The plan is a world where everyone is very rich or very poor, with no middle class

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  1. Blackrook

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    The plan is a world where everyone is either very rich or very poor, with no one in the middle class.

    And that is because what the ruling class fears, above all else, is a powerful middle class.

    A powerful middle class can't be controlled with welfare giveaways and government programs.

    A powerful middle class clings to quaint ideas, like gun ownership, belief in God, traditional values.

    A powerful middle class has strong marriages, with fathers and mothers raising their children without government interference.

    A powerful middle class earns its living honestly, by hard work and enterprise, not by buying favors from politicians.

    And the ruling class is afraid, and they want to destroy us, and make us all poor.

    Because the poor is too busy scraping by for just enough money to buy food and gas, and can't concern themselves with changing things.

    Because the poor can be made dependent on a government check, and then desperate not to lose it.

    Because the poor have unstable families, giving the government the leverage to move in and act as father and mother to the children.

    Because the poor lack the power to change inadequate police protection, broken down infrastructure, dysfunctional public schools.

    And there's one way to make sure we have as many poor people as possible, which is to allow unlimited immigration from poor countries to take away jobs formerly held by middle class Americans and drive down labor costs. making it harder for a man to support his family.

    Another way to make more people poor is to implement a high minimum wage that knocks out entry level jobs, thus preventing young people from getting on the ladder of success.

    Another way to make people poor is deliberately sabotage the economy with anti-business regulations that discourage businesses from creating new jobs.

    And we can see that in cities controlled by Democrats, we already have the situation where billionaires and millionaires live side-by-side with the poor, with the middle class forced out into the suburbs.

    But now, even the suburbs are failing. Homes are being foreclosed, businesses are shutting down, unemployment remains high, and more and more middle class people fall out of the labor force.

    Obama, who claims he is fighting for the middle class, is actually working to destroy it. And he knows exactly what he is doing. He gives away money to billionaires and millionaires, and the poor, but he gives nothing at all to the middle class except more misery and suffering.
     
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    I am willing to admit that there is a such thing as crazy homeless people who prefer it that way, and don't want help, I am not going to suggest that some people should be poor so that you can have your middle and rich class. The way I see it, you want to be half-greedy and demand a middle-class, and you go to hell, I don't pity you. If you want to be a Christian, then surrender to 'God' and stop demanding half-wealthiness.
     
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    I have no clue what you just said but I sense a hostile tone.
     
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    They want to be full rich, you want to be half-rich. You aren't any better than them. I don't pity you.
     
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    What gave you the impression that I give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) what you think?
     
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    That's part of being Christian.
     
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    So I have to give a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) what you think because I'm a Christian?

    I don't follow your screwed up logic.

    You're just trolling this thread.
     
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    No one seems to be discussing this aspect, but the high rates of immigration in the last 3 decades are a big part of the reason for the decline of the middle class. All these addition people result in more competition in entry levels jobs. This displaced the younger generation into white collar jobs, but there were just simply not enough jobs to go around. Young adults who formerly would have entered into construction, waitressing, even nurses, were all pressured into college by the declining wages in these other jobs. Immigration even directly affected highly educated jobs, such as science and engineering, as technology companies brought in hundreds of thousands of cheaper skilled workers on work visas, even as native-born engineers became unemployed in droves, many driven into other careers.

    An excess supply of labor, beyond that which the job market can provide, results in suppressed wages, which in turn results in an increase in inequality. It is not just in the job market, but also in the housing market. The same factors that drove wages down also drove housing prices up. Overcrowding resulted in a shortage of available land and housing space in many urban areas. California is an excellent example of this. The rising cost of living has driven many Californians into the surrounding states, putting a strain on the availability of jobs in these outlying areas.
     
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    Love your neighbour but love your enemies more.
     
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    Are you claiming to be my enemy?

    I wouldn't call you that.

    You're more of a nuisance.
     
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    I guess you don't have to love me as much as an enemy then.
     
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    Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
     
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    Because you started a thread on an internet site? Seems obvious to any sane, reasonable human being... Which is perhaps where things fell over for you...

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    This thread IS trolling.
     
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    You've got to love him either way - according to your lord.
     
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    Actually a population of very rich, very poor and a tiny middle (almost all merchants) class is the historical natural order.
     
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    Current Reaganomics/trickle down results in very rich and very poor. There's no way to blame it on anyone but conservatives.
     
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    Yes it is, and that's because the rich don't want a powerful middle class and do what they can to keep it down.

    Obama sees this is as policy. Under his regime, the middle class is disappearing as more and more families sink into poverty. He is doing this on purpose. He sees the middle class as the enemy, Republican voters, and wants to destroy it.
     
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    Actually, over the sweep of history, the rich have liked the middle class. The middle class - almost entirely merchants over most of history - took all the risks and made the life of the rich nicer.

    However, I do concur about Obama's malevolence against the middle class.
     
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    Big whoop. It also happens to be represent those periods where empires are in decline.

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    Turn the other cheek. Walk with him twain.
     
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    The very people who rule you are the very same people who wrote the book of laws that you call the bible................
     
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    Yet Abraham was the Bill Gates of his day with apparently his own band of elite special forces on call 24/7. Money isn't the problem. Your attitude is the problem. Solomon was rich beyond the dreams of avarice. If you truly believe in God then your question should be why has God permitted that man to make all that money? Why has God seen fit to bless the work of his hands and not of mine?
     
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    I was talking to blackrook.
     
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    "It also happens to be represent those periods where empires are in decline."

    Taxcutter says:
    It also happens to be represent those periods where empires were ascendant.
     

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