US kills 10 more innocent civillians in Afghanistan

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  1. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ahh, so not a single thread started by you about the shockingly awful atrocities committed by the Russian government. I'm shocked! Either Russia is the Mother Theresa of the world-stage or you're a flaming hypocrite and phony. I know which one I think it is.
     
  2. Marshal

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    No. You should read my quote from 5 years ago. I was complaining about terrorists. Today I am still complaining about terrorists. One thing is in common, they kill children.

    Another thing is common. I get arguments from nationalist fanatics. Yes. You sound something just like the Muslims who I endlessly criticized years ago. People never change.

    It's all fun and games until its your eyes which are poked out.
     
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    Bump #4 of 20 in honour of the 10 muggles killed in Afghanistan.
     
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    Pakistan's Shias under attack as bomb kills 90


    By Rick Moran
    February 19, 2013



    There have been several bombs targeting Pakistan's minority Shia population in recent weeks, the latest killing at least 90 in a crowded market.


    A massive explosion on Saturday at a crowded market in the southwestern Pakistani city of Quetta killed 80 to 90 people and wounded nearly 200, primarily Shi'a Muslims (NYT, LAT, AP, ET, CNN, Reuters, BBC). The attack took place in an area dominated by the city's minority Hazaras, a Shi'a sect that is often the target of violent sectarian attacks by Sunni extremists. Hundreds of Hazara women staged a sit-in on Sunday to protest the blast, refusing to bury their dead until authorities pledged to hunt down the perpetrators (NYT, AP, ET, Dawn, BBC). And thousands of Shi'a Muslims protested across Pakistan on Monday, demanding that the country's security forces protect them from violent Sunni extremists (Post, AP, The News, DT, ET, Dawn).

    News reports in Pakistan say the devastating bombing could have been prevented if military intelligence and police officers had followed up sufficiently on evidence gathered against a faction of the notorious Sunni extremist terrorist group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi that was responsible for the double-suicide bombing in Quetta on January 10 that killed over 100 Shi'a Muslims (The News). Pakistani authorities, and particularly the powerful military, are under intense pressure from the public to stem what many are calling genocide of Pakistani Shi'as (Guardian, Reuters).

    On Tuesday, Pakistani officials announced that a security operation will take place in response to the Quetta bombing, and also replaced the police chief of Balochistan Province (AP, Dawn, ET). The statement from Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf's office did not provide any details on the operation, and came as Shi'a Muslims protested for the third day in Quetta against the government's failure to prevent the attack.​


    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog...er_attack_as_bomb_kills_90.html#ixzz2LMuABnAd

    So while our drones kill terrorists and are blamed for killing civilians, terrorist kill civilians by the bushel and nothing is really said.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you consider yourself a nationalist fanatic? Are there any threads that you've started highlighting the shockingly awful acts committed by the government of your country? Does your country commit shockingly awful acts?
     
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    Civilian collateral damage decreases in Afghanistan...
    :clapping:
    UN: Civilian casualties in Afghanistan drop first time in 6 years
    February 19, 2013
    Civilian casualties in Afghanistan dipped for the first time in six years in 2012 while those caused by coalition forces continued their downward trend, the United Nations said Tuesday.

     
  7. Marshal

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    Do you really think other countries are on par with the level of shockingly awful USA?

    Who else has military bases worldwide. Who else flies airplanes over other peoples' territory. Who else sends missiles to kill people nd civillians in areas which have not recieved congressional war authorization? Who else is the leading killer of innocent men, women, and children in today's world? Who else has the largest civillian prison population on the planet? Who else kidnaps civillians from foreign countries and brings them to secret prisons worldwide? Who else kills their own citizens in foreign countries without traditional due process? Who else has a newly revised patent system that no longer protects inventors' rights but now awards the first corporation to steal and file the idea? Who else makes it so difficult to patent things that only corporations can do it? Who else makes regulation so difficult that only corporations can do it? Who else enforces a strict IRE against the common people but lets corporations exploit loopholes? Who else has loopholes so difficult to finagle that only corporations can do it? Who else?

    Who who who who?
     
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    I asked three questions and you typed all of that out in response yet didn't answer a single one. Why is that?
     
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    Anti-terrorism is a self-justifying endeavor. The act of war entails mass civilian casualties. It doesn't matter to a kid whether you intentionally killed his innocent father or did so through collateral damage: he's still going to hate your government and perhaps join a terrorist organization.

    If the US had stuck to its traditional foreign policy stance of non-interventionism none of this would be an issue.
     
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    In 2012 the US changed its civillian death reporting policy to require all military aged adults to be reported as combatants.
     
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    Interesting. This story has a different take on the UN report "UN: Drones killed more Afghan civilians in 2012":

    http://news.yahoo.com/un-drones-killed-more-afghan-civilians-2012-145931602.html

    Also, from the second half of 2012 forward, civilian deaths have been on the rise again. So much for "good news".

    http://news.yahoo.com/afghan-civilian-casualties-rose-2nd-half-2012-122555068.html

    The bottom line is that if there were no invasion and occupation of Afghanistan by western forces, there would be no civilian casualities from this so-called war. There is no justification for the on-going war crime known as the "War on Terror".
     
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    That would be interesting. You have links I assume?
     
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    to marshal and all :::::::::::::::

    here is a relative article which i just found.
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    New US drone attacks in Pakistan and Yemen
    By Patrick O’Connor
    4 January 2013
    Marking the first US drone attacks of 2013, the Obama administration ordered two separate missile bombardments in Pakistan and Yemen on Wednesday and Thursday.

    The latest attacks demonstrate that the drawdown of US-led occupying forces in Afghanistan will be accompanied by an expansion of illegal drone operations across the Middle East. At least 16 people were reported killed, all alleged Taliban and Al Qaeda fighters, though details of each incident are still emerging and Washington routinely covers up the killing of civilians in drone strikes.

    On Wednesday night, approximately 10:40 pm local time, Pakistani Taliban leader Maulvi Nazir, also known as Mullah Nazir, was among several people killed in South Waziristan, the tribal region bordering Afghanistan. Nazir is among the most prominent figures to have been assassinated in recent years, having led one of the four Taliban factions in the Waziristan region.

    Different reports that have emerged since the strike claim that Nazir was killed by at least two missiles fired either at a vehicle in which he was travelling near Wana, the largest town in South Waziristan, or at a house near Wana. Reports differ on how many other people were killed, with some sources suggesting eight or nine additional casualties.

    Unnamed Pakistani officials were cited confirming that Nazir’s senior deputies, Atta Ullah and Rafey Khan, were among the dead. These sources also claimed the others killed were Nazir’s Taliban associates. Thousands reportedly attended the funerals of the men, and markets and shops closed in those parts of South Waziristan that Nazir controlled.

