2nd child of Pa. couple, who seek prayer not doctors, dies; violates probation, no ch

I sincerely wish that that could happen...

LMAO!!!!!

 

Why would anyone hold the entire group responsible when none of them agree with their actions, I know I don't.

 

Why condemn all for the actions of a few?

 

Just a reminder to all the posters, this is the SECOND CHILD this couple has killed, they already were given all they they needed to know that prayer is not enough. Due to that fact I still consider the death of this Child a MURDER, play word games all you want, but the truth is the truth. I hope they pay for their crimes in prison, are killed there and then spend eterinty in HELL, yes, I know that is not the Christian thing to say but I know I am not alone, I am simply willing to say it out loud.

 

I can't really disagree with any of that, except that PA law wouldn't allow them to be prosecuted for murder:

http://law.onecle.com/pennsylvania/crimes-and-offenses/00.025.002.000.html

I don't see anything in that statute that would allow for a murder charge, unfortunately...

I wish they could, though...

 

Someone's right to anything ends where it infringes on the rights of another.

They cut off parts of people all the time with the thought that the harm caused by such is less than the benefits to be derived.

 

More than a little "suspect", to say the least. Poor kids.

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Hell, they might escape prosecution , altogether.

Good grief..why are they not already charged?

 

True story. A few years back we had a big drought in Georgia. So a bunch of folks, including our idiot governor, decided that the solution was to get a bunch of folks together to pray for rain. The weather forecast was for no rain for at least a week or two. So naturally, they prayed and we got no rain. No shock there. But when it did finally rain guess what they attributed the rain to? You got it. Delayed prayer effects. Apparently God was busy when they initially got together to pray.

 

I'm not a religious person, but if Jesus did in fact exist and was the son of God and that God exists and so on, I think that Jesus would probably not have had a problem with children receiving medical care.

 

And, see, that's not a big deal...

It is, however, a big deal when it affects the health of a child...

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I don't see how they could escape invol. manslaughter, along with a probation violation...

I expect they'll go to prison...

No idea why they haven't already been charged...

 

So, God answered their prayers in the past when medical research was developed? Did he create medicine for these parents or mankind as a whole? If he created it for mankind, I would hardly call that him answering "their prayers".

 

Clearly. However, thinking that you can control the weather through prayer is nutty.

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It takes a while to get an autopsy report.

 

True...lol

You're right...

Gonna need a cause of death for the correct charges to be applied...

 

Murder: depraved indifference to human life. Lock them up. If they ever get out, they should be irreversibly sterilized.

 

Unfortunately, murder wouldn't hold up legally, under PA law...

 

For those who are wondering how the law on this breaks down, the DA can choose to file murder charges, if they want. When you violate the terms of your parole, it is a crime. Since they violated the terms of a felony probation, the deaths would qualify as felony murder. The intent is not required with felony murder. The only requirement is that there be a death during the commission of a felony, on the part of the defendant.

 

Because, people are always complaining about gay people adopting, and this shows that it doesn't matter what the parent's sexual orientation is, some people are just bad parents.

 

Interesting...

Looking closer, I found that Pennsylvania has a very narrow definition of Perpetration of a Felony. It would have to be charged as Murder of the Third degree, in Pennsylvania. Weird, weird definitions on the books, there.

For the purposes of felony murder, neither manslaughter nor murder count as felonies.

That's bewildering.

 

And here people try to claim that American Christians aren't dangerous.

 

Perhaps God is just a fantasy that has uncounted human beings jeopardising the well-being of one another for the sake of their faith.

It didn't take a god for humans to be able to develop germ theory. The bible was certainly no great help in that. Wouldn't it be wild if the bible had actually revealed to our ancestors that diseases were generally caused by microscopic things? Goodness, what a boon that would have been for God's career, actually telling us something that a bunch of desert nomads couldn't have worked out for themselves!

 

I want to know why the hell they were allowed custody of their surviving kids after they killed the first one :\

Because PARENTAL RIGHTS YAY

 

It's the fundamentalists that can be dangerous and crazy.........

Those Christians who are not have the common sense and love their kids enuf to want to keep them healthy, so they take them to the dr when they get sick.... and for yearly check-ups.

 

What does that tell you? Common sense conflicts with religion.

It's not that those kook parents didn't love their children, I'm sure. It's that they let their faith overrule what you and I call common sense. In a universe like theirs where God is real and answers prayers, people will seriously pray rather than rely on science, and you end up with this kind of crap. They have a fundamental similarity to jihadists, in that their reality is strongly influenced by what they choose to believe in.

 

Time to change the law as clearly the child's Right to Life as a Person was violated based upon the actions of their parents that are the voluntary legal guardians of the child. While everyone has the right to their religious beliefs their actions based upon those religious beliefs that violate the Rights of another Person can and should be addressed under criminal law.

 

True regardless of what religion it relates to. "Fundamentalists" replace thinking with bigoted prejudice that harms others.