Why do people want America to be non-white?

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  1. Archie Goodwin

    Archie Goodwin New Member

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    Hmmm? Wanting and doing are different. You do know that government grows at a more brisk pace under Republican control; yeah?

    Meanwhile, I don't give hoot about size, big or small. My only wish is the we fund stuff privately where it makes the most sense; and then fund stuff publicly where it makes the most sense. Size will then be what it is, which is irrelevant.

    Examples where we fund stuff now that would be retarded to fund individually are:

    Military
    Interstate Highway
    Advanced research (no product potential; merely knowing)
    Space exploration

    Things we fund privately which would be retarded to fund publically are ...

    Burgers
    Clothing
    Car you drive
    Etc, etc.

    So it's a what, and not how big is it deal. If smaller ruled the day, a 1" fence along our Southern border would be better than a 20' high fence.
     
  2. LeonCoDem

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    You do understand that communism has never existed outside of books and a few religious settlements, don't you?
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    You gotta love her, Super21... probably have smarter kids with you since her genes are better.
     
  3. Unifier

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    I would say this has more to do with the fact that the GOP isn't run by very many conservatives anymore. Which leaves the average conservative voter (like me) quite annoyed.
     
  4. LeonCoDem

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    I see it more like
    Democrats - better quality of life, more fair tax distribution, egalitarianism.
    Republicans - split between rich and poor, poor tax distribution, quality of life worse overall.

    Government is only as big as it needs to be. It cannot get smaller, Reagan knew this... pushed for small govt... and government grew larger under him.
     
  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    :roflol: That'll be the day!
     
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    Who is saying they want America to be non-white?

    I want America to be diverse. Diversity includes all colors.

    I disagree. They do not love this country as it is. They love what they think they can make it into.

    Diversity is the main reason the US is superior to every nation that has ever existed...including every "white" nation. Whatever we are doing is working. Why fix what isn't broken?
     
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    That has been my experience as well.

    Exceptions might exist, but I have not come across any yet.
     
  8. Archie Goodwin

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    Nah; they can spend with impunity, and blame it on tax-and-spend Dems, and the voters accept it on its face. So no accountability.

    Meanwhile, a Dem votes in favor of $1 in add'l spending, and the opposition in the next election says, That scoundrel voted to spend more of your tax Dollars buying votes from terrorists and illegals!! (Obviously that's overstated. But you get the idea. Call any Dem a spender, and it sticks. Folks accept it on its face.)

    So, Reps spend with impunity, while Dems get hives thinking they have to sign a new spending bill, which WILL bite them back next election cycle. And that's a fact, U. I can show you, with actual examples. But the GF needs dinner out ... again, so my time is limited. But if you're curious, let me know, and I'd be happy to offer some very telling info on it.
     
  9. Unifier

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    That's because you're being partisan. I was attempting to represent both parties as they actually stand without coloring it with any bias. That was the point of my previous post about caricatures.
     
  10. LeonCoDem

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    Unifier - I think you have problems on your horizon. The world is becoming more progressive. The countries in Europe that used austerity instead of stimulus are in big trouble. Conservatism worked well with no global economy and communications. Now we understand that health care must be provided without bankrupting families. We must go along with the planet. We are not a 3rd or 2nd world country yet we share lack of universal health care with Bolivia, Ecuador, Paraguay, Guyana, Surinam, all of Africa, Mongolia, the former Soviet satellite countries, and N. Korea. Yes... North Korea. Conservatism is pretty much on the way out unless you modify it. There's nothing wrong with being fiscally conservative.
     
  11. Durandal

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    Indeed. If only there were other conservative options, eh?
     
  12. Unifier

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    You're missing the point. The views of the majority of the GOP electorate are not being represented at the government level save for a few notable exceptions. Thus many of the things the GOP presently does can be filed under the category of "other" in terms of whose values they actually represent. It's not conservative. And, personally, I'm only a Republican because there isn't a more conservative party of any kind of significance. Had the Tea Party splintered off and done their own thing, I would have abandoned the GOP a few years ago.
     
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    Interesting. They cannot retreat to be more conservative. They cannot stay stagnant. And they cannot advance forward and closer to progressives. It's a K-T Boundary that's coming. If someone has a good thought on this new future, please write it.
     
  14. Archie Goodwin

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    Right, U. It's me not getting the point; and not you being played by Pols who know you'll buy-into -- at hello -- any time some heavy-spender Gopnik politico says "Dems are to blame; them out-of-control spenders are exactly what I'm there to fight!!!

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Jesus, U. Easy pal. I just got out of surgery and might pop a row of stitches.
     
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    One's race and culture shouldn't be used to exclude others.

    Because I have an understanding of the history of this country and I'm a decent human being.

    Actually it's not. A country is a piece of land defined by borders, a nation can be defined by a race or any number of things.

    Maybe you should get some education

    Because of people like you.

    LOL!! This is illogical at best and shows your opinions and beliefs are not based on reason or facts, but rather a superiority complex...a disorder.

    Nope. Just those who wish to come to America.

    As long as they are abide by our laws and pay taxes I don't care who comes here.

    How is that?

    Because there is nothing superior about having white skin. It was just sheer luck that you drew the "straw" you did.

    Your people? LOL :roll:

    So it was only good to let in immigrants when your descendants came to America? LOL

    JOOOS!! Of course you'd bring the Jews into this. Please tell me where they demand we follow their culture.

    Actually the fall of Rome doesn't have anything to do with the mixing of races. Rome's failure was that it expanded beyond its means and there was systemic failure in its institutions.