    Yesterday, another two drone missiles struck North Waziristan, killing four more alleged Taliban militants, reportedly including two Uzbek nationals, as they were travelling in a car. Multiple sources report that a second round of drone missiles was fired when people nearby attempted to recover the bodies, though it is not known if more people were killed or injured as a result.

    On the same day as the atrocity in North Waziristan, three alleged members of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula were killed while travelling in a car in Redaa, in the southern Yemeni province of Al Bayda. Redaa is where a US drone strike killed 11 civilians, including three children, on September 2.

    Reuters cited a Yemeni government official as claiming that a Yemeni aircraft carried out the latest strike in Redaa, but local people who saw the US drone responsible contradicted him. Washington has ordered a series of drone attacks in Yemen in recent days, enjoying the full support of its stooge, President Mansour Al Hadi. (See “US drone strikes continue in Yemen” .)

    Pentagon Press Secretary George Little spoke with reporters off camera yesterday about the drone strike that killed Maulvi Nazir. Without explicitly acknowledging US responsibility, he declared: “If the reports are true, this would be a significant blow and would be very helpful, not just to the United States but also to our Pakistani partners and the Afghans… This is someone who had a great deal of blood on his hands.”

    President Barack Obama in fact bears responsibility for the continued bloodletting in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Yemen. While Washington is currently in a de facto alliance with Al Qaeda-connected militia groups fighting against the Syrian government, the so-called “war on terror” remains the pretext for its military operations across the Middle East.

    The New York Times reported in November that drone strikes are estimated to have killed at least 2,500 people. This is likely a significant underestimation.

    The British-based Bureau of Investigative Journalism (BIJ) has calculated that by August 2011, 2,347 people had been killed by drone attacks in Pakistan alone. The total included at least 392 civilians, 175 of them children. The Obama administration refuses to tally civilian deaths, arbitrarily labelling all males within a drone target area as “combatants” unless there is evidence proving otherwise.

    Maulvi Nazir headed one of the Pakistani Taliban factions that had reached an agreement with the Pakistani military, with both sides pledging that their forces would not target one another. Nazir was allied with Hafiz Gul Bahadur, leader of another militia in North Waziristan who had also signed a peace pact with the Pakistani military.

    Some Pakistani army commanders labelled the two figures “good Taliban.” Nazir funnelled fighters across the Afghan border to participate in operations against the US-NATO occupying forces and also allegedly sheltered members of various Al Qaeda-affiliated groups, while at the same time cooperating with the Pakistani military. He collaborated with the army’s 2009 offensive against rival Taliban factions, which the government in Islamabad launched under intense pressure from the Obama administration.

    Nazir had been targeted by rival Islamist militia leaders who have launched attacks against Pakistani military and government targets. In November, he narrowly survived a suicide bomb attack that was reportedly organised by the Tehrik-e-Taliban (TTP).

    The London Telegraph ’s Rob Crilly noted: “This could well herald a new time of instability as other militant factions try to vie for control… There is also a question of what this means for US-Pakistan relations. Mullah Nazir was very much an American target who, I suspect, Pakistan would have been happy to leave alone, so there is a question mark over what this means.”

    The Pakistani government, dependent on US military and financial aid, publicly opposes the drone strikes as a violation of the country’s sovereignty, while privately permitting Washington to proceed. It is unclear whether any government or military figures in Islamabad were consulted before Nazir’s assassination, but the Obama administration has made clear that irrespective of any considerations of international law, it claims the right to murder anyone, including American citizens, anywhere on the planet.
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    vlad
     
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    to marshall and all :::::::::::
    here is a very relavent article about the poossibility of world war.
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    West dedicated to destruction of human rights

    24.02.2013
    Contrary to their posturing, the west remains dedicated to the destruction of human rights. They have managed to totally skew even the meaning of the concept, much less practice what they preach.

    What they usually refer to as human rights: elections and voting, whereby you get to choose between a couple of the power elites' puppets. Such a privilege. Who do I want, puppet number one or puppet number two? For all the braggadocio about "elections" in Libya, that is exactly what happened there...and elsewhere.

    One need not mention freedom of the press, that's a joke with western corporate media, as well as their purported "freedom of speech."

    What constitutes REAL human rights is the right to live in dignity. The right to housing. The right to social mobility through free education. The right to free health care. The right to a job and recreation. The right to security in old age or in disability. Free or subsidized utilities. A network of social guarantees that leaves no one left behind.

    When the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact were dissolved, the only counter force against the Capitalist power elites was removed. At that very point, the war of the elites against human rights began in earnest. The years of worry from the threat of Socialist and Communist endeavors for those human rights and freedom from colonialism were set back.

    Their first big target was Yugoslavia. A thumb in the face of Russia.

    There, different national groups were living together with some measure of social and material security, and they tended to get along. There was a lot of intermingling and even intermarriage. But by destroying the economy, all went into a tailspin, thanks to sanctions and IMF destabilization.

    It was easy then to orchestrate conflicts and social unrest.

    The Western powers provided the most retrograde terrorist separatist elements with every advantage: money, organization, propaganda, arms, hired thugs, and the full might of the U.S. at their backs. Bin Laden and the mujahadeen from Afghanistan and other states infiltrated the country massively.

    The same thing happened in Libya and now Syria...importing terrorists for fun and for profit.

    Yugoslavia was built on the idea that Southern Slavs would not remain weak and divided peoples, fighting among themselves and easy prey to outside imperialist interests.

    After the Great Patriotic War, socialist Yugoslavia became a great viable nation and an economic success. It had one of the most vigorous growth rates: a good standard of living, free medical care and education, a guaranteed right to a job, one-month vacation with pay, a literacy rate of over 90 percent, and a life expectancy of 72 years. Yugoslavia also offered its multi-ethnic citizenry affordable public transportation, housing, and utilities, with a not-for-profit economy that was mostly publicly owned.

    The dismemberment and mutilation of Yugoslavia was then orchestrated by the United States and the other Western powers, against the one country in Eastern Europe that would not voluntarily overthrow what remained of its socialist system and install a free-market economic order.

    In fact, their efforts resulted in the transformation of the Yugoslav nation into a Third-World region, a cluster of weak right-wing principalities with drug and people trafficking, a mafia state and unbridled ethnic cleansing and terrorist acts in the heart of Europe. Human rights have eroded considerably, even where fascists and fundamentalist terrorists do not reign supreme.

    In Libya, before kindly western intervention, Muammar Khaddafi had turned the poorest country in the world into one of the richest in Africa. He provided Libyans with a high rate of literacy and a free education, and then paid for University grants overseas for those needing them. Ten per cent of Libyan students studied abroad, in Europe and the USA, paid by the state and with board and lodging also paid. A dictator educating his people?

