Why is there an orchestrated effort to normalize and legitimaize homosexuality?

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  1. kreo

    kreo Well-Known Member

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    Not sure what homophobia means, but special right for gays is definitely an issue.
     
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    leekohler2 New Member

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    Then there is no need for special rights for opposite sex couples.
     
  3. kreo

    kreo Well-Known Member

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    May be, but then you have to find a way to make man and woman responsible for their children. You will be overwhelmed if you try to decide every relationship on case by case basis. So you need set of prearranged laws and regulations.
    That prearranged law is called - marriage.
    Marriage is only relevant to man and woman
    all other types of relationships
    DO NOT REQUIRE government intervention.
    so gay marriage is a nonsense and special rights for gays.
     
  4. Osiris Faction

    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Tough nookies, this isn't nazi germany.

    If you want totalitarian rule move to communist china.

    We aren't going anywhere and we certainly aren't going to be silent about our rights to appease people like you.
     
  5. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    What about gay people and their children?

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    Damn right about that.
     
  6. RightToLife

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    their acquired children?
     
  7. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    What's the difference? Infertile straight couples "aquire" children too.

    Video for you:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMLZO-sObzQ

    And this kid is already far more well spoken than you are.
     
  8. RightToLife

    RightToLife New Member

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    what ever happened to "welcome to ignore" lol....

    like i give a fu*k about how my grammar is on an online forum. this aint school
     
  9. RightToLife

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    he seems like hes got something to hide TBH....not even trolling thats the feeling i got from watching that. hes a good speaker tho
     
  10. leekohler2

    leekohler2 New Member

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    Watch him and learn. He was raised by gay people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYqFQzI6Q_M
     
  11. Johnny-C

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    It's not school... but it is a place where textbook examples of 'homophobia' abound.
     
  12. RightToLife

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    well my dislike of gays has only grown from being in school. funny how that works out
     
  13. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Your issues are yours to deal with. Get into other people's lives with YOUR problems... you will reap as you sow; bet on it.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    Nah, those would be the children they had either with an opposite sex partner, through artificial insemination, or the use of a surrogate mother.

    You really show your lack of knowledge on the subject, how hollow and thoughtless your opinion is.
     
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    Sorry but gay marriage contributes to the degradation of the absolute moral values that our culture was founded upon.
     
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    How do we know what these absolute moral values are? When the bikini was first introduced, it was denounced as immoral. Were we wrong then, or are we wrong now?
     
  17. kreo

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    Gay people with children is exactly the same as all other people with children.
    Relationship of unrelated man and woman creates life, so that relationship is unique, It requires regulation and licensing.
    All other relationships are private matter and have nothing to do with government.
     
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    You are ignoring (leaving out) so much. And that makes what you suggest very inaccurate.
     
  19. kreo

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    Everything I say is supported by hard science not by the wooodoo court system.
     
  20. Johnny-C

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    No kreo, you interpret what you say as being supported by hard science. In reality, the bulk of what you are saying is refutable and has been refuted.

    You are not relating any new homophobic notions here... it's the same old stuff.
     
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    Except gays can and do produce children using methods utilized by heterosexuals as well.

    That's where your argument face plants hard.

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    Except artificial insemination, the use of surrogate mothers, adoption....those are all hard sciences that contradict you.
     
  22. kreo

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    Except that relationship between two gays does not need to be regulated or licensed because it has no effect on the society.
    You want license and regulate gays for the sole purpose to give them benefits, i.e. special rights.
     
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    How can you refute the fact like 2x2=4?
    Among many types of relationships only heterosexual relationship between two unrelated people require regulation and licensing.
    If relationship between two gays is licensed and regulated for no reason, that means gays knocked out special rights.
    Johnny, it is very simple, it is just political struggle, you have got benefits because you politically strong, enjoy it.
    But people should know that gay-marriage is not an equality it is special welfare for gays.
     
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    If regulation of offspring were the only purpose, why is it time and time again it's been upheld as a fundamental right concerning privacy and dignity between couples who in some cases have no potential of such a thing - prisoners on death row for example. "Deathbed" marriages at unlicensed locations. And of course the fact that elderly couples aren't denied licenses, there are no laws against known infertile heterosexual couples marrying, and no annulment or get-out clause for partners of post-menopausal or recently-discovered-to-be-infertile spouses. Sooo much evidence to contradict your notion of marriage being just about regulation and not human dignity.
     
  25. DevilMay

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    And apparently "special welfare" for all the other couples I mentioned, according to your logic. If you're going to extend that kind of treatment to ANY couple in an identical situation in terms of their ability to procreate, you cannot in good conscience withhold it from same-sex couples. Given the current configuration of marriage and how it has been held as a matter of dignity, privacy and civil rights irrespective of the potential for children, you don't have a leg to stand on.
     

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