Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

Those are not statistics but NUMBERS

Anyone can make up a number

A statistic is a verified count of incidents - give me statistics that are in print and reproducible and I will read them - I will not watch your "you tube" claptrap because my time is too precious to me to waste

 

Here is where the statistics came from:

DA supervised clinical trial date for
Anaplastic Astrocytama patients:
treated with radiation and chemotherapy:
5 of 54 (9%) cancer free
vs
Treated only with Antineoplastons:
5 of 20 patients (25%) cancer free.
SOURCE: Phase II study of Antineoplastons A10 & AS2-1 (ANP) In patients with newly diagnosed Anaplastic Astrocytoma: A Preliminary Report SR Buryzinski M.D. Ph. D. et al; Neural Oncology Vol 10, No. 5, 2008, pg 821

and here is the link:

http://neuro-oncology.oxfordjournals.org/content/10/5/759.full

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Oooooh! You got me all excited there for a minute! I thought I was finally going to see a REAL RESEARCH PAPER!!

But I might have known better because it is NOT a research paper but a paper presented at a meeting. It is a pilot study and a pretty poor one at that. Where is the evidence that it was a randomised trial? Were the patients hand picked? Were the prognosis confirmed independently?

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/tre...andbiologicaltreatment/antineoplaston-therapy

Now compare your study with this one

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0025619611638354?via=sd

Small studies mean very very little

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Oooooh! You got me all excited there for a minute! I thought I was finally going to see a REAL RESEARCH PAPER!!

But I might have known better because it is NOT a research paper but a paper presented at a meeting. It is a pilot study and a pretty poor one at that. Where is the evidence that it was a randomised trial? Were the patients hand picked? Were the prognosis confirmed independently?

http://www.cancer.org/treatment/treatmentsandsideeffects/complementaryandalternativemedicine/pharmacologicalandbiologicaltreatment/antineoplaston-therapy

Now compare your study with this one

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0025619611638354?via=sd

Small studies mean very very little

 

That last birdie was what I was going to bring up. Studies of 9 in 54 and 5 in 20 are too small to be of any statistical value at all.

 

A small study of even one case where it seems that cancer may have been cured by some substance would get many physicians rather excited!!!!

So a 250% percent improvement over the traditional and perhaps archaic treatments....WITH NO NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS.......doesn't get Bowerbird excited????????!!!!

Strange......would it get you excited if you had been the one who had made the possibly beneficial discovery?

 

So the FDA supervised clinical trial doesn't make those statistics?

What does?

 

Not to those five people who had essentially zero negative side effects from the treatment.....who had roughly a 250% higher rate of success than they would have had with a continuation of the traditional treatments!!!!

Oh....the fact that the obviously not exactly supportive FDA have approved third level testing for antineoplastons......means that apparently somebody over at the FDA must have been somewhat impressed even if Bowerbird and GaryD.......aren't!!!!!????

 

These were pre-phase I trials. We are on Phase III trials now. This has been going on since the 70's. Burzynski was on the Today show in the 90's. This isn't new news, it is suppressed news!

Can someone tell me why we are having 25 million dollar phase III FDA trials ran, if their is nothing here?

Phase III being the final phase before FDA approval. Oh and BTW, phase III trials only began when congress passed a law that stripped Burzynski of his patent rights to anti-neoplastins.

 

Great minds think alike I see.

Of course what you will never get any of these people to discuss is what the FDA and NCI did, and Burzynski documented in sabotaging the Phase II trials.

 

Its rather obvious pimp. While the Australian medical professional spends her precious time yammering on a political forum about US gun control she has no precious time to watch a simple medical related documentary. As bad a picture as the documentary paints for US medicine I am glad I need not seek medical assistance down under. There just aren't enough magazines I find interesting to sit through that hell.

 

I find the medical professionals to be the most indoctrinated when it comes to accepting this information.

It seems like they are personally offended by the idea.

 

Oh....Bowerbird....just in case you couldn't find the actual statistics they were at ET-17!!!!???!!!????

 

They are of course doing the study so that they have proof that you are wrong. The Brits have also done a study on this crap and come up with cure rates that are about the same as your likelihood of spontaneous remission. By the way the difference between the two studies is also negligible and I'm ot taking bryzinskis word on anything.

 

and a corporation is in business to profit, nit do what's right

so anything that looks like could be a cure, would be tabled for things that make more money

the exception would be government run research projects that would be released open source

 

Just watch the flood of cancer treatment commercials that didn't exist just 10 years ago for proof that cancer is big business!

 

LMAO @ the idea that you do a 25 million dollar phase III FDA study to prove something doesn't work.

You hang your head in shame, and leave this thread right now!

 

Dude are you that stupid? We poor tons of money down ratholes trying to find a cure for this that or the other, most of the time we discover that the latest promising cure is a dud. The test will show whether or not it works. The likely right now is that it won't.

 

Thats nice, why don't you explain why it took 40 years for pahse III FDA trials then?

I mean we just throw money away on this, so why was a documentary made to show a 40 year effort to get anti-neoplastins to the market?

 

Bedcause no one outside of the Texas Quack figured they were all that promising.

 

Was'nt there a time when most quacks that thought a man could build a flying machine were from North Carolina?
Yes, not a perfect analogy by far but cut me some slack. You get the idea.

 

See anyone with intelligence, notice the labeling and lack of substance in the post.

Shill!!

 

I've read your post six ways to Sunday and I think I've been insulted in every one
Twould be OK either way. You brought to my knowledge Burzynski and the concept of the Fawksien mask. I call that more than a fair deal.

 

I remember the seventies, when carrot juice was the cancer cure of the day. I watched a friend slip away while consuming gallons of it.

 

Really? I was only in my teens but I could have given you better info than that. Sorry about your friend. Truly.

 

Then it was vitamin C

Paw paw (the leaves not the fruit)

concoctions claiming to lower the "electrical levels" of the blood

and some unbelievable claptrap mostly detailed here
http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/cancer.html

About the only thing that has not been recommended is being buried up to the neck in goat dung and then diving for pennies