    He gave each married couple $50,000 USD to settle down. He paid for half the first car, he provided interest-free bank loans. He provided free medical care and free housing. No one was ever homeless.

    He built the world's most advanced irrigation system, bringing water to most of Libya across the desert. It is the world's largest irrigation project with the largest underground network of pipes and aqueducts, supplying 6,500,000 cubic metres of fresh water daily. From being one of the driest countries on earth, the Libyan desert was made to bloom. He provided those who wish to be farmers with land, seeds, tools and instruction.

    Libya enjoyed the highest Human Development Index in Africa. He helped free Africans from the yoke of imperialism and colonialism. He provided Africans with satellites to free them from crippling payments to western corporations.

    He set up loans so that Africans would be freed from paying usury for the rest of eternity to foreign banks. He paid revenue from Libyan oil directly into the bank accounts of the Libyan people. All shared in the profits of Libyan oil, no longer going into pockets of multinationals.

    He set up a banking system that would eventually have freed all of Africa. The entire western charade has been about removing him from power because of his humanitarian and developmental projects in Africa and his plan to launch a gold-based currency, the Gold Dinar, which would have been too costly for selfish western financial interests whose only thought is to keep Africans poor, starving and robbed of their own natural resources.

    Now Libya is transformed into a third world hell hole, a hotbed of terrorism, where no one is safe, nor do they have any guarantees they will live the next day without being murdered, mutilated, or perhaps raped and robbed.

    In Syria, the rights any Syrian citizen enjoys include free health care; free education; subsidized bread, rice, sugar and fuel, as well as free scholarships abroad. As in Yugoslavia and Libya, different peoples got along very well. Now what do the terrorists offer the people? Absolutely nothing, with the exception of having their leaders pander to western interests so that the country can be robbed of its resources. Their extreme form of Islamic law, unlike the progressive society now, will regress all rights, particularly for women. Instead of a diverse society, it will be a theocratic hell on Earth, just like Libya.

    U.S. presidents subverted, terrorized and bombed countries massively on the pretext of "human rights" - but never the real offenders who happen to be faithful client-state allies dedicated to helping Washington make the world safe for the Fortune 500.

    Sellouts and greedy malcontents stand ready to sell themselves and our rights for a price. Lies, false accusations and deceit are the modus operandi of the monster. Keep that in mind when these stars of the western media vomit their filth, whether they be called (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) Riot, Xavier Lerma, Yoani Sánchez or Mustafa the great "opposition leader."

    The monster of imperialism rears its ugly head not just in the major hotspots I highlighted, but also all throughout the Middle East, Africa, Asia and Latin America, seeking to overturn progressive victories for human rights.

    Slowly, our planet is being divested of human rights and turned into a giant camp where the one percent are served by the ninety-nine.

    We have heard much, as well, about austerity measures...which will pay for the errors and unbridled greed of that one percent. Job security, benefits and guarantees are being removed.

    It is time to respond and fight against this monster which has no qualms about extinguishing life on a massive scale and removing every vestige of human rights and dignity. Take note of the massive psychotic ferocity of their attacks, the "sending them back to the stone age" mentality of these war criminals. The anti-imperialist fight must begin in earnest.


    Lisa Karpova
    Pravda.Ru

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    vlad
     
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    hey marshall ::::::::::::
    here is some very good reading; something we should not ever forget. it is about the viet nam war.
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    "Kill Anything That Moves"

    Military Doctrine Began in Vietnam

    Monday, 18 February 2013 00:00 By Nick Turse, Metropolitan Books

    When did the United States adopt, in the contemporary age, military standards of condoning a "kill anything that moves" doctrine of warfare, along with a widespread use of torture?

    One need look no further than the Vietnam War, according to Nick Turse, an author and journalist who has documented the dark side of the US imposition of empire through armed intervention. In this assiduously documented book, Turse offers abundant evidence that My Lai was not an exception to military conduct, but rather, a not uncommon occurrence. In addition, the US slaughtered countless civilians in air and ground attacks without ever even seeing who was being killed.

    In addition, the reader will also discover that Dick Cheney's backing of torture had ample precedent during the Vietnam War.-MK

    Support Truthout's mission. Kill Anything That Moves (hardcover edition) is yours with a minimum donation to Truthout of $35 (which includes shipping and handling) or a monthly donation of $15.

    The following excerpt is the introduction to Kill Anything That Moves: The Real American War in Vietnam.

    "An Operation, Not an Aberration"

    On January 21, 1971, a Vietnam veteran named Charles McDuff
    wrote a letter to President Richard Nixon to voice his disgust with the
    American war in Southeast Asia. McDuff had witnessed multiple cases
    of Vietnamese civilians being abused and killed by American soldiers
    and their allies, and he had found the U.S. military justice system to be
    woefully ineffective in punishing wrongdoers. "Maybe your advisors
    have not clued you in," he told the president, "but the atrocities that
    were committed in My Lai are eclipsed by similar American actions
    throughout the country." His three-page handwritten missive concluded
    with an impassioned plea to Nixon to end American participation
    in the war.

    The White House forwarded the note to the Department of
    Defense for a reply, and within a few weeks Major General Franklin
    Davis Jr., the army's director of military personnel policies, wrote
    back to McDuff. It was "indeed unfortunate," said Davis, "that some
    incidents occur within combat zones." He then shifted the burden of
    responsibility for what had happened firmly back onto the veteran.
    "I presume," he wrote, "that you promptly reported such actions to
    the proper authorities." Other than a paragraph of information on how
    to contact the U.S. Army criminal investigators, the reply was only
    four sentences long and included a matter-of- fact reassurance: "The
    United States Army has never condoned wanton killing or disregard
    for human life."

    This was, and remains, the American military's official position.
    In many ways, it remains the popular understanding in the United
    States as a whole. Today, histories of the Vietnam War regularly discuss
    war crimes or civilian suffering only in the context of a single
    incident: the My Lai massacre cited by McDuff. Even as that one
    event has become the subject of numerous books and articles, all the
    other atrocities perpetrated by U.S. soldiers have essentially vanished
    from popular memory.

    The visceral horror of what happened at My Lai is undeniable. On
    the evening of March 15, 1968, members of the Americal Division's
    Charlie Company, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry, were briefed by their
    commanding officer, Captain Ernest Medina, on a planned operation
    the next day in an area they knew as "Pinkville." As unit member
    Harry Stanley recalled, Medina "ordered us to 'kill everything in the
    village.' " Infantryman Salvatore LaMartina remembered Medina's
    words only slightly differently: they were to "kill everything that
    breathed." What stuck in artillery forward observer James Flynn's
    mind was a question one of the other soldiers asked: "Are we supposed
    to kill women and children?" And Medina's reply: "Kill everything
    that moves."

