what gun control do you support?

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what measures do you support?

  1. mandatory gun registration

    37.9%
  2. pistol ban

    10.3%
  3. barrel shrouding ban

    14.9%
  4. pistol grip ban

    9.2%
  5. clip/mag max capacities (please explain)

    28.7%
  6. 3 day waiting period

    43.7%
  7. ban on automatic weapons

    34.5%
  8. ban on semi-automatic weapons

    16.1%
  9. total ban on firearms

    3.4%
  10. other

    54.0%
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  1. stjames1_53

    stjames1_53 Banned

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    the 2nd A has very little to do with hunting.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    these guys, right?
    [video=youtube;QxoHdUw32G8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxoHdUw32G8&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    [video=youtube;Y8i_WkETnAM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8i_WkETnAM&feature=player_embedded[/video]

    [video=youtube;sEiEo5eGZjc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=sEiEo5eGZjc[/video]

    got thousands of these..............you sure you wanna trust these guys? good luck with that
     
  3. Archie Goodwin

    Archie Goodwin New Member

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    Correct; it's about militia vs. standing army. Washington was none too keen on militias, saying, and I quote, it's "leaning on a broken staff." But the Pols in the Continental Congress were of different mind, fearing a standing army and military academy, which G Washington urged, strongly, might lead to control in the hands of the military, leading to a general taking over the joint.

    Seems those fears were unfounded, perhaps helped by a civilian being commander-in-chief. And thus G Washington seems to have been right. Have a standing army, and can the militia nonsense, which we have, making the 2A moot, if original intent is the measure, which it is not.

    Today, we have the Supremes ruling on it, within the context of the times.
     
  4. EggKiller

    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    If theres any truth to your statement you might consider joining the NRA. That's been exactly their position long before Washington ever politicized it.

    Infringing on the rights of lawful gun owners will not decrease criminal ownership of firearms nor will it lessen the crime or violence. If not status quo violence and crime will increase.
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    We were also advised to guard our Liberties closely, not surrender them to the government. that supercedes the Constitution
    Tyrants and dictatorships will always be around.
     
  6. Bluebird

    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    The link I posted is just fine,thank -you very much.
    The poster was questioning whether I was "making up" the I-Hop shootings here in Carson City-The link I posted proves I was not making it up-that it did in "FACT" happen, If You don't like the link-there are several more,but that won't change the fact that the poster was calling me a liar,which I'm not.
     
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    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    You seem predisposed to not wanting full information on any subject. Why am I not surprised?
     
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    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    Well,all I have to say to that is,then the NRA needs to get people in that will actually do the job,because the people in charge of the NRA are severely derelict in their duty.
    And here we go again on this Merry-Go-Round,if one is a lawful gun owner,you live peacefully within the laws that are already on the books anyway. Any new laws wouldn't effect that.There should be no reason for anyone to have the gun cocked & ready to shoot 24/7. If one lives in constant paranoia of someone coming to get them or their gun,than I would worry that that person could be our next mass murderer.That is IMP a very unstable individual & perhaps should not have a firearm anywhere near them.
     
  9. Archie Goodwin

    Archie Goodwin New Member

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    Advised by whom? Limbaugh? Some other AM radio jock?
     
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    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    That is not so,it is not like the I-Hop massacre only made local news,it was National news when it happened.Anybody that keeps themselves imformed knows Carson City is on the list of current massacres, my credibility on this should have never even been brought up.but whatever.
    Feeble try at condescending!
     
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    EggKiller Well-Known Member

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    You really have no comprehension on the facts do you. Its exactly law abiding citizens that are effected by these new laws. No one else.
    I think I'm done debating a cartoon intellect.
     
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    Bluebird Well-Known Member

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    And IMO you are very wrong on this.!
    And as it stands for the moment there are no new federal laws,and I would question a person's intellect when they go all paranoid assuming something & trying to be a clairvoyant. See ya MO-----
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    how idoitic...........no, by the Framers.........not much of a history buff, are you? That might exlain your lack of expertize with the Consitution. Having never read it for yourself, how do you expect to prevail in this debate about Constutitional issues if you have no idea about the subject?
     
  14. Archie Goodwin

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    Nah; I really like history. McCullough being among my favorites. So please fill any gaps for me, since I'd be real interested and grateful.