    Of course you don't.

    I prefer light complexion, but I'm not picky.

    Neither education, freedom, nor success are an exclusive trait of white culture. You should really do some research and look into history.

    LOL!! You say freedom is a characteristic of white culture, but then condemn the fact that we extended freedom to all citizens. You don't believe in freedom, you believe in applying selectively certain privileges which is fascism. It's not some Jewish conspiracy to force mixed diversity...it's just inevitable.

    People like you are a plague and hindrance on society and the natural progress of the human race.

    I'd love them no less since it's not what is on the outside that matters.

    Learning about other cultures doesn't mean one wants to annihilate his own. You sound like you fear any real education.

    I am trying to get my Italian down better before I start learning German.

    That's your opinion. I have my preferences, but I think women of different skin colors can be very beautiful.

    Being Arab doesn't make one a religious fanatic.

    Seriously? You're using a caricature as evidence? Really?
     
  16. Archie Goodwin

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    Or maybe this way, U: setting aside the GOP-apologist "government" is not doing what we want, how do you explain the skew ... and it's stark, and has been most our adult lives, better than 30 years. Dems, in fact, have smaller government and less spending, while Reps have bigger government and more spending. Fact, reputations on who the spenders are, notwithstanding.

    So any thoughts on why, if they're not playing you? I'm all ears.
     
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    And this will be to the detriment of the world. Not that we'll personally be here to see the entire thing unfold, but over the course of the next 100-200 years, we'll see the inevitable collapse of the western world under the unsustainable and ideological weight of progressivism.


    And what has stimulus done for America? The economy is worse now under Obama than it was when he took office. You can't keep blaming this on Bush.


    What people on the left don't realize is the thing that made America great to begin with was not going along with the rest of the world. It was using our own prudence and following our own path regardless of what the rest of the world was doing. It was that boldness to be different that set us apart. And now we've reached this ridiculous place where, as a nation, we no longer remember the things that got us where we are, and too many of us have become xenophilic, cynical toward our own culture, and have developed a borderline pathology about following European trends. Which will backfire in the long run. We broke off from Europe for a reason. We had a better plan. It would be a dire mistake to forget that.

    Health care does need to be addressed. I actually do agree with that. It's one of the few places I think my party has it wrong. Realistically, health care is about as much of a luxury as food and water. But that doesn't necessarily mean the Obamacare angle is going to work. In fact, it's going to create tons of problems (some of which I've already experienced the effects of personally). As much as I hate it when people condemn things without having an alternate solution, unfortunately, I don't have an alternate solution here. I'll be totally honest. But I don't think anybody has successfully proposed a workable solution yet. And in reality, this is something that needs to be discussed in a bipartisan manner with maturity if there is ever going to be any kind of real legitimate long-term solution.



    Unfortunately, this is correct. Conservatism is on the way out. And I fear it is simply just an inevitability of this stage of the Tytler cycle:

    We are currently somewhere in one of those phases in bold. Exactly which one is probably debatable. But as the cycle predicts, conservatism will not probably resurface as a legitimate force again for quite some time. Not until long after we're all dead. And once again the people have foolishly voted themselves back into bondage.
     
  18. Archie Goodwin

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    Or this take, U. Who cares? What good will it do? Say some Dem wants to put a spendy Rep to task in a debate, what'll come of it? Reps all of a sudden thinking, "I'm voting Dem for smaller govmint"? Nope. But maybe some Dems like me will be pissed. We like problems being fixed, and sent them there to do stuff, and not cut stuff back.

    In fact, if bigger government is my goal, I'd vote Rep. But I'm a Dem and would be certain they'd spend on stuff I do not like.

    Meanwhile, Gopniks might think, cool, less spending. But it's a Dem, so probably they're cutting defense and programs that teach kids to be responsible, or whatever.

    It's a no-go. Hell; you know Reps spend more, and yet you'll still say Reps are for smaller and less expensive government.

    So cut the crap. Spending is what it is. The question is: will they do what you want, policy wise? That's all that matter, since the spending nonsense is a red herring, in support of why it's okay to be anti-tax.

    For me, Dems do more stuff I like. That's why I vote for them. But I have no delusions, so there's that.
     
  19. Super21

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    The Congress is saying it by wanting an amnesty.

    Okay. Why?

    Race isnt a color only.


    America became a superpower before things were diverse. It's still majority white.

    That is what I think. Why do you want it diverse?
     
  20. Jazz

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    Good grief! He will come to Canada!! Not Toronto, mind you, but elsewhere in the country landscape it is bright white mostly.:smile:
     
  21. waltky

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    Yea...

    ... Granny says dey need to pass a law makin' America officially white...
    :grandma:
    ... an' English the official language.
    :wink:
     
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    They did?
    But now, in Israel, they want to keep their race pure and clean, no more mixed marriages. They wouldn't be copying the Nazis, would they??
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Jews would fit that shoe! They are very intelligent, for sure... maybe also quite clever. Look what they have established in Israel....
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    their magnificent court house.
     
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    Jazz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That proves the Jewish race is not only white, but also very smart. They try hard to teach the heads of state what is best for them and their sheeple at this time of transformation into the New World Order.
    Check out this illustrated website...

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    John Howard - Australia
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    and so on and so forth, tons more.

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    Hahaha...poor little
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    You may have to swim ahead of the pack or paddle with the flow. Why not join the crowd and enjoy yourself... life is rather short.

    :wink:
     
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    There's no reason to legalize the illegal aliens. Nothing is gained by doing so.
     

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