    The next morning, the troops clambered aboard helicopters and
    were airlifted into what they thought would be a "hot LZ"— a landing
    zone where they'd be under hostile fire. As it happened, though,
    instead of finding Vietnamese adversaries spoiling for a fight, the
    Americans entering My Lai encountered only civilians: women, children,
    and old men. Many were still cooking their breakfast rice. Nevertheless,
    Medina's orders were followed to a T. Soldiers of Charlie
    Company killed. They killed everything. They killed everything that
    moved.

    Advancing in small squads, the men of the unit shot chickens as
    they scurried about, pigs as they bolted, and cows and water buffalo
    lowing among the thatch-roofed houses. They gunned down old
    men sitting in their homes and children as they ran for cover. They
    tossed grenades into homes without even bothering to look inside. An
    officer grabbed a woman by the hair and shot her point-blank with a
    pistol. A woman who came out of her home with a baby in her arms
    was shot down on the spot. As the tiny child hit the ground, another
    GI opened up on the infant with his M-16 automatic rifle.
    Over four hours, members of Charlie Company methodically
    slaughtered more than five hundred unarmed victims, killing some
    in ones and twos, others in small groups, and collecting many more
    in a drainage ditch that would become an infamous killing ground.
    They faced no opposition. They even took a quiet break to eat lunch
    in the midst of the carnage. Along the way, they also raped women
    and young girls, mutilated the dead, systematically burned homes,
    and fouled the area's drinking water.

    There were scores of witnesses on the ground and still more overhead,
    American officers and helicopter crewmen perfectly capable of
    seeing the growing piles of civilian bodies. Yet when the military
    released the first news of the assault, it was portrayed as a victory over
    a formidable enemy force, a legitimate battle in which 128 enemy
    troops were killed without the loss of a single American life. In a
    routine congratulatory telegram, General William Westmoreland, the
    commander of U.S. forces in Vietnam, lauded the "heavy blows"
    inflicted on the enemy. His protégé, the commander of the Americal
    Division, added a special note praising Charlie Company's "aggressiveness."

    Despite communiqués, radio reports, and English-language
    accounts released by the Vietnamese revolutionary forces, the My
    Lai massacre would remain, to the outside world, an American victory
    for more than a year. And the truth might have remained hidden
    forever if not for the perseverance of a single Vietnam veteran
    named Ron Ridenhour. The twenty-two-year-old Ridenhour had not
    been among the hundred American troops at My Lai, though he had
    seen civilians murdered elsewhere in Vietnam; instead, he heard
    about the slaughter from other soldiers who had been in Pinkville
    that day. Unnerved, Ridenhour took the unprecedented step of carefully
    gathering testimony from multiple American eyewitnesses. Then,
    upon returning to the United States after his yearlong tour of duty,
    he committed himself to doing what ever was necessary to expose
    the incident to public scrutiny.

    Ridenhour's efforts were helped by the painstaking investigative
    reporting of Seymour Hersh, who published newspaper articles about
    the massacre; by the appearance in Life magazine of grisly full-color
    images that army photographer Ron Haeberle captured in My Lai as
    the slaughter was unfolding; and by a confessional interview that a
    soldier from Charlie Company gave to CBS News. The Pentagon, for
    its part, consistently fought to minimize what had happened, claiming
    that reports by Vietnamese survivors were wildly exaggerated. At
    the same time, the military focused its attention on the lowest ranking
    officer who could conceivably shoulder the blame for such a
    nightmare: Charlie Company's Lieutenant William Calley.

    An army inquiry into the killings eventually determined that
    thirty individuals were involved in criminal misconduct during the
    massacre or its cover-up. Twenty-eight of them were officers, including
    two generals, and the inquiry concluded they had committed a
    total of 224 serious offenses. But only Calley was ever convicted of
    any wrongdoing. He was sentenced to life in prison for the premeditated
    murder of twenty-two civilians, but President Nixon freed him
    from prison and allowed him to remain under house arrest. He was
    eventually paroled after serving just forty months, most of it in the
    comfort of his own quarters.

    The public response generally followed the official one. Twenty five years later, Ridenhour would sum it up this way. At the end of it, if you ask people what happened at My Lai, they would say: "Oh yeah, isn't that where Lieutenant Calley went crazy
    and killed all those people?" No, that was not what happened. Lieutenant
    Calley was one of the people who went crazy and killed a lot of
    people at My Lai, but this was an operation, not an aberration.

    Looking back, it's clear that the real aberration was the unprecedented
    and unparalleled investigation and exposure of My Lai. No
    other American atrocity committed during the war— and there were
    so many— was ever afforded anything approaching the same attention.
    Most, of course, weren't photographed, and many were not
    documented in any way. The great majority were never known outside
    the offending unit, and most investigations that did result were
    closed, quashed, or abandoned. Even on the rare occasions when the
    allegations were seriously investigated within the military, the reports
    were soon buried in classified files without ever seeing the light of
    day. Whistle-blowers within the ranks or recently out of the army
    were threatened, intimidated, smeared, or— if they were lucky—
    simply marginalized and ignored.

    Until the My Lai revelations became front-page news, atrocity
    stories were routinely disregarded by American journalists or excised
    by stateside editors. The fate of civilians in rural South Vietnam did
    not merit much examination; even the articles that did mention the
    killing of noncombatants generally did so merely in passing, without
    any indication that the acts described might be war crimes. Vietnamese revolutionary sources, for their part, detailed hundreds of massacres and large-scale operations that resulted in thousands of civilian deaths, but those reports were dismissed out of hand as communist propaganda.

    And then, in a stunning reversal, almost immediately after the
    exposure of the My Lai massacre, war crime allegations became old
    hat— so commonplace as to be barely worth mentioning or looking
    into. In leaflets, pamphlets, small-press books, and "underground"
    newspapers, the growing American antiwar movement repeatedly
    pointed out that U.S. troops were committing atrocities on a regular
    basis. But what had been previously brushed aside as propaganda
    and leftist kookery suddenly started to be disregarded as yawn-worthy
    common knowledge, with little but the My Lai massacre in between.

    Such impulses only grew stronger in the years of the "culture wars,"
    when the Republican Party and an emboldened right wing rose to
    power. Until Ronald Reagan's presidency, the Vietnam War was generally
    seen as an American defeat, but even before taking office Reagan
    began rebranding the conflict as "a noble cause." In the same
    spirit, scholars and veterans began, with significant success, to recast
    the war in rosier terms. Even in the early years of the twenty-first
    century, as newspapers and magazines published exposés of long hidden
    U.S. atrocities, apologist historians continued to ignore much
    of the evidence, portraying American war crimes as no more than
    isolated incidents.

