Personhood laws already criminalizing miscarriages in the US.

http://feministing.com/2013/01/17/n...is-already-criminalizing-pregnancy-in-the-us/

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Ladies and Gentlement, I present to you the Republican/Conservative endgame: the state ownership of women and their bodies and their imprisonment for non-crimes.

 

Just so that we know you are not a Soros troll tell us what states these criminal acts were prosecuted in. Tells us how far along these pregnancies were where you think that the baby was not a person.

 

But hey thats small government!

 

Babies are clearly people at the moment of conception.

Regina McKnight: South Carolina
Laura Pemberton: Florida
Michelle Marie Greenup: Louisiana
Melissa Rowland: Utah

 

Your opinion is far from "Clear"....and in fact is heavily debated if only because a few people like yourself have decided to ignore reality.



But hey......take it to the courts, again.

Worked so well last time....didn't it.

 

They are 100% human. That makes them people. However, it does not in any way mean that abortion should be illegal.

Just because someone is a person, that does NOT give them the right to enslave another person to ensure their own survival.

 

What's the difference between a fetus and a fourteen your old kid?

 

There isn't one, from the stance of rights.

 

WTF?......human means person now?

When did this get decided.....hell, I am now killing a person every time I spit, sneeze, or make love.......I AM A MURDERER!

Damn....I'm too cute to be in prison.

 

"Feministing" wouldn't have an agenda....maybe put out lies, half truths, or dredge up the most absurd or bizarre cases possible and present them as "OMG, par for the course".... would they?

nah...never.

Bush's fault.

 

So if we are going to allow the mother to be unfettered and not bonded to slavery through the existence of the fetus, should she be allowed to unfetter herself from her 14 year old son?

 

Your body fluids do not have the potential to be a human being. A fertilized egg does.

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She already can. She can force her son to go up for adoption.

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Feel free to contest the actually information in the link.

 

Why? Just kill him. That 14 year old is enslaving her. She could easily put her unborn fetus up for adoption too.

Or is it OK to murder the fetus only because it is unborn?

Unfortunately, the fetus is created and killed because the woman who doesn't want to be enslaved to it was to irresponsible with her body to be enslaved by the necessity of birth control.

 

It is not okay to murder a fetus. The only legal methods of abortion should be those that remove the fetus intact and alive. If it cannot survive outside, even with medical assistance, then it is dying of natural causes. No one is killing it.

 

Oh - you mean like Dr. Gosnell - the abortion doctor we've been hearing about in another thread who now appears to represent ALL OB-GYNs and abortion doctors in the country according to the Right?

 

Then, it's murder or manslaughter.

 

You don't see any difference between a fetus and a 14-year-old son? Really?

 

Has the abortion industry adopted your guidelines?

 

Humans are a unique species. A two year old cannot survive outside the womb without support and medical assistance.

 

The 14 year old can fight back and perhaps choke the witch to death.

 

Not enough there. 413 cases of potential "oppressive" police state weirdness in the 32 years (1973-2005) since women were granted "the right" to exterminate their progeny, however, doesn't seem like too much of crisis....given the massive expansion in OVERALL nanny / police state oppression.

 

Not if the fetus is removed intact and alive. Unless you believe death from natural causes is murder.

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Nope, but I would support any law that would make them do so.

 

I do see the difference. Unfortunately, you cannot see the difference. Some would say it is easier to care for a fetus than a 14 year old boy.

Define enslavement and I can make a case that any mother could argue that she is enslaved by the fetus or the 14 year old.

 

They do see the difference, but as the argument they started with has failed desperation leads to silly and pathetic alternatives.

 

And it should receive support and medical assistance. Voluntarily.

It does not have the right to enslave another person against that person's will to protect its own survival.