Israel - the world's only racist state ?

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  1. Pgraphicx

    Pgraphicx New Member

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    Not even close to being true. The bulk of the Middle East is racist. I had more trouble getting an entry visa to Saudia Arabia than any other country in the world. An by the way we do a pretty good job with race ourselves. We may not limit entry like I would like us to be we have plenty of racisam tro go around and both sides of the issue. Just pice a culture and some other culture will hate them.
     
  2. RiseAgainst

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    I don't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing care. Sure, it's probably a little racist. Too many muslims countires Christians and jews have been driven out of and slaughtered, the Muzzies can afford one state where their wittle feelings get hurt.

    (*)(*)(*)(*) Islam!!!!!
     
  3. diligent

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    Can anyone become a citiizen of Saudia Arabia if you are not a member of the misogynst Muslim faith?
     
  4. diligent

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    That does not apply to the vast majority of Iranians who are considered to be Persians, which is not the same as an Arab.
     
  5. Daggdag

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    Well Iran is a border nation it's part of arabia and persia. Just like Russians can either be asian or european.
     
  6. Pilate

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    I guess the Sikhs deserve an independent Punjab.
     
  7. diligent

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    You are getting confused with continents and location - Asia and Europe, as distinct from race ie Arabs and Persians.I repeat, the vast majority of Iranians are Persians which is NOT the same as an Arab.Here is a summary from willkepedia (please note the very small minority (2%) that are considered to be Arabs)


    'The Library of Congress estimates are as following: Persians (65%), Azerbaijanis (16%), Kurds (7%), Lurs (6%), Arabs (2%), Baluchi (2%), Turkmens (1%), Turkic tribal groups such as the Qashqai (1%), and non-Persian, non-Turkic groups such as Armenians, Assyrians and Georgians (less than 1%). According to it Persian is spoken as a mother tongue by at least 65% of the population and as a second language by a large proportion of the remaining 35%.[225"
     
  8. garyd

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    There is a Sikh seperatist movement.
    Jews are not a race.
     
  9. diligent

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    I tend to agree with your declarion that 'Jews are not a race'. As far as I am aware, they are considered to be part of the Semitic (race?) or descendents of the Semites.
     
  10. garyd

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    Actually there are only four or five races. Caucasian, Negroid, Mongoloid, and Australian Aborigine. Some would list Polynesian as a racial group others say Polynesian are an ethnic group within the Mongoloid group. I have bother to check and see if that particular argument ever ended. Semites, are an ethnic group within the Caucasian strain of humans.
     
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    I think the OP is correct. There is more bigotry in apartheid Israel than in any other country.

    Israeli Discrimination Against Non-Jews Is Carefully Codified in State of Israel's Laws

    UN body "appalled" by Israel’s racial segregation policies

    UN blasts Israeli marriage law

    More discrimination against Palestinians: Ignoring Court, Israeli Officials Bulldoze Palestinian Homes

    Discrimination Against Palestinian Arab Children in Israel’s Schools

    quote: Nearly one in four of Israel’s 1.6 million schoolchildren are educated in a public school system wholly separate from the majority. The children in this parallel school system are Israeli citizens of Palestinian Arab origin. Their schools are a world apart in quality from the public schools serving Israel’s majority Jewish population. Often overcrowded and understaffed, poorly built, badly maintained, or simply unavailable, schools for Palestinian Arab children offer fewer facilities and educational opportunities than are offered other Israeli children.

    Israeli anti-immigration riots hit African neighbourhood of Tel Aviv

    African asylum seekers injured in Tel Aviv race riots
    Violence breaks out after inflammatory speeches as protesters join politicians to demonstrate against rising Israeli immigration

    More racism: Ethopian Immigrants Forced to Take Controversial Birth Control

    Israelis gain large profits off the suffering of Africans:

    Israeli arms dealers join Lieberman's entourage to Africa
    Except for a few civilian enterprises, almost all Israeli activity in Africa is related to weapons exports.

    Christians Discriminated Against by Israel

    Member of Israeli Knesset Rips-Up New Testament
     
  12. montra

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    If I were a Jew I would know that hatred in the world today towards all Jews as well as hatred in the past. For centuries they were persecuted in Europe by "Christians". They were rounded up and cast out of entire countries. If I recall it was about 10 countries. They were rounde up and killed in mass, made to live in ghettos, made to wear pointed hats and badges. In fact, everything that had happened in Nazi Germany had already been done to them. The Holocaust was simply a natural climax of the presecution these people endured. Today they are persecuted in large part by Muslims. (shrug)

    If I were a Jew I could never forget these things and fight to the death to defend a country that is finally my own.