    But the stunning scale of civilian suffering in Vietnam is far
    beyond anything that can be explained as merely the work of some
    "bad apples," however numerous. Murder, torture, rape, abuse, forced
    displacement, home burnings, specious arrests, imprisonment without
    due process — such occurrences were virtually a daily fact of life
    throughout the years of the American presence in Vietnam. And as
    Ridenhour put it, they were no aberration. Rather, they were the
    inevitable outcome of deliberate policies, dictated at the highest levels
    of the military.

    The first official American combat troops arrived in Vietnam in
    1965, but the roots of the conflict go back many decades earlier. In
    the nineteenth century, France expanded its colonial empire by taking
    control of Vietnam as well as neighboring Cambodia and Laos,
    rechristening the entire region as French Indochina. French rubber
    production in Vietnam yielded such riches for the colonizers that
    the latex oozing from rubber trees became known as "white gold."

    The ill-paid Vietnamese workers, laboring on the plantations in
    harsh conditions, called it by a different name: "white blood."

    By the early twentieth century, anger at the French had developed
    into a nationalist movement for independence. Its leaders found
    inspiration in communism, specifically the example of Russian Bolshevism
    and Lenin's call for national revolutions in the colonial
    world. During World War II, when Vietnam was occupied by the
    imperial Japanese, the country's main anti-colonial organization—
    officially called the League for the Independence of Vietnam, but far
    better known as the Viet Minh— launched a guerrilla war against
    the Japanese forces and the French administrators running the country.
    Under the leadership of the charismatic Ho Chi Minh, the Vietnamese guerrillas aided the American war effort. In return they received arms, training, and support from the U.S. Office of Strategic Services, a forerunner of the Central Intelligence Agency.

    In 1945, with the Japanese defeated, Ho proclaimed Vietnam's
    Independence, using the words of the U.S. Declaration of Independence
    as his template. "All men are created equal," he told a crowd of
    half a million Vietnamese in Hanoi. "The Creator has given us certain
    inviolable rights: the right to life, the right to be free, and the
    right to achieve happiness." As a young man Ho had spent some years
    living in the West, reportedly including stretches in Boston and New
    York City, and he hoped to obtain American support for his vision of
    a free Vietnam. In the aftermath of World War II, however, the
    United States was focused on rebuilding and strengthening a devastated
    Europe, as the Cold War increasingly gripped the continent.

    The Americans saw France as a strong ally against any Soviet designs
    on Western Europe and thus had little interest in sanctioning a
    communist-led independence movement in a former French colony.
    Instead, U.S. ships helped transport French troops to Vietnam, and
    the administration of President Harry Truman threw its support
    behind a French reconquest of Indochina.

    Soon, the United States was dispatching equipment and even
    military advisers to Vietnam. By 1953, it was shouldering nearly 80
    percent of the bill for an ever more bitter war against the Viet Minh.
    The conflict progressed from guerrilla warfare to a conventional military
    campaign, and in 1954 a Gallic garrison at the well-fortified
    base of Dien Bien Phu was pounded into surrender by Viet Minh
    forces under General Vo Nguyen Giap. The French had had enough.
    At an international peace conference in Geneva, they agreed to a temporary
    separation of Vietnam into two placeholder regions, the north
    and the south, which were to be rejoined as one nation following a
    reunification election in 1956.

    [[[ more later ]]]

    Nick Turse is a historian, essayist, investigative journalist, the associate editor of TomDispatch.com, and currently a fellow at Harvard University’s Radcliffe Institute. His latest book is The Case for Withdrawal from Afghanistan.
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    Until the My Lai revelations became front-page news, atrocity
    stories were routinely disregarded by American journalists or excised
    by stateside editors. The fate of civilians in rural South Vietnam did
    not merit much examination; even the articles that did mention the
    killing of noncombatants generally did so merely in passing, without
    any indication that the acts described might be war crimes. Vietnamese revolutionary sources, for their part, detailed hundreds of massacres and large-scale operations that resulted in thousands of civilian deaths, but those reports were dismissed out of hand as communist propaganda.

    And then, in a stunning reversal, almost immediately after the
    exposure of the My Lai massacre, war crime allegations became old
    hat— so commonplace as to be barely worth mentioning or looking
    into. In leaflets, pamphlets, small-press books, and "underground"
    newspapers, the growing American antiwar movement repeatedly
    pointed out that U.S. troops were committing atrocities on a regular
    basis. But what had been previously brushed aside as propaganda
    and leftist kookery suddenly started to be disregarded as yawn-worthy
    common knowledge, with little but the My Lai massacre in between.

    Such impulses only grew stronger in the years of the "culture wars,"
    when the Republican Party and an emboldened right wing rose to
    power. Until Ronald Reagan's presidency, the Vietnam War was generally
    seen as an American defeat, but even before taking office Reagan
    began rebranding the conflict as "a noble cause." In the same
    spirit, scholars and veterans began, with significant success, to recast
    the war in rosier terms. Even in the early years of the twenty-first
    century, as newspapers and magazines published exposés of long hidden
    U.S. atrocities, apologist historians continued to ignore much
    of the evidence, portraying American war crimes as no more than
    isolated incidents.

    But the stunning scale of civilian suffering in Vietnam is far
    beyond anything that can be explained as merely the work of some
    "bad apples," however numerous. Murder, torture, rape, abuse, forced
    displacement, home burnings, specious arrests, imprisonment without
    due process — such occurrences were virtually a daily fact of life
    throughout the years of the American presence in Vietnam. And as
    Ridenhour put it, they were no aberration. Rather, they were the
    inevitable outcome of deliberate policies, dictated at the highest levels
    of the military.

    The ill-paid Vietnamese workers, laboring on the plantations in
    harsh conditions, called it by a different name: "white blood."

    . The U.S. Information Service invented the
    moniker "Viet Cong"— that is, Vietnamese Communists—as a derogatory
    term that covered anyone fighting on the side of the NLF, though
    many of the guerrillas themselves were driven more by nationalism
    than by communist ideology. American soldiers, in turn, often shortened
    this label to "the Cong" or "VC," or, owing to the military's phonetic
    Alpha-Bravo-Charlie alphabet, to "Victor Charlie" or simply
    "Charlie."

