The Anonymous Proxy Rule and CISPA

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  1. repugnant

    repugnant Banned

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    Many people who are staffed here, do not have to worry about CISPA due to them living outside of the United States. Those of us in the United States however do. So we may be forced into all having to use anonymous proxies to evade CISPA or submit to the government tracking all the websites we visit (which many people have already voiced aren't comfortable with). Can exceptions be made if and when CISPA is signed into law in the United States?

    Many people have told me that there's nothing to worry about with CISPA, however, I have lots of concerns about it and this is why I myself am considering browsing the web under a proxy in the future.
     
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    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    This is interesting.
    For the time being, I would not recommend to use a proxy, but I will make sure this is being discussed in the staff area
    Thanks
     
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    What is CISPA?
     
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    As a prepper* I have all the bases covered for security and self sufficiency or are implementing measures to do so. However I am interested on becoming invisible electronically and am taking some rudimentary measures to do that, such as using fake names to determine where my information goes etc and using drop boxes prepaid cards etc etc. However I am not well versed in real internet security. Thanks for the heads up. I hope that the websites allow such things as anonymous proxies etc to combat tracking etc.

    (Below)...a good place to learn about prepping~

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Intelligence_Sharing_and_Protection_Act

    This hasn't been signed into law yet but it already passed through the House of Representatives. Basically, what this bill is saying is that the 4th Amendment doesn't apply online. So your privacy while on the Internet is virtually non existant and the US government plans to monitor everything people do on the net basically. Problem for me is that my e-mail address has my full name in it. When CISPA comes around though I think I'll likely dump every account I have with my full name on it.

    Anyways, I don't like the idea of my IP and the things I say and do being tracked by the government. This is why I think sites should not support CISPA by allowing people the right to their privacy and even helping people to attain that.
     
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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    CISPA is a typical liberal invention to silence those who do not agree with.Well-known lefts always force their utopias to folks, a lot of new Obama's laws to allegedly cyber security is in realty pushing of dictatorship in the US and preparation to the martial law.

    Look here:

    http://www.infowars.com/
     
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    I actually blame BOTH parties for CISPA. Mostly because it was a conservative and a liberal who created the bill. Aside from all that I really don't feel it necessary to babysit the American people while they go on the Internet. We don't need sites and corporations reporting back to the government what we do and say.

    Anyways getting back to the topic at hand, this issue is a legitimate privacy concern and I believe this forum should stand behind all of its users in keeping their privacy from the US Government or any other government sacred.
     
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    Ron Paul's Texas Straight Talk 4/23/12: CISPA is the New SOPA

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RrEL7emqfk

     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - dem cyberterrorists gonna bring dis country to it's knees, den we all gonna die...
    :omg:
    US intelligence chief: Cyberterror leading threat
    April 11, 2013 WASHINGTON — The top U.S. intelligence official says cyberterrorism is the leading worldwide threat to U.S. security.
     
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    It does make sense, to a degree. Surfing the web is sort of like visiting a bunch of shops in the mall.

    I don't believe that the government has any right to nose into places where privacy is assumed, like email (even though they already do that), but the internet in general is a very public place.

    That's one of the costs of having a truly free internet, I suppose. Privacy while browsing the internet implies that somebody has to provide that privacy.

    Why should, say, kmart.com provide anymore anonymity for its visitors than a physical Kmart?
     
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    Cispa is going to single handedly destroy the pre-paid smart phone market by making it illegal, or they are going to create the dominant cell phone providers on the market with this law!

    Hackers are your best friends.

    Hacked smart phones are everywhere!

    Just go to the guy that used to hack your X-box or Playstation!
     
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    pimptight wrote: I don't believe that the government has any right to nose into places where privacy is assumed, like email (even though they already do that)...
    :eekeyes:
    IRS: We can read emails without warrant
    4/10/13 - The Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has claimed that agents do not need warrants to read people's emails, text messages and other private electronic communications, according to internal agency documents.
    See also:

    IRS tracks your digital footprint
    4/10/2013 - The IRS has quietly upgraded its technology so tax collectors can track virtually everything people do online.
     
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    VPN (Virtual Private Network) vs Proxy


    Below are a couple links some may find interesting/informative. The first, simply addresses the difference between VPN and a Proxy server.


    http://www.bestvpnservice.com/blog/how-is-vpn-better-than-proxy/


    Secondly, below, speaks specifically to Virtual Private Network. If someone chooses to take their cyber-activity/privacy seriously, I suggest becoming knowledgeable of/acquainting yourself with VPN.


    http://lifehacker.com/5940565/why-you-should-start-using-a-vpn-and-how-to-choose-the-best-one-for-your-needs



    **Disclaimer** This is intended as information only. I am not advocating something nefarious, in an attempt to circumvent PF's policies, or the policies of any other site.
     
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    There are many firefox plugins which help to minimize your electonic footprint, I personally use Ghostery (blocks trackers), BetterPrivacy (blocks LSOs/Super Cookies), AdBlockerPlus, and some more. I also have a VPN which connects through a OpenVPN server in 9 different countries such as Romania and the Netherlands.
     
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    We can't protect the forum against the government. They have been going through proxies on facebook and other sites looking for leads to terrorists and threats against the POTUS.

    I don't have a problem with our government policing the internet. I think we could be a little more safe from the kooks, child molestors, serial killers, and those who are involved in moving drugs and weapons here.

    I am a conservative and certain things that some put down the liberal left for could be a bad thing. We have to be more open minded. That's the problem with Republicans and Democrats. That can't give up some things or push agendas to stop votes in the Senate and in Congress.

    I am tired of the partisan bickery over everything being a far left agenda. Geez.
     
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    I don't have anything to hide from the government, but the government already tracks internet usage it is just not official yet so the patriot act allows it until a more comprehensive law is passed through congress.

    A person with limited computer knowledge these days could track someones internet usage, so its best to be good and be on the governments side.
     
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    It’s a different but in a way a same world we live in today compared to when our country was founded and the constitution drafted. Different in that we have e mail, RFID tags, cameras that broadcast video so small and cheap they are everywhere. We have the IRS the CIA the NSA,DTF,DEA,ETCs, LOL(?) . Its all too easy for government, police, everyone right down to our nosey neighbors that the homeland insecurity goons will pay $, up to five thousand dollars to report suspected crime . The founding fathers did not have nor I suspect they wanted those devices and agencies to spy on their citizens.

    The world today is the same in that people have the same desires suspicions, ie ‘emotions’. We are the same people in the same manner that we have the same emotions etc as those that that settled our country had. What I am driving at is we need a new way to address crime that involves electronic snooping and eavesdropping, etc. Actually we need it politicians that have the ethics, moral and backbone that drafted our constitution and declaration of independence etc to write new guidelines and laws to address electronic crime etc. Those founding fathers had the fortitude to forgo their own wants etc and they instead PUT THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION FIRST. I am sure people of that caliber exist today and could do what our current lawmakers etc seem incapable, or more likely UNWILLING to do because they lack the core values that our founding fathers possessed. Even as an optimist I ain’t holding my breath waiting for men of greatness to emerge in politics.

    reva
     
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    Ah, a little more eroding of our civil liberties, I see. They love to sneak this crap through as quietly as they can while grabbing as much power as possible.

    Revolt. Do it now.

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    The founding fathers were a far cry from modern politicians, that's for sure. What we have today are much, much closer to what they and the other American colonists were rebelling against.
     

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