I have made no accusation, only you have you and continue to do so. Hateful because it is the way you wanted to perceive it because of your own deep hatred, bitterness and malice. If there is any stereotyping it is you, you have stereotype all gays are subject to discrimination and all straight are anti gay. Again it is you who have generalise both gays and none gays. You accept that the word 'gay' is use as a derogatory word and turn around to accuse me of generalization?? What is blatant is that your hatred and generalisation of both gays and none gays. Yes I admit that the word 'gay' is being misuse, reinterpreted and use as a derogatory word so now you need to admit your hatred and bitterness towards straight people is what bothering you. I have already made my point very clear and you have made yours clear as well and that is to denigrate gays and none gays with your stereotype attitude. There is nothing for me to be educated from you but you need to get more education. I don't care if you put me or all of us in your ignore list it is your right your easy way out not to be educated. I am very confident of my integrity, how about you?
In all sincerity, I suggest that you could do something about countering the damage done by the "whining, self-obsessed primadonnas", who overwhealmingly represent gay people in the public arena.
Good, you are now with what you claim your general stereotype gays who are confuse and angry and ignore is their easy way out, I guess you are now not a very gay person
Yeah, but only conditionally. Your prejudice is made clear in your poll. Yes, I am aware of what cherry picking is. Except maybe when those actions are your own. Great, not that I need your permission, but we do have our standards!
The gay people overwhelmingly represented in the public arena are the ones nobody notices because we're quietly going about our lives, not attempting to draw attention to ourselves. In all sincerity, I have no obligation to engage in a futile effort to undo other peoples' clung-to-with-a-deathgrip prejudices. If someone wants to make idiotic assumptions about gay people based on the actions of a few bad actors, there's not really much I can do to stop them from being idiotic. I can't control those people any more than I can control the gay ones who are being "whining, self-obsessed primadonnas" (as if there were no straight people who are just as annoying.
As stated earlier: So no, I don't expect anyone's tolerance. In point of fact, the responses to the thread largely confirm what I already knew - that people are largely uninterested in rethinking their prejudices. Let's have another look at another statement I made: Nor do I think anyone else has such obligations. Anyone here disagree with that? Anyone here think that they have to accept every opinion as reasonable, factual, logical, etc? Anyone here think that they should have to refrain from criticizing opinions and actions that they find reprehensible? Anyone here think they should have to tolerate being personally attacked? Does anyone here feel they have an obligation to address the substance of personal attacks by replying to those posts? Anyone feel obligated to continue engaging someone whose only apparent interest in a thread is to troll and make personal attacks? People certainly can hold an opinion that opposes homosexuality. I accept that no one has to agree with my opinions on the matter. I fully support anyone's right to think whatever they like and to speak accordingly. None of which obligates me to silence. None of which obligates me to tolerate others' intolerance. If you don't think I should be allowed to offer criticism of opinions I find intolerant, tough crumpets. I'm not going to be silenced. I will however continue to shut out people who think my tolerance should extend to actions that involve personal attacks, trolling, or just plain being a jerk.
Amazing...irony and hypocrisy in one line!... and another example of your intolerance. Somebody should take away your shovel!
Neither ironic nor hypocrisy. 1) Are you prepared to argue that people typically seek out opportunities to have their prejudices challenged and to rethink them? 2) Had the thread presented me with examples of people actually rethinking their prejudices, I would be prepared to rethink what I "know". Are we supposed to believe that you are prepared to rethink what you "know"? The personal attacks don't inspire to think so. 3) I didn't post the thread for confirmation of what I thought I already knew. I posted it as a response to bigots on the forum who regularly display their inability to think of gay people as individuals. Not hoping to persuade them, but as flypaper. It very much served that purpose. 4) Yes, I am intolerant of jerkish actions. Hardly news.
Some one needs a dictionary... 1) Are you prepared to argue that people typically seek out opportunities to have their prejudices challenged and to rethink them? 2) Had the thread presented me with examples of people actually rethinking their prejudices, I would be prepared to rethink what I "know". Are we supposed to believe that you are prepared to rethink what you "know"? The personal attacks don't inspire to think so. 3) I didn't post the thread for confirmation of what I thought I already knew. I posted it as a response to bigots on the forum who regularly display their inability to think of gay people as individuals. Not hoping to persuade them, but as flypaper. It very much served that purpose. 4) Yes, I am intolerant of jerkish actions. Hardly news.[/QUOTE]
Can you please triple repeat your claim please "because we're quietly going about our lives, not attempting to draw attention to ourselves" [video=youtube;l3XjSsqd1rM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3XjSsqd1rM[/video] You can always start by being honest to yourself.
Homosexuality is an outgrowth of defective olfactory bulbs and the sense of smell. This has been fairly well-known for decades, but the homosexual lobby won't accept the fact that theirs is an abnormality. Too bad nobody tries seriously to correct the actual defect instead of trying to ram the politically-correct socio-political crap associated with being "gay" down our throats (so to speak)....
I think the results of your poll says it all.... Usurping the word "gay" as cover for homosexuality hasn't worked. People, like me, think of good feelings and thoughts, not miserable, whiny, self-centered, attention grabbers .
Here is what I think of first : Weird and queer, the latter one in the true meaning of the word not the meaning appropriated by the homosexual community.
I'm starting to think the word "Attention Whore", should be the first thing to be associated with the word gay.
I must have some serious anti-gay prejudices simply because I am straight and plan to keep it that way. Allow me to keep my hetero tendencies and please don't imply that those tendencies mean that I am seriously prejudiced.
Non-sequitur. Nowhere have I said or implied that being straight and wanting to remain straight equates with having serious anti-gay prejudices. Never said or implied that you shouldn't. I haven't done any such thing. The inference that I have is completely mistaken.
all this is just so silly. thinking of lisping feminine men, and drag queens when hear the word gay is as innocent as thinking about blonde people when you hear swedish. it's a stereotype, but it's harmless. I'm not crying for people assuming i'm blonde even tho i'm a light brunette. And by the way, if the gays don't want such an image of themselves they really ought to reconsider how the do the gay pride marches. "if any of the above is the first thing that pops into you're head you have some serious anti-gay prejudice" what a load of (*)(*)(*)(*) really. That just reinforces my assumption that many gays are drama queens.