    By 1968 the U.S. forces and their allies in the South were opposed
    by an estimated 50,000 North Vietnamese troops plus 60,000
    uniformed PLAF soldiers, while the revolutionaries' paramilitary
    forces—part-time, local guerrillas— likely reached into the hundreds
    of thousands. Americans often made hard-and-fast distinctions
    between the well-armed, green- or khaki-uniformed North Vietnamese troops with their fabric-covered, pressed-cardboard pith style helmets; the khaki-clad main force PLAF soldiers, with their floppy cloth "boonie hats"; and the lightly armed, "black pajama"–clad guerrillas (all of whom actually wore a wide variety of types and
    colors of clothing depending on the time and place). In reality,
    though, they were very hard to disentangle, since North Vietnamese
    troops reinforced PLAF units, "local" VC fought in tandem with
    "hard-core" professionalized PLAF troops, and part-time farmer fighters assisted uniformed North Vietnamese forces.

    The plethora of designations and the often hazy distinctions
    between them underscore the fact that the Americans never really
    grasped who the enemy was. On one hand, they claimed the VC had
    little popular support and held sway over villages only through terror
    tactics. On the other, American soldiers who were supposedly
    engaged in countering communist aggression to protect the South
    Vietnamese readily killed civilians because they assumed that most
    villagers either were in league with the enemy or were guerrillas
    themselves once the sun went down.

    What ever
    civilian casualty statistics the United States did tally were generally
    kept secret, and when released piecemeal they were invariably radical
    undercounts.

    Yet even the available flawed figures are startling, especially given
    that the total population of South Vietnam was only about 19 million
    people. Using fragmentary data and questionable extrapolations
    that, for instance, relied heavily on hospital data yet all but ignored
    the immense number of Vietnamese treated by the revolutionary
    forces (and also failed to take into account the many civilians killed
    by U.S. forces and claimed as enemies), one Department of Defense
    statistical analyst came up with a postwar estimate of 1.2 million
    civilian casualties, including 195,000 killed. In 1975, a U.S. Senate
    subcommittee on refugees and war victims offered an estimate of
    1.4 million civilian casualties in South Vietnam, including 415,000
    killed. Or take the figures proffered by the political scientist Guenter
    Lewy, the progenitor of a revisionist school of Vietnam War history
    that invariably shines the best possible light on the U.S. war effort.
    Even he posits that there were more than 1.1 million South Vietnamese
    civilian casualties, including almost 250,000 killed, as a result of
    the conflict.

    In recent years, careful surveys, analyses, and official estimates
    have consistently pointed toward a significantly higher number of
    civilian deaths. The most sophisticated analysis yet of wartime
    mortality in Vietnam, a 2008 study by researchers from Harvard
    Medical School and the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation
    at the University of Washington, suggested that a reasonable estimate
    might be 3.8 million violent war deaths, combatant and civilian. Given the limitations of the study's methodology, there are good reasons to believe that even this staggering figure may be an underestimate. Still, the findings lend credence to an official 1995 Vietnamese government estimate of more than 3 million deaths in total— including 2 million civilian deaths— for the years when the Americans were
    involved in the conflict.

    The sheer number of civilian war wounded, too, has long been a
    point of contention. The best numbers currently available, though,
    begin to give some sense of the suffering. A brief accounting shows
    8,000 to 16,000 South Vietnamese paraplegics; 30,000 to 60,000
    South Vietnamese left blind; and some 83,000 to 166,000 South Vietnamese amputees. As far as the total number of the civilian war wounded goes, Guenter Lewy approaches the question by using a ratio derived from South Vietnamese data on military casualties, which shows 2.65 soldiers seriously wounded for every one killed. Such a proportion is distinctly low when applied to the civilian population;
    still, even this multiplier, if applied to the Vietnamese government estimate of 2 million civilian dead, yields a figure of 5.3 million civilian wounded, for a total of 7.3 million Vietnamese civilian casualties overall. Notably, official South Vietnamese hospital records indicate that approximately one-third of those wounded were
    women and about one-quarter were children under thirteen years of age.

    What explains these staggering figures? Because the My Lai massacre
    has entered the popular American consciousness as an exceptional,
    one-of-a-kind event, the deaths of other civilians during the
    Vietnam War tend to be vaguely thought of as a matter of mistakes
    or (to use a phrase that would come into common use after the war)
    of "collateral damage." But as I came to see, the indiscriminate killing
    of South Vietnamese noncombatants— the endless slaughter that
    wiped out civilians day after day, month after month, year after year
    throughout the Vietnam War— was neither accidental nor unforeseeable.
    I stumbled upon the first clues to this hidden history almost by accident,
    in June 2001, when I was a graduate student researching posttraumatic
    stress disorder among Vietnam veterans. One afternoon, I
    was looking through documents at the U.S. National Archives when
    a friendly archivist asked me, "Could witnessing war crimes cause
    post-traumatic stress?" I had no idea at the time that the archives
    might have any records on Vietnam-era war crimes, so the prospect
    had never dawned on me. Within an hour or so, though, I held in my
    hands the yellowing records of the Vietnam War Crimes Working
    Group, a secret Pentagon task force that had been assembled after
    the My Lai massacre to ensure that the army would never again be
    caught off-guard by a major war crimes scandal.

    To call the records a "treasure trove" feels strange, given the nature
    of the material. But that's how the collection struck me then, box
    after box of criminal investigation reports and day-to-day paperwork
    long buried away and almost totally forgotten. There were some
    files as thick as a phonebook, with the most detailed and nightmarish
    descriptions; other files, paper-thin, hinting at terrible events
    that had received no follow-up attention; and just about everything
    in between. As I leafed through them that day, I knew one thing
    almost instantly: they documented a nightmare war that is essentially
    missing from our understanding of the Vietnam conflict.

    The War Crimes Working Group files included more than 300 allegations
    of massacres, murders, rapes, torture, assaults, mutilations, and other atrocities that were substantiated by army investigators. They detailed the deaths of 137 civilians in mass killings, and 78 smaller-scale attacks in which Vietnamese civilians were killed, wounded, and sexually assaulted. They identified 141 instances in which U.S. troops
    used fists, sticks, bats, water torture, and electrical torture on noncombatants. The files also contained 500 allegations that weren't proven at the time— like the murders of scores, perhaps hundreds, of Vietnamese civilians by the 101st Airborne Division's Tiger Force, which would be confirmed and made public only in 2003.

    In hundreds of incident summaries and sworn statements in the
    War Crimes Working Group files, veterans laid bare what had
    occurred in the backlands of rural Vietnam— the war that Americans
    back home didn't see nightly on their televisions or read about
    over morning coffee. A sergeant told investigators how he had put a
    bullet, point-blank, into the brain of an unarmed boy after gunning
    down the youngster's brother; an army ranger matter-of-factly
    described slicing the ears off a dead Vietnamese and said that he
    planned to continue mutilating corpses. Other files documented
    the killing of farmers in their fields and the rape of a child carried
    out by an interrogator at an army base. Reading case after case— like
    the incident in which a lieutenant "captured two unarmed and unidentified Vietnamese males, estimated ages 2– 3 and 7– 8 years . . . and
    killed them for no reason"— I began to get a sense of the ubiquity of
    atrocity during the American War.