    Who said what and when'd they say it?

    Thanks in advance - ag
     
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    I am not sure if you are naive or just stupid.
     
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    “A government resting on the minority is an aristocracy, not a republic, and could not be safe with a numerical and physical force against it, without a standing army, an enslaved press and a disarmed populace.” – James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President

    “[It is a basic principle of a tyrant] to unarm his people of weapons, money, and all means whereby they resist his power.” – Sir Walter Raleigh(1554-1618)

    "He who is void of virtuous attachments in private life is, or very soon will be, void of all regard for his country. There is seldom an instance of a man guilty of betraying his country, who had not before lost the feeling of moral obligations in his private connections." Samuel Adams

    "I believe there are more instances of the abridgement of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." -James Madison

    "If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.” – Samuel Adams, 1776

    “We the People, are the Rightful Masters of both Congress & the Courts, not to Overthrow the Constitution, but to Overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” – Thomas Jefferson

    “Never trust a government that doesn’t trust its own citizens with guns.” -Thomas Jefferson

    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote" B. Franklin

    "Half a truth is often a great lie.” B Franklin

    "A Republic, madam, if you can hold on to it!"

    - Benjamin Franklin, responding to a lady in a crowd, who, at the close of the Constitutional Convention, called out, "Mr. Franklin! What kind of a government have you given us?!"
    - Sept. 17, 1787

    "Don't interfere with anything in the Constitution. That must be maintained, for it is the only safeguard of our liberties."

    - Abraham Lincoln

    "Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

    - William Pitt, Enlish Prime Minister - Nov. 18, 1783

    Jefferson and Franklin were both signers of the Declaration of Independence as well as the Original Constitution
     
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    Let's see, "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"". Now where does THAT come into your thinking??? The Militia was one clause and the "right of the people"" is another or did that go over your head??? And friend, I have over a dozen guns, are you going to be the one to come and try to take them away from me, if not, then who???
     
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    And I asked you some legitimate questions but you seem to have a problem answering them
     
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    Johnny, the "Cuba" statement was to show you that "Harsh Language" will get you no where with anybody that's out to hurt you, there or here. So what has stopped the killers most every time they have started??? MORE GUNS!!!! But that lesson seems to have went over your head.

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    Johnny, the "Cuba" statement was to show you that "Harsh Language" will get you no where with anybody that's out to hurt you, there or here. So what has stopped the killers most every time they have started??? MORE GUNS!!!! But that lesson seems to have went over your head.
     
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    No, I keep insisting that people that don't even know how weapons function have no business voting on or insisting on what they think will help the matter. That's like insisting that a Doctor operate on a persons leg when they have broken ribs. You know nothing about it so it's better to keep your mouth shut instead of looking like a fool. " Oh, that guy doesn't seem stable to me, confiscate his weapons". http://www.wkbw.com/news/local/Judg...-Finding-Error-by-State-Police-202620671.html. So don't sit there and tell me it will not happen on a mass scale if they ever get this garbage through. We do look at ways that will do the most good and it boils down to dropping the fools when they pull their weapon out, hence retired police in the schools WITH GUNS!!!! And as I keep saying, pay for it with the money we spend on school sports!!! What's the matter with most of you liberals, our children aren't worth the price of some silly games??
     
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    I don't support any of those measures.
     
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    You have NEVER bothered reading what the founding fathers had to say, have you??? ALL OF THEM SAID THE SAME THING!!! And just what do you think was meant when Jefferson said, ""The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. "" Arch, I often wonder what the teach in schools these days
     
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    How dictatorship of you saying "sit down & shut up". How dare you!! When 90% of our countries voters agree with my opinion,were all supposed to sit down & shut up & let the far right extremists come out of their bunkers with their paranoia in full display to dictate to us how it's going to be. Sorry, I couldn't care less how much you know about guns & ammo-that is not the issue-too many innocent people are senselessly getting killed -when is it going to be when we all say enough-according to you-NEVER,-according to 90% of the voters-as soon as possible. Of all the pompous,self-centered, egotistical, life is all about me,f***** a****. I don't care to have a conversation with you anymore-your on my ignore list---
     
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    I am neither.
     
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    You believe MORE guns is the answer; it really isn't.
     
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