    What amazes me is that just south of the border we have the great nation of the Sudan who kills hundreds of thousands of Christians in a mass genocide. However, as Israel builds walls and boards ships to try and defend herself they get front page news and appear to be the only illegitimate nation on earth. What propoganda we have today.

    If I were a Jew I would tell the UN and rest of the Jew hating world to go take a flying leap. The UN and the international community have no credibility considering they turn their heads regarding genocide like the one in Darfur but busy themselves regarding how many areas Jews can populate in their own capital of Jerusalem.

    May they all burn in Hades.
     
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    Your argument might be more convincing if Jewish people themselves hadn't committed so many hateful acts.

    1) Israel offered to sell nuclear weapons to its ally, apartheid South Africa.

    quote: Secret South African documents reveal that Israel offered to sell nuclear warheads to the apartheid regime, providing the first official documentary evidence of the state's possession of nuclear weapons.

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    2) Voltaire held Jews in contempt. He said of them: "You have surpassed all nations in impertinent fables, in bad conduct and in barbarism. You deserve to be punished, for this is your destiny."

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    3) European peasants were often exploited by Jewish merchants and tax-farmers.

    quote: Flush with the money they provided, King Sigismund indulged his disordered passions and handed the country over to his Jewish and Demi-Jewish administrators for them to rule as they wished. As a result peasants everywhere groaned under the predations of the Jewish tax-farmers, who in turn lent money to the king at usurious rates of interest, thereby keeping him under their power as well. Rabbi Mendel Frank of Brest, according to Walsh, "was so influential that he was called the King’s Officer." As in England at the same time, the Polish nobles were torn between religious principle and economic interest. As in England, economic considerations won out and "the nobility in most cases held its protecting hand over the Jews to whom it was tied by the community of economic interests." In other words, the Polish oligarchs "were either in debt to the Jews, or employed them to squeeze taxes from them out of the peasants, naturally at a good profit for the tax-farmers, who took their toll from dairies, mills, distilleries, farms." The Jews "were indispensable to the easy-going magnate, who was wont to let his estates take care of themselves and wile away his time at the capital, at the court, in merry amusements, or at the tumultuous sessions of the national and provincial assemblies, where politics was looked upon as a form of entertainment rather than as a serious pursuit.

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    4) James Forrestal, the first United States Secretary of Defense, may have been assassinated by Israeli terrorists.

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    According to the London Times, Zionist terrorists planned to kill Ernest Bevin, the British Foreign Secretary.

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    5) Jewish Merchant David Sassoon controlled the vast opium trade in China. Millions were enslaved to the drug for profit.

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    6) The abortion movement has included many Jewish racists:

    "Above all, society must grasp the grim relationship between unwanted children and the violent rebellion of minority groups."- Lawrence Lader, co-founder of the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws. Breeding Ourselves to Death [New York: Ballantine Books, 1971], page 23.

    Lawrence Lader was not a marginal figure, he was one of the founders of NARAL!

    7) Harry Dexter White was one of America’s worst traitors.

    quote: *White was the real author of the Morgenthau plan to "turn Germany into a potato field," which when leaked, united non-Nazis with Nazis, stiffened resistance, and prolonged the war.

    *White used his position in the Treasury Department to develop a hostile U.S. policy toward Japan. The reason was to distract Japan from their plans to attack the Soviet Union and draw the U.S. into the war as an ally with the Soviet Union. White was the author of an extreme ultimatum that Japan could not comply with in the days just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor.

    *White delayed financial support mandated by law to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek's Nationalist Chinese government causing the triumph of Mao Tse-Tung's Communist Chinese government.

    *White was instrumental in handing over the Allied Military mark printing plates to the Soviets. This caused a $250,000,000 deficit in the occupational government budget paid out by the U.S. Treasury. This in effect amounted to the US taxpayer paying the salaries of Soviet occupation troops at a time when US/Soviet relations were deteriorating precisely because of the presence and behavior of Soviet occupation forces in Eastern Europe.

    LINK

    8 ) Israeli 'Blood Diamond' Magnate Lending Sparkle to Oscars

    9) Stalin's Jews

    We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish

    10) Rabbi Marc Lee Raphael on Jews in the Slave Trade

    11) Israeli ethnic cleansing, including the murder of children and the elderly: Survival of the Fittest? An Interview with Benny Morris

    12) More spies: Nathan Gregory Silvermaster
     
  14. garyd

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    What a load of horse crap Anansi. Spend much time a storm front do you?
     
  15. Anansi the Spider

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    The big problem is we constantly hear about the crimes committed against Jews, never about the crimes committed by Jews.