    In the years that followed, with the War Crimes Working Group
    documents as an initial guide, I began to track down more information
    about little-known or never-revealed Vietnam War crimes. I
    located other investigation files at the National Archives, submitted
    requests under the Freedom of Information Act, interviewed generals
    and top civilian officials, and talked to former military war
    crimes investigators. I also spoke with more than one hundred American
    veterans across the country, both those who had witnessed
    atrocities and others who had personally committed terrible acts.
    From them I learned something of what it was like to be twenty years
    old, with few life experiences beyond adolescence in a small town or
    an inner-city neighborhood, and to be suddenly thrust into villages
    of thatch and bamboo homes that seemed ripped straight from the
    pages of National Geographic, the paddies around them such a vibrant
    green that they almost burned the eye. Veteran after veteran told me
    about days of shattering fatigue and the confusion of contradictory
    orders, about being placed in situations so alien and unnerving that
    even with their automatic rifles and grenades they felt scared walking
    through hamlets of unarmed women and children.

    Some of the veterans I tried to contact wanted nothing to do with
    my questions, almost instantaneously slamming down the phone
    receiver. But most were willing to speak to me, and many even seemed
    glad to talk to someone who had a sense of the true nature of the war.
    In homes from Maryland to California, across kitchen tables and in
    marathon four-hour telephone calls, scores of former soldiers and
    marines opened up about their experiences. Some had little remorse;
    an interrogator who'd tortured prisoners, for instance, told me that
    his actions were merely standard operating procedure. Another
    veteran, whispering so that his family wouldn't overhear, adamantly
    insisted that, though he'd been present at a massacre of civilians, he
    hadn't pulled the trigger, no matter what his fellow unit members
    said. Then there was the veteran who swore that he knew nothing
    about civilians being killed, only to later recount an incident in
    which someone in his unit shot an unarmed woman in the back.
    And yet another former GI ruefully recounted how, walking through
    a Vietnamese village, he had spun around when a local woman chattered
    angrily at him (probably complaining about the commotion
    that the troops were causing) and driven the butt of his rifle into her
    nose. He remembered walking away, laughing, as blood poured from
    the woman's face. Decades later, he could no longer imagine how his
    nineteen-year-old self had done such a thing, nor could I easily connect
    this jovial man to that angry adolescent with a brutal streak.

    My conversations with the veterans gave nuance to my under-
    standing of the war, bringing human emotion to the sometimes dry
    language of military records, and added context to investigation
    files that often focused on a single incident. These men also repeatedly
    showed me just how incomplete the archives I'd come upon
    really were, even though the files detailed hundreds of atrocity allegations.
    In one case, for instance, I called a veteran seeking more
    information about a sexual assault carried out by members of his
    unit, which I found mentioned in one of the files. He offered me
    more details about that particular incident but also said that it was
    no anomaly. Men from his unit had raped numerous other women as
    well, he told me. But neither those assaults nor the random shootings
    of farmers by his fellow soldiers had ever been formally investigated.

    Among the most poignant of the interviews I conducted was with
    Jamie Henry, a former army medic with whom I eventually forged a
    friendship. Henry was a whistle-blower in the Ron Ridenhour mold—
    the type of man that many want to be but few actually are, a courageous
    veteran who spent several years after his return to America
    trying to bring to light a series of atrocities committed by his unit.
    While many others had kept silent, Henry stepped forward and
    reported the crimes he'd seen, taking significant risks for what he
    believed was right. He talked to the U.S. Army Criminal Investigation
    Command (known as CID), he wrote a detailed article, he spoke
    out in public again and again. But the army left him to twist in the
    wind, a lone voice repeatedly recounting apparently uncorroborated
    tales of shocking violence, while most Americans paid little attention.
    Until I sought him out and showed him the documents I'd
    found, Henry had no idea that in the early 1970s military investigators
    had in fact tracked down and interviewed his fellow unit members,
    proving his allegations beyond any doubt — and that the army
    had then hidden away this information, never telling him or anyone
    else. When he looked over my stacks of photocopies, he was astounded.

    Over time, following leads from the veterans I'd spoken to and
    from other sources, I discovered additional long-forgotten court-martial
    records, investigation files, and related documents in assorted
    archives and sometimes in private homes across the country. Paging
    through one of these case files, I found myself virtually inhaling
    decades-old dust from half a world away. The year was 1970, and a
    small U.S. Army patrol had set up an ambush in the jungle near the
    Minh Thanh rubber plantation in Binh Long Province, north of Saigon.
    Almost immediately the soldiers heard chopping noises, then
    branches snapping and Vietnamese voices coming toward them.
    Next, a man broke through the brush— he was in uniform, they
    would later say, as was the entire group of Vietnamese following
    behind him. In an instant, the Americans sprang the ambush, setting
    off two Claymore mines— each sending seven hundred small
    steel pellets flying more than 150 feet in a lethal sixty-degree arc —
    and firing an M-60 machine gun. All but one of the Vietnamese in
    the clearing were killed instantly. The unit's radioman immediately
    got on his field telephone and called in ten "enemy KIA"— killed in
    action.

    Later, however, something didn't ring right at headquarters. Despite the claim of ten enemy dead, the Americans had no weapons to show for it. With the My Lai trials garnering headlines back in the United States, the commanding general of the 25th Infantry Division did something unusual: he asked the division's Office of the
    Inspector General, whose job it was to probe instances of alleged
    misconduct, to investigate. The next day, a lieutenant colonel and his
    team arrived at the site of the ambush, where they found the corpses
    of five men, three women, and two children scattered on the forest
    floor. None was wearing enemy uniforms, and civilian identification
    cards were found on the bodies. The closest thing to a weapon was a
    piece of paper with "a small drawing of a rifle and of an airplane."
    The soldiers who sprang the ambush claimed it was evidence that the
    dead were enemy fighters, but the lieutenant colonel noted that it
    looked like "something a child would do." Similarly, "the makings of
    booby traps" found on the bodies, and cited by the soldiers as evidence
    of hostile intent, turned out to be a harmless agricultural tool.

    As the American investigators photographed the corpses, it was apparent
    that the Vietnamese had been civilians carrying bags of bamboo
    shoots and a couple of handfuls of limes— regular people simply trying
    to eke out an existence in a war-ravaged landscape.

