The cylinder configuration might stay the same but now you need two crankshafts on the pistons. Crankshafts travel in a circle requiring area. Reduce that area and you then require more RPMs to produce the same HP output. RPM's = equal higher maintenence and more probability of failure, shorter overall life. Two prop shafts? Bad idea where area = revenue. One shaft with a coupler? Still takes up room but better than 2 shafts.

Bottom line is room = revenue. At the prices they charge for those little closets I quarentee somebody thought it through good.
Overall your premise is correct. Two is better. But the bean counters cost analysis won out.
If it makes you feel better those bean counters were college educated too

 

This is just too poetic, the bus should have had two engines.
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sidesho...triumph-passengers-breaks-down-180125626.html
One of the charter buses carrying passengers of the ill-fated Carnival Triumph cruise ship broke down just 45 minutes into its journey, a bitter coda to what must have been one of the worst vacations since the Griswolds went to Wally World.

Sorry I hurt your feelings, but going out of your way to cast aspersions at people's education by telling them it didn't help them isn't diplomatic. That is basic common sense.

 

Well ------------------blather away, and if you didnt pick a degree with some relevance, remember to take off your hair net off before you leave the burger joint. If you dont people will point and smirk and say college boy.

 

I will remember that the next time you mention what a college education is for,
BTW, I have a graduate in Comp Sci.

Then when I am sitting in first class, I will look back at you, and smile.

 

When the engines die you'll cushion his blow. Nice guy!

 

LOL, well I don't why logical has this pension to attack college educated people, but he takes it to the extreme.
First class is always the first to bite it in a plane crash. Of course, I could deploy logical's auxilary turbine just in time to save the flight.

 

One of the biggest myths of the 20th century was that you need a college education to make a mark in the STEM fields.

Thomas Edison had no degree. Neither did Ford nor Boole.

I have a BA in physics, and was about to get a Phd in Astronomy in before quitting grad school (I was awarded a MS as a consolation prize, lol.) In all of those years of education, there was not a damn thing I could not have learned through self-study.

Perhaps if there were some sort battery of competence exams an autodictat could take to prove their mastery of a subject (comparable to the Bar exam law school grads go through), then the idea of self-taught engineers, scientists and mathematicians might be seen as practical.

 

Why can't we predict/prepare for every conceivable situation in the future???!!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!11111111111ONE????

 

Totally agree. They probably should have kept some livestock on the boat, and maintained a garden, in case both engines failed. Then they could keep growing food to feed the passengers. Also, they should have had shotguns and crowbars on-board in case of a zombie outbreak.

Or maybe you have to weigh decisions about contingencies against profitability and go with the least deadly option that provides for the most income.

Your thread title is right, though. College doesn't make you smart. The only people I know who think that it does are those who only graduated from high school, if that. Being able to complete a 4 year degree is a pretty good indicator of someone who was smart and ambitious to begin with, though.

 

Good luck getting that through security. thats gonna be one hell of a cavity search.

Unfortunately, to some degree I understand where logical1 is coming from.
Speaking for myself I've seen plenty of higher educated folks than I who, while they might grasp a concept, lack the ability to bring that concept into reality.
ie they know how a seesaw works but they could'nt build one if you gave them all the parts.
I've got tons of humorous stories on the issue. Some other day......

 

But the work Edison did is petty much covered in an "Introduction to Electronics" class.

There is a GIANT difference between what you need to have learned to string filaments of thread inside a glass globe, and what you need to know to correctly layout traces on a chip that will operate at 40 BILLION operations per second and do 50 MILLION calculations in a second.

Edison figured out NOVEL but actually simple ideas. Current engineers have to figure out ENORMOUSLY COMPLEX ideas.

Certainly a person can teach themselves ANYTHING, although bootstrapping up certain fields is a bit tough without the resources of a large university labs and the advice people who are currently advanced in the field to give you at least SOME guidance.

 

Do costs not exist under socialism or something?

 

At least they did better than the retards who designed the Titanic or the people who insisted on the (*)(*)(*)(*)ty design for it.

 

Well, we'll find out one day. The reason we want it is that they will only be one of the factors under democratic consideration instead of the only consideration's being how the profiteers can screw us. I doubt there will be much call for two engine rooms even then however, exept from the ex-bosses in their nuthouses, swinging on the chandeliers..

 

Funny, in all the news coverage about this, I haven't seen anything about the ship being designed by young just-out-of-college students. In fact, I haven't seen a goshdarn thing about ANY of the people who designed the ship.

So is the point of this thread just to assume things for the purpose of bashing college?