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    So you are saying you can't refute any statement I've made and you are only capable of name-calling? I got your message.

    And the supporters of apartheid Israel are the ones who belong over at Stormfront.
     
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    Well, I can assure you that the international community did not turn the other way with regards to the genocide in Darfur or the Sudan. Since 2005, the UN has maintained a mission in the Sudan. The African Union has joined in by also contributing a peacekeeping force. The governments of the United States, United Kingdom, Norway, Uganda, Kenya, Italy, Egypt, Netherlands along with the UN, EU, AU, the Intergovernmental Authority on Development (IGAD), and the Arab League, helped broker the Comprehensive Peace Agreement between the National People's Congress (NPC) and the Sudan People's Liberation Movement (SPLM). Hundreds, if not thousands of international non-governmental organizations have come to the assistance of Sudanese citizens in order to provide humanitarian aid, offer safekeeping from violence, and develop fundamental institutions for democratic governance. The international community was far from silent in its response to the tragic conditions in the Sudan. Where they failed, is in the nature of their actions, and this stems from an inability to work more closely with the citizens of the Sudan, allocate resources effectively, and establish a credible means of genocide prevention. The intentions of the international community were, more or less, good, but they were far from proper.

    Now, if you want to get into selective news coverage, then I would say that the mainstream media is obsessed with reporting the affairs of Israel and the Israeli-Arab conflict. In comparison, the problems of the Sudan get a mere handful of bites. This saddens me not only for obvious reasons, but for deeper, subtler ones. I work for a Sudan-focused transnational civil society group, and one of the most disappointing aspects about the news media's coverage of the Sudan is its ignorance towards the new wave of revolutionary fervor sweeping the country. While there was some initial reports by the mainstream media, readily available information regarding the ongoing non-violent protest efforts across the Sudan has remained inadequate. You hear virtually no reports about organizations such as Girifna, who are leading non-violent protest movements throughout the Sudan, or continued student uprisings on college campuses such as Red Sea University or the University of Khartoum. Unfortunately, I doubt we will see reports on these issues by CNN, FOX News, or even the New York Times. We will just have to rely upon foreign and independent sources.
     
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    Yes but this a Jew bashing thread so logic and common sense are banned from such decisions

    Oddly enough is some cases you can. But this thread is about hating Jews, so these examples become automatically 'fact non gratis'
     
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    More bulldust and anti-Israeli rubbish against a country that is the only true democratic country in the ME.The rest are still controlled and stultified by the mailed fist of theocratic, misogynst Muslim dimwits, who stilll live and behave as if they are still in the Dark Ages.
     
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    Anasi most of those stories contain bits and pieces of their own refutation. Most are simple minded hit pieces or quotes from Europe's antisemitic past rearing their still ugly heads to no good purpose, unless, of course, you consider supplying fodder to Jew phobes a good purpose which I, for one, do not.
     
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    Jews see themselves as a distinct race and people.

    They do what any normal people do to survive.

    They don't promote multiculturalism within their circles (although they certainly do outside).

    They discourage miscegenation,

    and they act and think with the prosperity of THEIR OWN PEOPLE in mind.

    Actually, they do what any normal, healthy people should do.

    Not like our pathetic West.
     
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    Jewish isn't a 'race'.

    Gay Arab teens in Palestine have to live in fear of being killed if they come out of the closet - they often flee to Israel because they feel safer there.

    Most Arab countries would not allow a Jew to immigrate there at all, and plenty of countries, such as Japan, including most in Europe, are very restrictive about foreign Immigration.

    So you know not what you talk about, you're just spreading more anti-Semitic propaganda that sounds like it was regurgitated straight from some Marxist college professor.
     
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    Rather than whine about how they're treated as 'second class', maybe they should count their blessings that Israel tolerates their presence all, when they're in no obligation to do so.

    If they feel discriminated nothing is stopping them from moving back to some Arab state, where a Jew would never be allowed at all, let alone given the privilege to whine about how 'bad' they've got it.
     
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    Let's try a substitution:

    Rather than black South Africans whine about how they're treated as 'second class', maybe they should count their blessings that apartheid South Africa tolerates their presence all, when they're in no obligation to do so.

    If they feel discriminated nothing is stopping them from moving back to some black African state, where a white would never be allowed at all, let alone given the privilege to whine about how 'bad' they've got it.

    Don't you see you are blaming the victims?
     
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    Apartheid Israel opposes America's most fundamental ideals. Why are American taxpayers forced to pay billions in welfare to Israel?

    Why Israel is not a democracy
     

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