    The lime gatherers' deaths were typical of the kind of operation
    that repeatedly wiped out civilians during the Vietnam War. Most of
    the time, the noncombatants who died were not herded into a ditch
    and gunned down as at My Lai. Instead, the full range of the American
    arsenal— from M-16s and Claymore mines to grenades, bombs,
    mortars, rockets, napalm, and artillery shells— was unleashed on
    forested areas, villages, and homes where perfectly ordinary Vietnamese just happened to live and work.

    As the inspector general's report concluded in this particular
    incident, the "Vietnamese victims were innocent civilians loyal to
    the Republic of Vietnam." Yet, as so often happened, no disciplinary
    action of any type was taken against any member of the unit. In fact,
    their battalion commander stated that the team performed "exactly
    as he expected them to." The battalion's operations officer explained
    that the civilians had been in an "off-limits" or free-fire zone, one of
    many swaths of the country where everyone was assumed to be the
    enemy. Therefore, the soldiers had behaved in accordance with
    the U.S. military's directives on the use of lethal force.

    It made no difference that the lime gatherers happened to live there,
    as their ancestors undoubtedly had for decades, if not centuries,
    before them. It made no difference that, as the local province chief of
    the U.S.-allied South Vietnamese government told the army, "the
    civilians in the area were poor, uneducated and went wherever they
    could get food." The inspector general's report pointed out that there
    was no written documentation regarding the establishment of a free-fire zone in the area, noting with bureaucratic understatement that "doubt exists" that the program to warn Vietnamese civilians about off-limits areas was "either effective or thorough." But that, too, made no difference. As the final investigation report put it, the platoon
    had operated "within its orders which had been given and/or sanctioned by competent authority . . . The rules of engagement were not violated."

    Seeking to connect such formal military records with the actual
    experience of the ordinary Vietnamese people who had lived through
    these events, I made several trips to Vietnam, making my way to
    remote rural villages with an interpreter at my side. The jigsaw-puzzle
    pieces were not always easy to align. In the files of the War Crimes
    Working Group, for example, I located an exceptionally detailed
    investigation of a massacre of nearly twenty women and children by
    a U.S. Army unit in a tiny hamlet in Quang Nam Province on February
    8, 1968. It was clear that the ranking officer there had ordered his
    men to "kill anything that moves," and that some of the soldiers had
    obeyed. What was less than clear was exactly where "there" was.
    With only a general location to go by— fifteen miles west of an old
    port town known as Hoi An— we embarked on a shoe-leather search.
    Inquiries with locals led us to An Truong, a small hamlet with a
    monument to a 1968 massacre. But this particular mass killing took
    place on January 9, 1968, rather than in February, and was carried
    out by South Korean forces allied to the Americans rather than
    by U.S. soldiers themselves. It was not the place we had been looking
    for.

    After we explained the situation, one of the residents led us to
    another village not very far away. It, too, had a memorial— this one
    commemorating thirty-three locals who died in three separate massacres
    between 1967 and 1970. However, none of these massacres
    had taken place on February 8, 1968, either. After interviewing villagers
    about these atrocities, we asked if they knew of any other mass
    killings in the area. Yes, they said: not the next hamlet down the
    road but a little bit beyond it. So on we went. Daylight was rapidly
    fading when we arrived in that hamlet and found a monument that
    spelled out the basics of the grim story in spare terms: U.S. troops
    had killed dozens of Vietnamese there in 1968. Conversations with
    the farmers made it clear, though, that these Americans were marines,
    not army soldiers, and the massacre had taken place in August. Such
    is the nature of investigating war crimes in Vietnam. I'd thought that
    I was looking for a needle in a haystack; what I found was a veritable
    haystack of needles.

    In the United States, meanwhile, the situation in the archives was
    often frustratingly the opposite. At one point, a Vietnam veteran
    passed on to me a few pages of documents from an investigation into
    the killing of civilians by U.S. marines in a small village in the extreme
    north of South Vietnam. Those pages provided just enough information
    for me to file a Freedom of Information Act request for court-martial
    transcripts related to American crimes there. The military's
    response to my request was an all too common one: the documents
    were inexplicably missing. But the government file was not entirely
    empty. Hundreds of pages of trial transcripts, sworn testimony, supporting
    documents, and the like had vanished into thin air, but the
    military could offer me something in consolation: a copy of the
    protective jacket that was once wrapped around the documents. I
    declined.

    Indeed, an astonishing number of marine court-martial records
    of the era have apparently been destroyed or gone missing. Most air
    force and navy criminal investigation files that may have existed
    seem to have met the same fate. Even before this, the formal investigation
    records were an incomplete sample at best; as one veteran of
    the secret Pentagon task force told me, knowledge of most cases
    never left the battlefield. Still, the War Crimes Working Group files
    alone demonstrated that atrocities were committed by members of
    every infantry, cavalry, and airborne division, and every separate
    brigade that deployed without the rest of its division— that is, every
    major army unit in Vietnam.

    The scattered, fragmentary nature of the case files makes them
    essentially useless for gauging the precise number of war crimes committed
    by U.S. personnel in Vietnam. But the hundreds of reports
    that I gathered and the hundreds of witnesses that I interviewed in
    the United States and Southeast Asia made it clear that killings of
    civilians — whether cold-blooded slaughter like the massacre at My
    Lai or the routinely indifferent, wanton bloodshed like the lime gatherers'
    ambush in Binh Long — were widespread, routine, and directly
    attributable to U.S. command policies.

    And such massacres by soldiers and marines, my research showed,
    were themselves just a tiny part of the story. For every mass killing
    by ground troops that left piles of civilian corpses in a forest clearing
    or a drainage ditch, there were exponentially more victims killed by
    the everyday exercise of the American way of war from the air.
    Throughout South Vietnam, women and children were asphyxiated
    or crushed to death when their bunkers collapsed on them, burying
    them alive after direct hits from jets' 500-pound bombs or 1,900-
    pound shells launched from off-shore ships. Countless others, crazed
    with fear, bolted for safety when helicopters swooped toward their
    villages, only to have a door gunner cut them in half with bursts from
    an M-60 machine gun — and many others, who froze in place, suffered
    the same fate. There's only so much killing a squad, a platoon, or a
    company can do. Face-to-face atrocities were responsible for just a
    fraction of the millions of civilian casualties in South Vietnam.
    Matter-of-fact mass killing that dwarfed the slaughter at My Lai normally
    involved heavier firepower and command policies that allowed
    it to be unleashed with impunity.

    This piece was reprinted by Truthout with permission or license. It may not be reproduced in any form without permission or license from the source. Nick Turse
    Nick Turse is a historian, essayist, investigative journalist, the associate editor of TomDispatch.com, and currently a fellow at Harvard University’s Radcliffe Institute. His latest book is The Case for Withdrawal from Afghanistan.
     

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